DBM BM or chassis?

[Helter]

I have a gun that shoots, pretty well actually. The internal mag doesn't work well though, and is only 3 rd anyway. It's starting to be a drag having to pull a round out of my pocket every shot.

I had been considering going with one of the whiz-bang chassis systems, but have been getting a little cost conscious lately. So, if I have a system that works is a lower end chassis system worth the extra cost over just getting a CDI BM for $209, and having my local gunsmith install it for $150?

I'm not in love with the B&C stock that I have, and I'd like to think that for the money I'd be in love with the chassis. I'm just wondering whether the extra customization options are worth the money, or just nice to have.

 

[Here2Learn]

Re: DBM BM or chassis?

I assume you have a Rem 700 action but that is an assumption. It really depends on how cheep you want to be on the front end. I imagine if you shoot a lot you will quickly grow tired of the B&C. I know I did. Putting bottom metal in your B&C will give you more rounds in the chamber but as you develop as a shooter I think you will see there are better options out there. Some call them "wiz bang" but fact is you get what you pay for when it comes to stocks/ chassis.

If you feel a chassis system is the way to go, I would recommend looking at JP Enterprise's AMCS chassis system. I have two and love them. They retail for $1099 and that includes 2 ten round mags (a $150 value). They have a v block so bedding is not necessary either.

Best advice I could offer would be to get behind as many as you can and see what fits you the best.

 

[Ring]

Re: DBM BM or chassis?

for me, i went with a chassis over a stock for ergonomics... grip angles on normal stock are just to uncomfortable for long shooting sessions...

i REALLY like this stock, but i still like a pure pistol grip of a chassis
http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/the-108/bell-carlson-adjustable-tactical/Detail

and with a DBM it would have cost me the same as my mcree... but i got a deal on a mcree, so couldnt say no...

 

[sled_mack]

Re: DBM BM or chassis?

You should really get behind a chassis (or stock) before you buy it. The AICS was not for me. I even had one on loan for a while, and thought it might grow on me. It didn't. But my AIAX chassis is great. My friend's McRee is about half way between those two for me.

 

[Rob01]

Re: DBM BM or chassis?

Best of both worlds is a Manners stock with their mini chassis system. You get the great feel of a traditional stock with the ease of bolt in and go DBM that uses AI mags.

 

[Helter]

Re: DBM BM or chassis?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sled</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You should really get behind a chassis (or stock) before you buy it. The AICS was not for me. I even had one on loan for a while, and thought it might grow on me. It didn't. But my AIAX chassis is great. My friend's McRee is about half way between those two for me. </div></div>

yeah, I may have to work on that... Good idea, thanks.

 

[sled_mack]

Re: DBM BM or chassis?

Helter - were you just at BHTC match last weekend? If so, that would have been a good time to check out a lot of different setups. Most guys have no problem letting someone check out there rifle. We were all in the same boat at some point in time.

As Rob pointed out, there are some other options available besides typical chassis. All the more reason to check out everything you can.

 

[sawman556]

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I am using a KRG W3 but they are not cheap. I've also been eyeballing a McCree with thoughts of putting a PRS on it. None of them are perfect at least in my findings. Get behind as many as you can. The Manners/BO mini chassis might be worth looking at and there is always the McM A5 with DBM of your choice. I like Surgeons BM with the A5.

 

[shrompman420]

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i have to say i was unsure at first about my mcrees, but after a little shooting with it i have really grown to like it. i have l/a and s/a and they both have been great my mags all fit great and feed no problem.
i just figured good stock+bedding+ pillars +bdm=alot
chassis+no bedding+no pillars +bdm included=less
thats just what sold me, just my 2 cents
i got the ar folder on mine so the price was greatly reduced on my mcrees.

 

[JB02]

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If that B&C stock has an aluminum bedding block, I would put a Surgeon DBM system in it. Once you include the mag, it's only marginally more expensive than CDI, but has a much nicer feel and look (forward guide lip, ambidextrous and non-protruding mag release).

My wife uses a Manners mini-chassis and I have one for myself on order. Although it is nice and she's happy with it, she has remarked that the Surgeon DBM on my A5 is a nicer setup. If you were starting from scratch I think it's a better to go that route, but since you've already have the B&C I would go with the Surgeon DBM.

 

[Pflyinguy]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shrompman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i have to say i was unsure at first about my mcrees, but after a little shooting with it i have really grown to like it. i have l/a and s/a and they both have been great my mags all fit great and feed no problem.
i just figured good stock+bedding+ pillars +bdm=alot
chassis+no bedding+no pillars +bdm included=less
thats just what sold me, just my 2 cents
i got the ar folder on mine so the price was greatly reduced on my mcrees. </div></div>

I have to agree. Even with the purchase of a used HS precision stock to upgrade one of my rifles, BDM and mag, cost of a gunsmith to do a quality bedding job etc... the Mcrees I bought for another rifle is much less expensive and shoots lights out.

 

[BravoSector1]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Here2Learn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I assume you have a Rem 700 action but that is an assumption. It really depends on how cheep you want to be on the front end. I imagine if you shoot a lot you will quickly grow tired of the B&C. I know I did. Putting bottom metal in your B&C will give you more rounds in the chamber but as you develop as a shooter I think you will see there are better options out there. Some call them "wiz bang" but fact is you get what you pay for when it comes to stocks/ chassis.

If you feel a chassis system is the way to go, I would recommend looking at JP Enterprise's AMCS chassis system. I have two and love them. They retail for $1099 and that includes 2 ten round mags (a $150 value). They have a v block so bedding is not necessary either.

Best advice I could offer would be to get behind as many as you can and see what fits you the best. </div></div>

I'm very happy with my JP AMCS and Savage SA.

 

[Helter]

Re: DBM BM or chassis?

Thanks for the help everyone.

Here's what I came away from this thread with.

1) I probably won't be happy with my current B&C stock for long, so I probably shouldn't put a ton of money into it.
2) Chassis systems aren't one size fits all, so I shouldn't just jump into the only one I can afford.

So, with that in mind I decided to go another, probably even less recommended route. I picked up a PTG bottom metal from RWS Gunsmithing, and I'll inlet the stock myself (wth, I have access to a milling machine...). I figure either I get myself some time to save up and figure out what chassis I want, or I wreck my stock, and then I *have* to buy something (and can only even close to afford the McRee). Either way, the decision becomes easier.

 

[shrompman420]

Re: DBM BM or chassis?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Helter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for the help everyone.

Here's what I came away from this thread with.

1) I probably won't be happy with my current B&C stock for long, so I probably shouldn't put a ton of money into it.
2) Chassis systems aren't one size fits all, so I shouldn't just jump into the only one I can afford.

So, with that in mind I decided to go another, probably even less recommended route. I picked up a PTG bottom metal from RWS Gunsmithing, and I'll inlet the stock myself (wth, I have access to a milling machine...). I figure either I get myself some time to save up and figure out what chassis I want, or I wreck my stock, and then I *have* to buy something (and can only even close to afford the McRee). Either way, the decision becomes easier. </div></div>well i tell you what if you have ar parts around, you really cant beat their price for just the folder adapter. their machined stock is super nice put it also adds about 250 to the price. just to let you know they arent 750 with the ar adapter.

 

[Ring]

Re: DBM BM or chassis?

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=311713&Number=3535583

list of Chassis under 1k

 

[Helter]

Re: DBM BM or chassis?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ring</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=311713&Number=3535583

list of Chassis under 1k </div></div>

Very nice, I had never heard of two of those (though I can't seem to find where you can buy the "rock solid" chassis, so I don't know if that really counts).

I got my new bottom metal in today, and took the rifle apart to get ready for the inletting.
The PTG bottom metal *almost* fits without change, but not quite. It looks like it just needs the tiniest bit shaved from the corners for the mag well to fit. I'll go slowly, so it'll take forever, but I don't foresee any problems.

As I was taking it apart though, I found two things. First, the bipod that came with it is apparently not a Harris. I guess it's some cheap airsoft copy. Second, the stock must have been a second, the butt plate has been ripped off, and a what I thought was just a slightly extended butt pad is actually a slip on to cover it up.

FUN! Well, even with those things I got a great deal on it, so I can't complain too much.