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LA Precision Rifles .260 Remington

GardDog

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About a year ago, I started down the path of having a new rifle built for my son. I had purchased one of the last bare Rem 700 actions that Brownell's carried and put it in the safe for future development. I had only shot factory rifles to this point and wanted to send this action off to be trued and have a custom barrel added. I initially bought a Schneider .308 barrel with the intention of having a .308 win built, but changed my focus to a 6.5 mm calibers. I finally decided on .260 Remington as my caliber and researched all of the variables. I had Phoenix Custom Rifles complete a bolt knob modification, bought a Tubb muzzle brake and I picked up a Krieger 1:8.5" twist barrel from 3rd Generation Shooting Supply. I contacted William Roscoe and we ironed out the details for his custom work. I boxed up the pieces and sat patiently waiting for my son's new rifle to get made. A couple weeks ago, Mr. Roscoe called me to answer a few fit & finish questions. He stated that the rifle was just about done and would ship out the following week. I got busy loading some test rounds using the 140 gr Amax and H4350 powder. A few days later the barreled action arrived. It looked fantastic and I couldn't wait to get some rounds fired through it. The delivery coincided with my custody weekend for my son and everything was lined up for me to surprise him with his new rifle. Bad luck struck and he ended up staying at his mom's house due to a stomach virus. I was soooo tempted to go shoot without him, but I used the weekend to get the action installed in my McRee's MP-MODSS, add the Jewel Trigger, Atlas V8 bipod, Tubb Speedlock firing pin, EGW 20 MOA base and US Optics Rings. I then mounted and bore sighted his new Bushnell Elite Tactical 6-24x50
scope.

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This weekend I picked Jr up and gave him the good news of the arrival of his new rifle. We spent yesterday afternoon in the cane field first getting the scope sighted in and then running the test loads to narrow down his best load. When I loaded the test rounds, I verified each load from my Chargemaster with my Sartorius scale. To further limit any variables, I loaded each charge weight with both WLR primers and Fed 210M primers.

I was doubtful of us even being able to get some shooting time in due to the bad weather. We just missed a thunderstorm that passed before our arrival, but the lower temperature sure was nice. It was 78 degrees when we arrived, but it quickly climbed back to our usual 98 degrees within an hour. The sighting in of the scope gave me my first impression of the Tubb T2K muzzle brake. There was little movement at all after the shot broke and getting back on target was very easy. The action was extremely smooth the rifle will easily be more accurate than the test loads demonstrated.

I ran .1 gr increments starting at 43.0 gr and ending at 43.4 gr of H4350. Here are the reults:

Winchester WLR Primers
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Fed 210M Primers
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I was really surprised at the difference in group size with the only variable being the primers. I will definitely be refining the load with the Federal primers.

The other noteworthy primer fact was that none of the loads using Federal 210M had blown primers. Of the 10 sight-in rounds with 43.0 gr of H4350 and WLR, 2 blew primers.

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On the test loads, all three of the 43.4 gr rounds with WLR had blown primers.

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None of the Fed 210M primers were blown, regardless of charge weight.

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The bottom line is that Jr has a fantastic new rifle and he couldn't be happier. Thank you Mr. Roscoe!!

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Re: LA Precision Rifles .260 Remington

Congrats on the new rifle, but oyu need to back that load down, even with the fed primers. You are getting significant over-pressure. The load doesn't sound like it should be all that hot, but rifles vary.

43.5gr of h4350 in my TRG-260 is warm, but not showing pressure signs like I see on your brass. What is your seating depth in relation to the lands?
 
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You are over pressured back down to 41.5 and work up. 42.0 shoots lights out in both the guns I have tried it in. That is with Lapua Brass, BR2 primers and 139gr Scenars 0.005" off the lands.
 
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Thanks for your input guys, but I've made a determination on my load. I will now get some chrono data and stretch it out to see how it reacts at longer range.
 
Re: LA Precision Rifles .260 Remington

congrats on the new stick, my 260 loads are close to yours, my best 100 yds loads sucks ass at 1000 and the worst 100 yds loads is the best at 1000, go figure that one out.
stay cool and good shooting.
 
Re: LA Precision Rifles .260 Remington

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beretta989</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Glad to see father son shooting. </div></div>

Without getting into an "ex-wife rant", I'll just say that him showing interest in shooting with me has made me very happy. He has always shot very well and takes instruction to heart. He was showing an interest in joining the military as a career path, but his scoliosis surgery last year voided that. He did sign up for the Junior ROTC program at his high school and intends on joining their marksmanship team (air rifles, from what he's told me) .

One of the reasons that I had his own rifle built is so that I can get him away from my .300 wsm. Lol. He shoots that one as well as I do. After we shot his .260, he wanted to shot my rifle. He got cocky after the first 3 shots and threw the fourth shot. I gave him some stern advice and he shut me up with shot 5. I wish that when I was 14 that I could shoot like that.

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Re: LA Precision Rifles .260 Remington

Nice write up, thanks for the kind words. It’s good to see young men being taught how to shoot by their fathers, memories. My 4 groove Bartlein with RP brass shot 43.6 grains of H4350 with CCIBR2's and 139's quite well. My new 5r with RP brass shoots 42.6 grains un-suppressed @ 2,840 fps and 42.0 grains suppressed @ 2,800 with the 139's.

I've found that the BR2's produce lower ES/SD for me with RP 260 brass giving the highest velocity over RP7-08, WW7-08 and Lapua 260 brass.

The Amax's do shoot good but, they seem to be seating depth sensitive. When you get a wild hair and want to try something different try the 142 SMK's or 139 Lapua Scenars, start at 42 and work up in .5 increments.
 
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That is great....love shooting with my little man. He thinks only William Roscoe can build a rifle. I promise you it will shoot a ragged hole when you are done. Pick a middle range charge and load 3-4 each at kissing the lands, .010, .040, and .070 off the lands. Pick the one that does best and ladder test in .3 grain increments with that seating depth at at least 300 and preferably 600 yds. Take the best powder load from the ladder test and tweak seating depth if necessary in .005 increments.....usually not needed. Call William and tell him how tiny the groups are on the target.
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Lots of ways to do it but that is what does it for me the fastest. My A max loads have all liked .010 off at the top of the load range.
 
Re: LA Precision Rifles .260 Remington

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ggmanning</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That is great....love shooting with my little man. He thinks only William Roscoe can build a rifle. </div></div>

Did I tell you how much I like your son. Love the video, it's been shown so many times I would have thought he'd have movie offers by now
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Re: LA Precision Rifles .260 Remington

Thanks William. I am sure GardDog will agree teaching your son to do man things is the most rewarding part of life.
 
Re: LA Precision Rifles .260 Remington

Congratulations Father and Son. Nothing better than what you guys are doing together.
 
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Two things, one great to see another 260 from William, I'm looking forward to mine before to long and more important is your time with your son. Mine is 6 and I've taken him shooting my .223 and I look forward to many more outruns an one day his own custom rifle.