I'm building a 308 Winchester for F-T/R competition shooting. I have a Stiller TAC 30 action and a Bartlein #9 30" barrel. I'm still trying to decide on a stock. I like the Manners MCS-T4A, The Bell and Carlson adjustable Medalist, and the McRees Precision G5 folding rifle chassis. I'm trying to keep cost in check as much as possible but I want the absolute best precision I can get in this gun. I'm not sure if a chassis system is the best route for this type of shooting. I currently shoot off a bag.
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Re: Stock Options for F-T/R shooting
I don't know everything or even a lot about stocks; but I can share what I've come to conclude. The best stocks, like McMillan and Manners are very nice, but what you are paying for is the strength of the stock and some other niceties.
You do not need a $1000 stock to have a rifle that will shoot very well. The guy that built my rifles turned me on to HS Precision and I have also tried a couple of Bell & Carlsons. The stocks worked very well. The conclusion that I came to was that for a target gun that wasn't going to war, an HS Precision or Bell and Carlson works just fine.
As for the form of the stock, I do most of my .308 shooting from a prone position and prefer a vertical grip.
I've bought a few HS Precision stocks on the used market, in the form of pull offs. I don't think I've paid more than $275 for any of them. The Bell and Carlson stocks are pretty inexpensive new.
I don't know everything or even a lot about stocks; but I can share what I've come to conclude. The best stocks, like McMillan and Manners are very nice, but what you are paying for is the strength of the stock and some other niceties.
You do not need a $1000 stock to have a rifle that will shoot very well. The guy that built my rifles turned me on to HS Precision and I have also tried a couple of Bell & Carlsons. The stocks worked very well. The conclusion that I came to was that for a target gun that wasn't going to war, an HS Precision or Bell and Carlson works just fine.
As for the form of the stock, I do most of my .308 shooting from a prone position and prefer a vertical grip.
I've bought a few HS Precision stocks on the used market, in the form of pull offs. I don't think I've paid more than $275 for any of them. The Bell and Carlson stocks are pretty inexpensive new.
Re: Stock Options for F-T/R shooting
If you like wood look at
http://www.precisionriflesales.com/ftr_rifle_stock.html
It's kinda heavy about 4lbs after inlet is what they told me.
If you like wood look at
http://www.precisionriflesales.com/ftr_rifle_stock.html
It's kinda heavy about 4lbs after inlet is what they told me.
Re: Stock Options for F-T/R shooting
I would skip the BC adjustable stock. Expensive for what it is, I think.
If price is a serious point, the BC A3 (I think...the one that looks like a McMillan with flares on the forearm) is a great stock for $200-250. Very stiff, and with a skim-bedding job, will NOT be the platform's limiting factor on accuracy.
I would skip the BC adjustable stock. Expensive for what it is, I think.
If price is a serious point, the BC A3 (I think...the one that looks like a McMillan with flares on the forearm) is a great stock for $200-250. Very stiff, and with a skim-bedding job, will NOT be the platform's limiting factor on accuracy.
Re: Stock Options for F-T/R shooting
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ITyson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you like wood look at
http://www.precisionriflesales.com/ftr_rifle_stock.html
It's kinda heavy about 4lbs after inlet is what they told me. </div></div>
Beware of weight whatever stock is ordered. A barreled action built around a Tac 30 and a 30" HV contour barrel is about 10lbs. Add ~3lbs for the scope, rings, and scope base, and ~2lbs for a good T-TR bipod. To meet the 10kg/18.25lb weight limit of F-TR, the stock thus needs to be around 3lbs.
A lot of the lower end stocks like the B&C are heavy. The PR&T laminate stock above is probably one of the lighter ones, I'm not sure it'd hit 4lbs unless it had the Tubb adjustable buttplate. For F-TR, I'm not sure a buttplate is worth the weight (it adds about 1.5lbs). I have their F-Open stock and even with the buttplate it's significantly lighter than than my Manners T-5A.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ITyson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you like wood look at
http://www.precisionriflesales.com/ftr_rifle_stock.html
It's kinda heavy about 4lbs after inlet is what they told me. </div></div>
Beware of weight whatever stock is ordered. A barreled action built around a Tac 30 and a 30" HV contour barrel is about 10lbs. Add ~3lbs for the scope, rings, and scope base, and ~2lbs for a good T-TR bipod. To meet the 10kg/18.25lb weight limit of F-TR, the stock thus needs to be around 3lbs.
A lot of the lower end stocks like the B&C are heavy. The PR&T laminate stock above is probably one of the lighter ones, I'm not sure it'd hit 4lbs unless it had the Tubb adjustable buttplate. For F-TR, I'm not sure a buttplate is worth the weight (it adds about 1.5lbs). I have their F-Open stock and even with the buttplate it's significantly lighter than than my Manners T-5A.
Re: Stock Options for F-T/R shooting
Get one without a butt hook like a Manners T2 the 90% Carbon option would be worthwhile. The straight design without the butt hook rides the bag much better.
Get one without a butt hook like a Manners T2 the 90% Carbon option would be worthwhile. The straight design without the butt hook rides the bag much better.
Re: Stock Options for F-T/R shooting
Texarkanahunter, running a dedicated ft/r rifle with one of Ray Bowmans FT/R stocks, cannot say anything bad about it. Wait time basically non-existent, still have plenty of weight to spare on my current setup. Rem 700 s/a with 28 inch AMU contoured barrel, one of Alex Sitmans 3-way buttplate, Centershot bipod and NF 12-42x56, got about little over 1/2ib to spare. Run McMillan A3 on my practical field rifle.
Texarkanahunter, running a dedicated ft/r rifle with one of Ray Bowmans FT/R stocks, cannot say anything bad about it. Wait time basically non-existent, still have plenty of weight to spare on my current setup. Rem 700 s/a with 28 inch AMU contoured barrel, one of Alex Sitmans 3-way buttplate, Centershot bipod and NF 12-42x56, got about little over 1/2ib to spare. Run McMillan A3 on my practical field rifle.
Re: Stock Options for F-T/R shooting
I use the KRG W3C chassis:
http://www.kineticresearchgroup.com/products/w3c.php
I use the KRG W3C chassis:
http://www.kineticresearchgroup.com/products/w3c.php
Re: Stock Options for F-T/R shooting
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would skip the BC adjustable stock. Expensive for what it is, I think.
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On sale now at Stocky's. Have one due next Friday for $450 delivered. Compare that with $650 regular, over $800 for McMillan, Manners, and by the time outfitted the same, almost $1,000.
As for B&C's, some love them, some hate them, but as was stated earlier, the Stock won't be the limiting factor in this case. Want to save $$, check out the sale.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would skip the BC adjustable stock. Expensive for what it is, I think.
</div></div>
On sale now at Stocky's. Have one due next Friday for $450 delivered. Compare that with $650 regular, over $800 for McMillan, Manners, and by the time outfitted the same, almost $1,000.
As for B&C's, some love them, some hate them, but as was stated earlier, the Stock won't be the limiting factor in this case. Want to save $$, check out the sale.
Re: Stock Options for F-T/R shooting
The Mcrees will give you a fully adjustable stock AND a DBM capability.
Why would you be interested in the folding stock version of the Mcrees? None of the other stocks you listed are folders.
Added expense and weight for nothing.
The Mcrees will give you a fully adjustable stock AND a DBM capability.
Why would you be interested in the folding stock version of the Mcrees? None of the other stocks you listed are folders.
Added expense and weight for nothing.
