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Explain this if you can

crowsniper1

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Could this be caused by a trim die? I could not get the bullets to seat and i have used this brass+dies before.It's .243 by the way.
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Ahah! I'm not the only one.

For me it was a case of too much annealing and excessive neck tension.

Were you neck sizing and used the wrong bushing?

I now use a mandrel expander on all cases before seating bullets. Makes for more even neck tension and fewer of these.
 
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....umm....so are you considering a different chamber for your new wildcat???
 
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That'll iron itself out when fired.
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The closest I've come to doing anything like that was mis-adjusted seating die that crimped the heck out of the bullet and swelled the shoulder out a little.
 
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Mntcrk is possibly on the right track or your case length/neck is too long causing a crimp action early on the bullet. I don't aneal so I can't testify to that.
 
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Could be many contributing factors, but you appear to have them all, in spades. Thick neck, severe shoulder angle, no VLD chamfering and probably more than I can think of? A thorough review of the process is indicated.
Good luck, BB
 
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My first guess is you screwed the seating die too far down into the press, and the die made contact with the shoulder when seating and crushed the case. If so, I would unscrew your die about 6 or 7 turns, and check it on an empty case to make sure you are not making contact on the shoulder.

Next, If you are not making contact on the shoulder with the die, then you have something causing tension and not allowing the bullet to seat smoothly. An unchamfered case mounth can catch on the bottom of the bullet and stick in the neck and fold the shoulders. But my guess is the first option! Recheck your die, and let us know.
 
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Makes 3 of us. Over annealed. Doesnt matter how your dies are lined up, if you over anneal the brass is so soft it just can't take the pressure seating a bullet with tension. That pic looks familiar ... Oh yeah I did the same damn thing
 
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Looks like an AP/AT 105 round.
 
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nice 243 "birdbath", did that once trying to push a .257 in a .243 case. I keep the different bullet size seperated better.
 
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To the OP, what did you/were you doing at the time?(more info please) We are all guessing ,but need to know what you found out.(or is this just entertainment for you :))