Rifle Scopes Vortex 6-24 PST or something different?

[hewlett260]

On a budget here so can't go over $900. I like the fact that the PST has a Zero Stop, and that the turrets are calibrated in the same units as the reticle. I don't need FFP and truthfully don't even like FFP(I know I'm going to hear it for that one) but SFP works for me. The other scopes I was looking at were the Burris MTAC 6.5-20x 50 and the Weaver tactical 4-20x 50.


I have had good experiences with Burris in the past which is why they are on the list along with the G2B Mil-Dot and .1 mil turrets as well as the 30mm tube. I haven't really looked for anything on here about them yet as they are relatively new.


The other one that I keep seeing info on is the Weaver. Most guys I read on here who use them seem to love 'em.


However the Burris has limited internal elevation, AO instead of SF and no zero stop. The Weaver seems all right except that I don't like FFP. I keep coming back to the SFP Vortex PST 6-24. What do you all think?

 

[Helmet]

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It doesn't have matching turrets/reticle. It also doesn't have a zero stop, but if it did it wouldn't be under $900. It was the only way I could afford the glass and I have no regrets. This is a great scope for shooting from a bench. It also has 100 MOA.
If you talk to Scott@LibertyOptics on the phone the price will be closer to $800.
http://www.libertyoptics.com/contents/en-us/p277.html

 

[JSTARSZ]

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Out of what you have mentioned and the money you want to allocate, you just can't beat the features of a Vortex PST. I started out with a Razor, but I couldn't afford but one of those, so I started buying the PST's with the same reticle. Not the same glass as a Razor but for the price range it is pretty good.

 

[Don-n-Texas]

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+1 0n the SFP

I went with the Vortex. I think it's the best in it's price range.

 

[RobG]

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For the money you have the PST is feature laden and should serve you well. There is no issue not getting FFP if its a feature you do not need. Plus, its 100.00 in your pocket.

 

[JB02]

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Lots of good scopes come in SFP ... ever heard of Nightforce?

What I like about FFP is that if the barrel is hot or it's a hot day, I can dial down the power and still get have accurate subtensions for hold overs. If this is something that's not necessary for you, then don't spend the extra money for this feature. My wife hates how the reticle on my FFP Razor shrinks when she dials down the power, but that might be because she's just used to using a SFP scope.

Speaking of which, she uses a SFP Vortex PST and enjoys it. No problems passing it's box test or a tracking test up to 11 mils.

You don't have to do with 6-24; 4-16 is plenty of power too. I have seen SFP PSTs for both of these variants (mil and MOA) for sale used here often. Keep your eyes out for one, or there are several vendors that advertise here that will hook you up.

 

[Helmet]

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I know everybody loves the PST and I agree that it's a good scope overall. However, I had a 4-16x50 PST that I traded in to get my IOR 16x42. With the PST on 16x I could usually see my bullet holes at 100 yards. With the 16x IOR I can usually see them out at 200 yards. The PST has better features, but the glass isn't in the same league.

 

[hewlett260]

Re: Vortex 6-24 PST or something different?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LCDR JGB</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lots of good scopes come in SFP ... ever heard of Nightforce?

What I like about FFP is that if the barrel is hot or it's a hot day, I can dial down the power and still get have accurate subtensions for hold overs. If this is something that's not necessary for you, then don't spend the extra money for this feature. My wife hates how the reticle on my FFP Razor shrinks when she dials down the power, but that might be because she's just used to using a SFP scope.

Speaking of which, she uses a SFP Vortex PST and enjoys it. No problems passing it's box test or a tracking test up to 11 mils.

You don't have to do with 6-24; 4-16 is plenty of power too. I have seen SFP PSTs for both of these variants (mil and MOA) for sale used here often. Keep your eyes out for one, or there are several vendors that advertise here that will hook you up. </div></div>

Ha! Yes, I actually own a Nightforce. See my problem is that my wife was cool with me going all out on my dream set-up(AI AW in 260 w/ NF 5.5-22. All my other rifles are kind of budget builds that are way over budget in her book.

I am not a fan of FFP because when I dial down I just go straight to the lower mil-power(i.e. 11x on my NF or 7x on my 4.5-14 Leupold) which I have gotten so used to doing, for me it's more of a consistency thing. And yes I know about all the benefits of FFP, it's just something that I have already gotten used to so I don't see the point of spending the extra $200 for FFP when that could be some other stuff I need like reloading equipment.

I was already leaning to the PST but just needed the extra reassurance. Thanks for the responses.

 

[RobG]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArmchairElite</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I know everybody loves the PST and I agree that it's a good scope overall. However, I had a 4-16x50 PST that I traded in to get my IOR 16x42. With the PST on 16x I could usually see my bullet holes at 100 yards. With the 16x IOR I can usually see them out at 200 yards. The PST has better features, but the glass isn't in the same league. </div></div>

I have had both and found the 6-24 to have better clarity. They both use the same glass supposedly but, there is something better about the 6-24. I spot 7mm holes at 200 yds easily and could actually just make them out at 300 until mirage obscured them at 20ish power.

 

[PowderMeasure]

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After researching the NF and Vortex scopes down to where they are manufactured and where the glass comes from etc and speaking with a few benchrest guys, I went with a Bushnell Elite Tactical 6-24x50 illuminated reticle for under $900.00. I didn't have a budget, got great glass and put the other $1,200.00 I would have spent on NF into my reloads etc. However, it is a FFP scope. I believe the same scope w/out the illuminated reticle is a SFP scope. check em out. Love it!

 

[kvwpwr]

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I was in the same boat a while ago. I was looking for a mid price range(to me) scope for long range. I ended up with the pst 6-24 SPF. I really like the scope. And the sfp version goes for about $750. the other scope I was considering was a sightron which I would probably be just as happy with from what I've heard.

I would cross the weaver of the list. It is ffp and the mildot reticle in it sucks and Knobs dont match. Elevation is limited also. Glass was nice but for the money the pst has matching turrets/reticle, a better reticle, more elevation... Well you know the features. Like I said, the sightron was my other choice but the pst won his time. I'll probably get a sightron at some point though.

 

[gbernardski]

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I've had the Weaver, good scope but doesn't look like you like the FFP, I've had mixed success with the Burris line, both good and bad. Since I live in Colorado and Burris has treated me very fairly when I've had 2 scopes go bad, I'd give it a try just to check it out. But, at the end of the day I have a PST and so far for the money I've had no problems. It tracks perfectly and the glass is good for what you pay!!

 

[Helmet]

Re: Vortex 6-24 PST or something different?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RobG</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArmchairElite</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I know everybody loves the PST and I agree that it's a good scope overall. However, I had a 4-16x50 PST that I traded in to get my IOR 16x42. With the PST on 16x I could usually see my bullet holes at 100 yards. With the 16x IOR I can usually see them out at 200 yards. The PST has better features, but the glass isn't in the same league. </div></div>

I have had both and found the 6-24 to have better clarity. They both use the same glass supposedly but, there is something better about the 6-24. I spot 7mm holes at 200 yds easily and could actually just make them out at 300 until mirage obscured them at 20ish power. </div></div>I have heard the same thing from others and I believe the 6-24 does have better clarity. It might just be a result of being longer. As far as seeing the holes(mine is 7mm also), I'm sure that on a higher power the PST can see them just fine. I wish I had a 6-24x50 to compare them both on 16x. My local range only goes up to 200 yards so that's as far as I've tried mine so far.

 

[Defcon424]

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no love for the bushnell elite tacticals in here ??

 

[hewlett260]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Defcon424</div><div class="ubbcode-body">no love for the bushnell elite tacticals in here ??</div></div>

Not really I've looked through several of them and wasn't very impressed. I had a Burris 3-9 Fullfield II that had a better image. I've also seen the Bushy's fail box tests before. The new HDMR's would definitely be an option but they are out of my price range and at that point I would just save some more and get another Nightforce.