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Rifle Scopes NF zero stop worth 200 more

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Any used the NF zero stop. Are they worth the 200 extra they cost. 8-32 NF will be going on les Baer ar-10 308 with addland 20 moa mount
I plan on getting a custom bdc turret made and shooting 100-1000 yards mostly target but some hunt.

Is the zero stop worth the 200 extra
 
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IMO not unless you are shooting in contests or hunting in places that require many changes in your elevation adjustments with frequent returns to your zero setting. For static ranges shooting it's not a necessity.
 
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Is it needed? NO

Is is a nice feature? Yes

It simplifies time at the range having a easy return to zero feature. Less to write down or keep track of in your head when your working on other points of interest, ie, checking the stock, new loads, mounts, etc. Not needed, but nice...worth it? To me, yes.

Trevor B.
 
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+1 on all of the above.

AND...skip the BS, custom BDC turrets. While they seem like a good idea, in reality they aren't that great. Even under the most ideal conditions, all BDC turrets (and reticles) are based on a specific round, at a specific velocity, with a specific zero range, etc. A custom turret build with EXACTLY those variables is ALL you get. The problem is that with any "variables"...THEY F-ING VARY!! The specs that you get your BDC turrets built on today WILL be at least somewhat different every time you are at the range or in the field and every slight change in those variables will alter the trajectory of your bullet and the dope needed to accurately put shots on target. The further the range to your target, the more those variables come into play and the worse off you may be. Some variations may be slight and you may still be able to put rounds on target, while others may be off by a mile (well...might as well be a mile...a miss is a miss is a miss).
 
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Yes easily.

Its too easy to go from far to near targets and get lost in the turns or be a whole turn off.
 
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i'm a huge fan of ZS. just last year on an antelope hunt, the turret on my weaver tactical had moved up 4moa (so i thought), went back to the zero hash, shot- and missed the doe... (the turret had actually spun the other way...
with the NF ZS, you don't even have to look at it, spin till it stops and back to 0 every time!
 
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it depends on what your doing, but for the most part, I don't buy nightforce scopes without it.
 
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yes its worth it. I am shocked actually its been so slow of a feature for other companies to add to their optics. don't plan on any love for BDC around here. everyone says conditions change from your BDC turret calibration. which is true, but until you get beyond 600 yards likely the atmospheric and altitude variables will have little to no effect from your calibration. and beyond this you can just add or take a way clicks from your baseline to accomodate conditions. my custom turret was made when I ran my load over 70 fps faster than where its at now. at 500 I need an extra click, at 700 2 clicks, at 800 3 clicks and at 1000 yards 4 clicks extra. the marines did essentially the same thing with the veneer adjustment on the old unertls. the guys around here don't like this sort of setup so don't look for love for it. but as a hunter needing a quick shot and likely shooting inside 800 yards its the easiest system for me to use.
 
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If it's available in a scope i'm looking at, i buy that option. Always worth it to me especially at $200. All my scopes except my SWFAs have ZS. I love ZS.
 
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Coming from someone that doesn't have ZS and wants to buy a hole new scope just to get that one feature, Yes its worth it.
 
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Don't buy one without. ZS. If you ever want/ need to sell it you will get your money back. Many shooters, including me, would not even consider buying your used Nightforce unless it has Zero Stop
 
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As one that has both, I will not buy another without it. It is just plain easy to use/set and well look above!

I have an apples to apples pair. Both 5.5-22x50 NPR2's bought about 2 years apart. One is ZS and one is not.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Todd629</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't buy one without ZS. If you ever want/ need to sell it you will get your money back. Many shooters, including me, would not even consider buying your used Nightforce unless it has Zero Stop. </div></div>

^^^ This right here.
 
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All my Night Forces have ZS. Like someone else pointed out, its a great re-sale feature as well
 
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I just got a new scope with ZS...and it does make life much easier when long range shooting. The resale will also be a big bonus.
 
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Don't have it on my 3 scopes, but plan to have it on all future buys and I only shoot target. Would be more valuable hunting. Would not waste money on BDC turrets. You should have enough time and patience to make adjustments for your shot.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sib1948</div><div class="ubbcode-body">... Would be more valuable hunting. ...</div></div>

No way I'm ever hanging a two lb NF on a hunting rifle as long as Swro makes scopes that are half the weight for 1/2 to 2/3 the price with a mil based reticle. (BRX/BRH)
 
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XTR,

I more or less see you point, but your comparisons don't seem to add up. Which Swaro has ballistic/tactical turrets, illumination for 1/2 to 1/3 the cost of the Nightforce scope the OP was talking about? Excluding Nightforce's FFP riflescope the most you will pay is about $1800. The cheapest Swarovski with illumination starts around $2700 - without ballistic/tactical turrets.

It's hard to make cost comparisons between different manufacturers like these two because they stress different features.

I object to the OP wanting an 8-32x scope for (some) hunting - too much magnification.
 
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swaro doesn't begin to have the features NF does. and when I can afford it I am going to suck it up and put an NF on my hunting rifle.
 
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Yea, a NF has more features, none of which I find a need for in a deer stand. I've hunted for over 45 yrs w/o illuminated reticles. I've never missed a legal shot on a deer because I didn't have an illuminated retical. They are nice to have but not at the cost in weight and $$ IMO.

As for turrets, in a deer rifle, I'll pass on dialing. If you have a decent retical you can hold pretty much anything you need with a decent retical. Finding a good retical that's not someone's interpretation of a BDC is somewhat harder, which is why my deer rifles sport 3-9x42 Swaro Z3s with a BRX/BRH reticle. They have a simple, useful, 0.5 mil aiming points on the vertical. They have good glass, they work easily out to reasonable ranges (under 600) with modern ammo and out to 250 on a 45-70, it weighs 12 oz, cost less than $1000.

I own 4 illuminated scopes, 2 NF scopes (I have a 42 and a 32 that I've run on my TR rifles), a Bushy 3-12 FFP and a SS 5-20. Only the little Bushy has a chance of going on a hunting rifle since it doesn't weigh a ton and doesn't have to be mounted 2 inches above the bore.

My only complaint about NF is the weight, in any of their scopes. I don't even play pretend combat games with my rifles. My scopes don't need to weigh 30oz or more. When it comes to hunting the truth is, in recent yrs, my $219 Bushnell DOA 250 mounted on a cheap Knight rolling block muzzle loader has killed way more deer (at ranges out to 150) than my other rifles combined. (During TN muzzle loader season you can take four does)

<span style="font-style: italic">edit: as an aside, I've got to particular like for Swro other than that they make a retical in a hunting rifle that is just a simple .5 mil has/dot system and not some kind of BDC system that doesn't actually work for anything.</span>
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">BDC system that doesn't actually work for anything</div></div>

Amen on this! I have the rapid Z600 reticle on a Zeiss. It works but it requires a good deal of front end work to understand it properly and calibrate it. I've come to realize I would prefer straight 0.5 mil steps with windage tree, like the BRX. More intuitive.