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Three PU snipers

donws2

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Got as far as I can on two of the three PU sniper Mosin Nagants. I'm waiting on parts and bolts now. In the picture the closest rifle is the one I completed today with parts from ncreptile from the gunboards.com forum. Great guy to deal with. The rifle in the middle is the one I finished last week and the one in back is a Finish capture I got about 15 years ago. It's the first restoration on the PU sniper I did so even though it's butt ugly at least I know some of it's history. I followed the instructions Joop posted and did the chinese blue print thing and looked at and copied the trigger set up in two of my Finish Mosins and now the trigger pull is 100% better. Not as nice as my M39's but as good as the two Fin captured 91/30's. Here's some eye candy for your reveiw.

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Looking great, Don!

I'm glad ncreptile was able to hook you up. I hope you can post some range reports when you get them up and running.
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John
 
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Thanks Joop. The bolts are at the guy you told me about. Should be back next week. Me and another Hide guy shot two of them a couple days ago. Looks promising. pain in the ass swaping bolt heads with the one sniper bolt body I have. I'll have to remove quite allot of material from the contact pads on the scope mount to get the windage correct. Once that's done then I'll see if they will shoot nice tight groups.

Donald
 
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Yep got 3 of them. 2 pu's and a pem exsniper that I plan to restore. And fun is right lol.
 
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There's a guy that's asked if I would restore a PEM for him. I've never seen a real on and I'd hate to F up some's rare rifle so I passed. If you find someone that knows what they are doing to restore a PEM let me know and I'll pass on the info.
 
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Hey Don in SC...

Do you have any advice on picking up scopes/scope mounts? I'm picking up a 91/30 tomorrow and I'm gonna buy an original bent bolt. I've started researching a scope/mount. Where did you get yours?
 
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Great work, Don!! I'm looking forward to seeing a range report!!

I recently completed restoring an Izhevsk ex-sniper - had George Tossan do the scope rail, inletting and bolt as well as working on the trigger and polishing everything to get the rifle ready for competition in VIntage Sniper matches.

I initially bought an Accumounts scope mount and had to grind it to get the scope centered - used a wire brush on a cordless drill and that worked like a charm. I just worked slowly and tested the alignment with a laser boresighter frequently.

I've bought several items from ncreptile, too. He is a top notch seller - one who can be trusted to deliver what he advertises and at a very fair price. I am waiting for an original Izheves mount I just bought from him to arrive.

For mountain1x - the trader forum on Gunboards is a great place to find original PU scopes & mounts. Finding a complete rail/scope/mount is rare but possible. Scopes are pretty frequently offered at good prices - better than you'll pay on eBay buying oriinal scopes from Ukraine, etc. With the number of PU scopes on the market, if you are patient you can easily find an original for about the same price you'll pay for a repro.

There are several potential pitfalls with buying an original scope mount and rail.

The problem with the rail only really affects you if you are restoring an ex-sniper that was previously drilled for a rail and later converted back. The Soviets used 3 different screw patterns - 53.5mm, 54.5mm and 55.5mm with the atter 2 being more prevelant. But, if you want to use the original holes and tap them, you have to make sure you buy the rail that correspondes to the existing holes. On the ex-sniper I just had restored, mine was the more rare 53.5mm and it took awhile to find one. If you are not concerned about original or repro, Accumounts sells them in all three measurements and even a blank that you can drill to your own desire.

The mount is a little more tricky. The basic elevation adjustment for the PU to boresight the scope was done using two elevation screws on the rail. By adjusting them you can center the crosshairs of the scope for elevation pretty easily and then zero to your own ammo, etc.

Adjusting the windage knob was accomplished by grinding the two pads on the inside rear of the mount (or by shimming the front if necessary). So, if you use an original mount that has been ground to match another rifle, there may not be enough of the pads left to have sufficient adjustment for your rifle. Of course, you can also always shim the front if necessary.

You can find original unground and unmarked mounts - I just bought one from the same person Don mentions as his source of parts - ncreptile on Gunboards.

I hope this helped.
 
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Here are my 3 PU snipers.

The top one is one of the CAI Ukraine-made repro snipers. It was built off a very nice '37 Izhevsk and was a great entry for me into the MN 91/30 snipers at just over $400 delivered.

In the middle is my '42 Izhevsk restored ex-sniper. The scope is also a '42 (Progress). This is the one I had worked on by George Tossan for competition and it is a tack driver. The trigger pull is a very smooth 4.5 to 5 lbs. I love this rifle!

On the bottom is my '43 Tula original bought from AIM in their recent batch of PUs. It also has a '42 Progress scope and is typical of the refurbs. I haven't had the time to work on this one to see how accurate I can get it with handloads but it seems promising with what I've seen with MILSURP rounds.

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