Level

[Rob.308]

Does anyone have a level mounted on their optic? I have seen them for sale from numerouss sources but I was wondering if anyone who has used one would let me know their thoughts on using one in the field. I just don't want to get it and add it to my stick and then find out it just isn't something I really needed.

Thanks,
Rob

 

[Topstrap]

Re: Level

We have them on all our LR guns, some shooters feel they don't need them but I think it's just a nice piece of equipment that lets you just double check to make sure you're plumb. If your targets are larger then the slight variance you might get from not being plumb every shot might not show up. For shooting small groups or small steel targets at extended distances then that slight variation could lead to a miss or larger groups.

We've seen more shooters adding them to their guns at our local 1000 yard matches as the scores are getting higher and the gamble for the smaller, higher value targets are needed they are using a level to gain an increase in their scores and hits.

They aren't that much in the whole scheme of a build but you do have to set them up right. When the level shows level you have to make sure your scope tracks true up thru the distances you'll be shooting. Only way to ensure that is by using the level and shooting a target and increasing the elevation in your scope and making sure the bullets are tracking straight up a verticle line.

Don't get the ones that fasten to the scope base, get one that goes on the scope so you can rotate and true it up.

Good luck

Topstrap

 

[2/1_Kiwi]

Re: Level

They range from cheap to pricy for more advanced models, but it depends what you need and use it for. When you say "field" do you mean range, hunting or two way range?

For the minimal weight added, short amount of time taken its not really that much of an embuggerance.

 

[Rob.308]

Re: Level

Thanks for the input. I appreciate it.

Rob

 

[7fingers]

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I feel that levels are a must, 1/2 deg at a 1000 yards equals 10 inches which when shooting at an 8 inch target is a miss. I also agree with Topstrap that it needs to be on the scope and not the base. If you are setting up a hunting rig I would not worry with it as most shots taken are inside of 400 yards. For LR shooting add one, for a typical hunting rifle save your money.

 

[Temp9]

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If I shot on flat ranges regularly, I probably wouldn't use one. But I shoot in mountainous terrain where the horizon is not visible. Not to mention the ground the target is on is extremely crooked, as is the ground I'm on. What appears to be straight can be quite a bit off center.

 

[Rob.308]

Re: Level

I apperciate everyones input! This type of stuff is what makes Snipers Hide so great.

Thanks,
Rob

 

[Ring]

Re: Level

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=45375/Product/SINCLAIR-OFFSET-SCOPE-LEVEL

 

[KillShot]

Re: Level

Flatline Ops — http://flatlineops.com/products

 

[George63]

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vortex for about 30$ is decent

 

[Rob.308]

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George63,

I agree with you 100%. For the money the one from Vortex looks awesome. I like the way it is out to the side so you can see it with your non-shooting eye.

I like the idea of the ones that flip out and and back to remain on top of the main tube, however, the extra $100 seems a bit steep for them in my opinion.

Rob

 

[Hookturnr]

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Hollands level is a decent quality piece as well..

 

[lonely_wolf]

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@ OP: You might like this some what recent thread:
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=267686&Number=3148751

 

[Rob.308]

Re: Level

Thanks again for everyones input. I had never seen the Holland and I love getting to see new products.

Rob

 

[Smurfwarrior]

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Just ordered the Holland... $60, no bad and good looking.

 

[cmh2007]

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so ya'll don't like the rail mounted levels? why so?

 

[MuleyTime]

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I think rail mounted levels are just fine as long as you are leveling your RETICLE (NOT YOUR SCOPE) in sync with the rail level.

The key is to level you're reticle (again..not the scope) using a plumb bob or other similar device.

I have used this device for years and never had an issue with level reticles..... Deadeye Levler

There are probably better/quicker methods than the Deadeye, but I purchased one years ago and believe it does a great job.

 

[cmh2007]

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ok, i see, they way i did mine was to level the gun in my table top vice and hang a plumb bob on the wall...seemed to work good

 

[10rounds]

Re: Level

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Smurfwarrior</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just ordered the Holland... $60, no bad and good looking. </div></div>

Ordered one today also!

 

[LawnMM]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MuleyTime</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think rail mounted levels are just fine as long as you are leveling your RETICLE (NOT YOUR SCOPE) in sync with the rail level.

The key is to level you're reticle (again..not the scope) using a plumb bob or other similar device.

I have used this device for years and never had an issue with level reticles..... Deadeye Levler

There are probably better/quicker methods than the Deadeye, but I purchased one years ago and believe it does a great job. </div></div>

You need to level the erector assembly of the scope, not the reticle. Even high end scopes can have a slight cant to the reticle. If you level the reticle, then dial elevation, you are adding elevation AND windage depending on the degree of cant. Maybe your reticle is perfectly plumb, if so great, but many aren't and you are giving bad advice, I learned this lesson the hard way.

 

[Savage15]

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a level is a very useful tool.
1 degree of cant equals a six inch change in POI at 1000 yards

 

[JohnnyC]

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Was looking at the Flatline Ops one along with their ACI. Ended up with Spuhr rings so that takes care of the level, and my PLRF-10C takes care of any angular issues when I throw it into FFS so I decided against. Once I get a chance to really put it through its paces I'll see if I want to go with a dedicated level/aci setup.

I was initially considering the Flatline because of its low profile when folded.

 

[Eric B.]

Re: Level (Horus ASLI

I have a Horus Angle, Slope, Level Indicator. It's light and has several mounting options, either on your scope or your rail.

GOOGLE Horus Vision.