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Walmart rifles: Are these worth buying?

BlueMule

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I'm sure it probably curdles the blood of some of the members here to suggest buying a rifle from Wally World, but bear with me. The fact is that the prices are amazing. What I'm specifically interested in is a Remington 700 SPS in .30-06 with a scope(probably junk) for about $400. This is would be a deer hunting gun, not a long-range tactical rifle. It's going to get thrown in a truck backseat in a soft case, thrown in a truck bed, back of an ATV, sit in a blind, dropped on the ground, get rained on, etc. So I'm not looking for a show piece. But the detail that I'm worried about here is that you get what you pay for in life, and because it's Walmart, are the rifles that they sell of lesser quality than what you would get somewhere else, say a legit gun dealer? I've heard the theory that anything bought at Lowe's or Home Depot is made in mass quantity by the manufacturer and quality is thrown by the wayside to maximize profits, which leads me to speculate the same of Walmart. The gun is going to get beaten up, so I don't want to pay a premium price. But I do want the quality of a 700 with the smooth action of the bolt and the great trigger.
 
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It's still a 700. The scopes suck, and the stocks aren't great.

Just stay away from the 770. I have been reading for years how walmart buys factory seconds or lower grade guns, but its not true.
 
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Reminds me of the saying "if something is too good to be true, it probably isn't!"

But maybe I'm just an old cynic?
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$400....I'd go buy an old Finnish Mosin M39
 
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same rifle as others have, no cherry picking. Scope is junk, its part of that package deal thingy they do. I thought those were teh thin barrel models also, they tend to be cheaper anyway. Same at Dicks and Academy. SPS is a great starting point. Since you are getting it for $400, it leaves a ittle cash room to put into some extra goodies. Especially if its just for hunting. just mho.
 
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foundation is the same, 700 through and through, finish is not real tough( most rust rather easily). Think 400 for a barreled action, $200 for a better stock( dont want to miss that animal for a poi change due to the stock flexing?) Entry level scope for 200 or so.

You can get around $75 forthe stock/ scope combo on ebay..

Another option I see is Dicks sporting goods combos, usually on sale for 600-650 they have a laminate wood stock( more stable tan the plastic sps, a smoother finish on the metal, bdl floorplate, usually leupold or millet steel rings/base, and a nikon prostaff or buckmaster scope.. and have options from 243-300 win mag..
Good luck
 
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Sound fine to me. Good caliber, not a range queen, so 'doin' the durty out in the backwoods' should be right up its alley.

Get something else, more prime, for fixin up; this will do for the grunt work.

Cheeze, Louise folks, most hunters average maybe 20 rounds through them a year. This is not an application where 'exquisite' is an applicable term. For a big guided hunt, no, but for local deerslaying, it's fine. They'd sell out fast at $400 a pop around this locale.

Greg
 
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At most walmarts they keep a book behind the counter and can order a lot more than what is in the case. I've built 3 customs from 700's that I've picked up at Academy. It is all the same.
 
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OP it sounds like that rifle will do what you want it to. The cheap tupperware stocks are not the best, but they are very light. You do not have to worry about it flexing, as it sounds like you will do most of your shooting off hand or possibly off a rest. Either way you can always get a B&C, HS, Boyds, Manners etc stock for it later (if that is what you want).

The only thing you may want to do is cycle the bolt a few thousand times, as most matte blue SPS rifles are rather gritty when they are new. They do break in rather nice though.
 
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Have you tried a pawn shop? My father and I have picked up 2 700BDLs with decent 3x9 scopes for $330 and $324 in the last 2 years. Both in 30-06. One just a month ago. Both are close to new. A really decent pawn shop 700BDL for $330 +/- beats the hell out of that Walmart deal.
 
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you can get deals if you look around at the big box stores. I paid $499 for an sps tactical at Dick's.

Academy has Rem 700's for $380...
.473 bolt face
http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_10051_298207_-1?N=39632024+4294965700

mag bolt face
http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_10051_298213_-1?N=39632024+4294965700


that's pretty much as cheap as you'll get an action for. toss the stock and factory barrel in the trash or try to sell em for a few bucks and you might have yourself a brand new factory action for $300-325...gonna be hard to beat that
 
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You say you want to throw it around in the mud, and this rifle is expected to take a pretty harsh beating? Well, the only problem I foresee is the cheap scope, base, ring combo. You need to take all of that off, and buy quality parts that will withstand a beating. Get a Weaver picatinny base, some TPS rings, and a decent scope on it. These are all decently cheap options with the scope being most important. The last thing you want is to bump your rifle too hard on the trip to the stand, a 10 point buck comes strutting up, and you miss because the cheap Wal-Mart scope lost it's zero. Just remember that your whole setup is only as strong as the weakest link...buy once, cry once.
 
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I checked that option and while they can order others (I went for a 700SPS in .308 so I don't have to buy another caliber), the price increases dramatically; it was almost $600 for the .308 special order. This is why I'm considering the .30-06. Better ballistics, cheap stock that I don't mind beating up, somewhat decent coating on the metal, and the super low price on a new gun. Just have to buy another caliber (I only stock up 5.56 and .308 rifles and bullets in large quantities) and the gun will become a "specialized" unit. Because it's outside of the 5.56 and .308 range, I'll only purchase a 20rd box of .30-06 for hunting. Outside those 20rds for hunting, the gun will have no other use. A quandary it is...
 
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It is a wise idea. I've contemplated this as there are some good deals out there, it's just the time involved in searching it out. A BDL with a better stock would be nice.
 
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Very true. Scope and rings would be put on ebay immediately.
 
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My good friend bought a savage in 243 with a scope for 389. The thing shot lights out. He junked the scope of course.
 
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Hm, nv then. There's a 700BDL 30-06 at a pawn shop here in Houston with a Bushnell 3x9 on it for $349 right now.
 
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That'll work great. Even the scope, as long as you don't expect it to be particularly clear, or track.

I've found cheap scope generally hold a zero once you get them zeroed, which takes 10-15 rounds, because the silver sticker that says "1 click=1/4" at 100 yards" is lying to you, and they take a few shots to settle into an adjustment.

Should work great out to 250-300 yards.
 
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The first time I shot 800 yards was with a friend's 7mm and his cheapo Bass Pro 24X scope on there. That lump of glass must have cost him $150 and it was like looking through a coke bottle. But I could see the target, and he knew his gun well enough to tell me where to hold.
 
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I got my Sig M400 Enhanced at Wal-Mart 7or 8 months
ago for $917.00. They also had a beautiful Belgium Browning
Safari in 30-06the for a little over a grand if I recall correctly
 
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sadly, I bought a weatheby mark V in 300 WM over 15 years ago at wal-mart, first I called every gunshop in the yellow pages up to 100 miles away to see if they could beat the price and they all told me it was below their cost and got pretty pissed at wally world.
ended up buying it from them but never felt good about it, the rifle was a gem and super accurate but I always felt like I betrayed my local gunstore hardworkers.
never again.
 
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I have 4 rifles. The Sig is the only one purchased thru Wal-Mart
 
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Wall mart actually has soe of the highest standards there is on the products. My wife works in a factory that sell wal mart a particular product. Wal mart can be a real stickler!! Im sure this reington 700 is the same as any i would assume. Lee
 
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Wall mart actually has soe of the highest standards there is on the products. My wife works in a factory that sell wal mart a particular product. Wal mart can be a real stickler!! Im sure this reington 700 is the same as any i would assume. Lee
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: attherange</div><div class="ubbcode-body">sadly, I bought a weatheby mark V in 300 WM over 15 years ago at wal-mart, first I called every gunshop in the yellow pages up to 100 miles away to see if they could beat the price and they all told me it was below their cost and got pretty pissed at wally world.
ended up buying it from them but never felt good about it, the rifle was a gem and super accurate but I always felt like I betrayed my local gunstore hardworkers.
never again. </div></div>

Sorry you feel that way.

I avoid patronizing Walmart for the cheap Chinese junk whenever I can, but I have zero qualms about buying quality American stuff, such as Remington/Weatherby rifles. Walmart is tough on their suppliers, but obviously, Remington wouldn't supply to Walmart if it didn't make sound business sense to do so.

It's a win-win- win situation:

Walmart: Wins because they make money
Remington: Wins because they make money
You: Win because you get an unbeatable price on the goods you want

If it makes you feel better, go slip your local gunstore owner a $10 bill, which will be tax free to him. By the time he pays payroll, overhead, energy and uncle Sam, he probably wouldn't have netted $10 selling you the rifle anyway.
 
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Remingtons does not supply rifles to Wal Mart. Sports South does. Sports South is probably one of the same distributors that sells firearms to your dealer. Your dealer should be able to get you the same gun for approximately the same price. I do it all the time for customers, and dont make much by matching WalMart, but I do still make a few bucks.
 
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Here's the Skinny on Walmart guns. With a few exceptions of a few rifles and I do mean few the rifles you buy from Walmart are the exact same rifles you can buy anywhere else. Walmart is limited by that book to what they can order. They are also not a gun shop once you buy the rifle unless it's sending it back to the manufacturer for repair, IT IS YOURS PERIOD. Walmart does not buy and trade rifles they sell and that's it. MOST Walmarts would rather not sell guns PERIOD and many who have not made sales have stopped selling them. Don't forget to ask "What do you have in Lock Up? Walmart will often have Guns in the back room lock up that haven't sold in the past and they are kind of stuck with unless they have clearanced them out and have gotten them sold. I know my local one has a matched pair of 12 and 20 gauge Sam Walton special editions in the pack with matching serial numbers They have got to be worth something but last I knew they are still sitting there in the lockup with there original sale price Kind of high if you were going to just buy the gone for the model but pretty good deal for what they were. I was told each store was issued a pair at one point But heres the kick they are sold individually Where a gun store would mark these up and probably only sell these as a pair they are for sale individually but only if you ask about it because Walmart is for the most part told each season what guns are to be displayed in the cabinet. My local also has a lot of Brownings bolt actions in various calibers that they don't display from many years ago. Not all have the same thing but it's worth searching. Once upon a time Walmart could order what they wanted and try to sell the NOW They are told what they are to sell by HOME OFFICE so if you want something that isn't in the display case it's a special order from THE BOOK and they are limited as to what they can get from their suply houses Sport South & Lipseys. Walmart guns are usually only marked up about 5 to 15 percent so they are a good bargain. BUT I have gotten better prices from my local gunshop along with better service if I have an issue cause I'm dealing with someone that makes there living Knowing what they are talking about and NOT some pimply faced kid thats covering someone elses lunch like the one person who may or may not know something about guns at Walmart The Sporting goods Department Manager Sometimes they know sometimes they are the stupid one who took the job because they could pass the backround check and took the money to be responsible for all the guns in the store that they don't own. Basicly this person is the ones whose ass is on the line to go to jail with the store mananger if some minimum wage paid teenager fucks up and sells a gun to some one they weren't supose to. But that does not by any means they know what they are talking about guns or leagally they only know what Walmart tells them. So even though you might legally be able to buy something they wont sell it to you because it's "Walmart Policy". I've also ran into where assistant managers who are idiots by the way won't sign off on a gun sale because they do not want to get into trouble even take the chance of doing it. OH Walmart requires a salaried manager to sign off on all gun sales so their will be 2 signatures necessary to sell the gun. This is not law it's their store policy. Some are better than others and some shouldn in no way even be in the same store as a firearm. Hope this helps clarify somethings or perhaps it will just confuse you more. But The guns you by at walmart are not seconds or anything like that. They do have a few and I mean like maybe one or two a year that are Walmart exclusives though these would be the ones I'ld beware of. But all firearms are manufactured just like all other by the company who makes them so if you get a lemon it's the manufacturer who is to blame on that!
 
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Last firearm I bought from Wal-mart was an 870 Express 12ga shotgun. In Thronton, CO . Gander Mt had them for $359 and the wal-mart was only $280 (not on sale), the stores are right next to each other, so I went back and forth and compared the two and they were the exact same. I did not pay attention to the serial numbers though. Must be a volume sale thing, but for $80 it was a no-brainer.
 
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Great post pure mayhem.
The part about whats is back up in lock up is so true.....
 
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My local Walmart also has a Gun shop right at the entrance to the store and I know for a fact that they bought scopes from walmart when they were on clearance and turned them around at full price plus mounting if you wanted them to do it. You can't knock the Gunstore because the scopes were way below his cost so it would of been stupid to not pick them up. But just saying don't buy into the hype that everything that comes from walmart is junk.

That being said they do sell a lot of junk. AND I would rather suport my gun guy who has always given me a good deal, he'll take trades and the prices are better than I can get from Walmart, But each store operates differently not all give such service. Another case of just being an educated consumer.
 
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Gander mountain had one i just bought for $440. the stock is cheap, optics arnt the best but the 700 is a nice weapon especially after you customize it with everything you prefer. I put a Nikon Monarch and bells & Carlson stock on mine and changed it to accept DBM. this gun is easy to spend money on, you can't get much for $400
 
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You need good optics for hunting and I'd recomend a better stock, the one it comes will is cheao annd hollow, not meant to endure hunting conditions in my opinion
 
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I have seen the remington 770 and that would be what i would call a walmart gun..I would swear it was made in china.. horrible action (bolt) and have read of bad failures.. buyers beware..
 
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if its cheap enough, there are parts to salvage from it for a build like everyone else has stated.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlueMule</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm sure it probably curdles the blood of some of the members here to suggest buying a rifle from Wally World, but bear with me. The fact is that the prices are amazing. What I'm specifically interested in is a Remington 700 SPS in .30-06 with a scope(probably junk) for about $400. This is would be a deer hunting gun, not a long-range tactical rifle. It's going to get thrown in a truck backseat in a soft case, thrown in a truck bed, back of an ATV, sit in a blind, dropped on the ground, get rained on, etc. So I'm not looking for a show piece. But the detail that I'm worried about here is that you get what you pay for in life, and because it's Walmart, are the rifles that they sell of lesser quality than what you would get somewhere else, say a legit gun dealer? I've heard the theory that anything bought at Lowe's or Home Depot is made in mass quantity by the manufacturer and quality is thrown by the wayside to maximize profits, which leads me to speculate the same of Walmart. The gun is going to get beaten up, so I don't want to pay a premium price. But I do want the quality of a 700 with the smooth action of the bolt and the great trigger. </div></div>

as long as its a 700 it wont be horrible, but its not going to be a diamond in the rough. its probably going to be fine as long as your shots are within 300yds. a side bonus is that you can upgrade along the way as you want.
 
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A local gun builder here sends more guys to town to buy a Wal mart Rem 700 to customize than a person would think. Buy a $400.00 gun, strip it, sell the stock, barrel, trigger, true the action. Makes more sense than paying someone $400.00 bucks for a bare action.
 
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walmart is good if you now what you want..