Which is the preffered Die for a no-turn neck chamber .308 that will be used for solely FTR?
Thanks,
Don Dunlap
Thanks,
Don Dunlap
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Re: .308 Die Choice for FTR
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dgd6mm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Which is the preffered Die for a no-turn neck chamber .308 that will be used for solely FTR?
Thanks,
Don Dunlap </div></div>
Any die that you allows you to produce consistent shooting ammunition as quickly and as painlessly as possible. In other words it is not just the dies that make the ammunition so much as what tools you bring to the bench that work for you.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dgd6mm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Which is the preffered Die for a no-turn neck chamber .308 that will be used for solely FTR?
Thanks,
Don Dunlap </div></div>
Any die that you allows you to produce consistent shooting ammunition as quickly and as painlessly as possible. In other words it is not just the dies that make the ammunition so much as what tools you bring to the bench that work for you.
Re: .308 Die Choice for FTR
May just stick with the one I currently have, it and I make accurate ammo. Just looking for the better mousetrap...
May just stick with the one I currently have, it and I make accurate ammo. Just looking for the better mousetrap...
Re: .308 Die Choice for FTR
Donnie
Why not get a redding bushing die with the proper bushing(s)
Donnie
Why not get a redding bushing die with the proper bushing(s)
Re: .308 Die Choice for FTR
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shootone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Donnie
Why not get a redding bushing die with the proper bushing(s)
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+1.... well worth the money.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shootone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Donnie
Why not get a redding bushing die with the proper bushing(s)
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+1.... well worth the money.
Re: .308 Die Choice for FTR
Another way to do it is to buy a Redding 308 Win. body die and a lee collet neck sizing die. You have to do the brass in two steps for F/L bumping, but it works well without spending a lot of money on bushings.
I went the full Redding S bushing route (5 bushings for a variety of brass) with the Redding micrometer seating die, F/L S die and neck only S die. This makes very accurate ammo, but the ammo I make using the F/L body die and the lee collet neck sizing also produces accurate ammo.
I think the Lee collet die is under $25.00 and the Redding F/L body die was about $35.00 or so.
Another way to do it is to buy a Redding 308 Win. body die and a lee collet neck sizing die. You have to do the brass in two steps for F/L bumping, but it works well without spending a lot of money on bushings.
I went the full Redding S bushing route (5 bushings for a variety of brass) with the Redding micrometer seating die, F/L S die and neck only S die. This makes very accurate ammo, but the ammo I make using the F/L body die and the lee collet neck sizing also produces accurate ammo.
I think the Lee collet die is under $25.00 and the Redding F/L body die was about $35.00 or so.
Re: .308 Die Choice for FTR
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shootone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Donnie
Why not get a redding bushing die with the proper bushing(s)
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+1.... well worth the money. </div></div>
Getting the Redding +1. You can adjust the neck tension(different sized bushings) and you can also micrometer adjust how much of the neck you resize.
The redding comp bushing dies will provide more consistent and accurate reloads than anything else out on the market.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shootone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Donnie
Why not get a redding bushing die with the proper bushing(s)
</div></div>
+1.... well worth the money. </div></div>
Getting the Redding +1. You can adjust the neck tension(different sized bushings) and you can also micrometer adjust how much of the neck you resize.
The redding comp bushing dies will provide more consistent and accurate reloads than anything else out on the market.
Re: .308 Die Choice for FTR
what about a lee collet neck sizer and a redding body die? you get your sized body then you get a true neck...I like bushing dies but if you dont turn your necks you will push neck wall inconsistencies to the inside of the case neck which will cause bullet run-out. The collet die with its mandrel wont let that happen so the bullet is straight and your to turned brass's inconsistencies end up floating in the space of your no turn neck...no?
what about a lee collet neck sizer and a redding body die? you get your sized body then you get a true neck...I like bushing dies but if you dont turn your necks you will push neck wall inconsistencies to the inside of the case neck which will cause bullet run-out. The collet die with its mandrel wont let that happen so the bullet is straight and your to turned brass's inconsistencies end up floating in the space of your no turn neck...no?
Re: .308 Die Choice for FTR
Just to get an idea take a piece of brass with a way outta wack neck wall thickness fired from your gun and size it with the bushing die then check run-out...It will be great...now insert bullet and read off it...run-out of bullet which is alittle more important will be not so great...
Just to get an idea take a piece of brass with a way outta wack neck wall thickness fired from your gun and size it with the bushing die then check run-out...It will be great...now insert bullet and read off it...run-out of bullet which is alittle more important will be not so great...
Re: .308 Die Choice for FTR
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SuppressorJunkie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...if you dont turn your necks you will push neck wall inconsistencies to the inside of the case neck which will cause bullet run-out.</div></div>
which is why the last thing that touches the inside of the case on my bushing die is one of their floating carbide expander balls. Small, smoother, slicker, and self-centering, it pretty much does away with the traditional arguments against using expander balls. Combined with a properly selected size of bushing to where the ball just 'kisses' the inside of the neck on the way out (vs dragging all the way out)... gives nice, straight necks that have been resized just enough, not too much, and are nice and straight.
Now awaiting the torrent of opinions from people who have never tried the above setup, but 'know' expander balls are the root of all evil...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SuppressorJunkie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...if you dont turn your necks you will push neck wall inconsistencies to the inside of the case neck which will cause bullet run-out.</div></div>
which is why the last thing that touches the inside of the case on my bushing die is one of their floating carbide expander balls. Small, smoother, slicker, and self-centering, it pretty much does away with the traditional arguments against using expander balls. Combined with a properly selected size of bushing to where the ball just 'kisses' the inside of the neck on the way out (vs dragging all the way out)... gives nice, straight necks that have been resized just enough, not too much, and are nice and straight.
Now awaiting the torrent of opinions from people who have never tried the above setup, but 'know' expander balls are the root of all evil...
Re: .308 Die Choice for FTR
I use Forster Ultramicrometer dies. They have always worked well for me. I know others who run plain Jane RCBS dies, and seem to produce accuracy good enough for them. You've already read here that Redding is a favored manufacturer as well.
I use Forster Ultramicrometer dies. They have always worked well for me. I know others who run plain Jane RCBS dies, and seem to produce accuracy good enough for them. You've already read here that Redding is a favored manufacturer as well.
Re: .308 Die Choice for FTR
I have the Deluxe Lee .308 Die and have used the collet die on my other .308, produces accurate ammo. I'm leaning towards the Redding FL body neck sizing die. This is probably the route I will take. I'll clean the necks up also. Thanks everyone for the info.
Don Dunlap
I have the Deluxe Lee .308 Die and have used the collet die on my other .308, produces accurate ammo. I'm leaning towards the Redding FL body neck sizing die. This is probably the route I will take. I'll clean the necks up also. Thanks everyone for the info.
Don Dunlap
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