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.5 MOA for $1700

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If I gave you $1700 for a rifle/scope/bipod/etc. what would you buy? The rifle would have to be .5 moa or close to it. The scope has to have at-least 15X magnification. Caliber needs to be .308.
 
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Savage of your choice, Super Sniper, Harris. And you'll still probably have plenty left for ammo.
 
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Your probably going to get this same recommendation over and over again, so here it is.
•Remington 700 AAC-SD in .308
•Put in(because its is a budget rifle project)either a B&C or H-S Precision stock
•SWFA 16× mil/mil scope(why does it have to be 15× ?)
•Harris swivel bipod(any length, I like 9-13) with podlock
•Bedd action to stock(if need be)
•Get reloading equipment and start to hand load ammo for your gun.
•Enjoy your new gun.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tyler Kemp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Savage of your choice, Super Sniper, Harris. And you'll still probably have plenty left for ammo. </div></div>

+1
 
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It has to be 15+ because this is for my dad and he requested it. He would also prefer a muzzle-brake and for the stock to be more of a traditional hunting style type. As far as I know, the savage 10 fcp-k seems to be the perfect fit. I would assume that it would be .5 moa if not under with the right loads. I would probably go for a Weaver tactical 5-20X50 scope, harris bipod, rings, base, etc. for under $1700. Anyone have any experience with the 10 fcp-k? Or any of the heavy barrel savages? What about the accu-stock?
 
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Tikka CTR
Vortex PST 4-16
TPS Rings
Harris bipod
 
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+1<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MDStroup</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Your probably going to get this same recommendation over and over again, so here it is.
•Remington 700 AAC-SD in .308
•Put in(because its is a budget rifle project)either a B&C or H-S Precision stock
•SWFA 16× mil/mil scope(why does it have to be 15× ?)
•Harris swivel bipod(any length, I like 9-13) with podlock
•Bedd action to stock(if need be)
•Get reloading equipment and start to hand load ammo for your gun.
•Enjoy your new gun.
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I'd get an SPS Tac or AAC, a B&C stock, and a used Leupold Mark 4 3.5-10x if that were my budget. Top it off with a Harris and quality base/rings.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wwrhodes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It has to be 15+ because this is for my dad and he requested it. He would also prefer a muzzle-brake and for the stock to be more of a traditional hunting style type. As far as I know, the savage 10 fcp-k seems to be the perfect fit. I would assume that it would be .5 moa if not under with the right loads. I would probably go for a Weaver tactical 5-20X50 scope, harris bipod, rings, base, etc. for under $1700. Anyone have any experience with the 10 fcp-k? Or any of the heavy barrel savages? What about the accu-stock? </div></div>

I have the AccuStock and love it. I can take the barrel/action out of the stock and put it back and not lose POI.

My Savage will shoot 3/8" groups with factory hunting ammo if I do my part. Mine does not have the heavy barrel, but I plan to have Savage change it to a varmit barrel and they say it should be more accurate. It's hard to believe it could get better. I would not hesitate to buy another one.
 
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I bought a Winchester Stealth .308 last summer ($800) and it was one of the best out of the box rifles I have seen in a LONG time. Had 26" barrel, FNH built action (Pre 64 controlled round feed) B&C stock w/aluminum bedding block, and shot 1/2"-3/4" w/168's. Heck of a value. Throw on a Harris bipod, Farrel WSM rail, Vortex scope/rings and you won't be sorry.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wwrhodes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If I gave you $1700 for a rifle/scope/bipod/etc. what would you buy? The rifle would have to be .5 moa or close to it. The scope has to have at-least 15X magnification. Caliber needs to be .308.</div></div>

.5 MOA is tough if you are talking consistent. See this thread.
http://snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3622577&page=1

+1 on the SWFA scopes (10x, 16x, 20x). Good scope for the money.
 
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I would get a Tikka T3 scout in 308 (Cabelas has them on sale for $750). I dont have a large sample rate but have heard very good things about them and the one I have seen shoot was impressive. The first group shot with the rifle (that only had 20 rounds threw the bore) was 8 rounds @ 100yards that measured 0.410" and that was with no load work up. They come with a 20" barrel in 11 twist and have a pic rail. I would save up a few hundred more and get a 5-20 Super Sniper. It will be worth it in the long run!
 
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Check the for sale section.

From experience, it is tough to get a guaranteed. 5 moa rifle, fully set up, for under $2000. That is asking a LOT for all factory components.

If you said 1moa all day, that would be easier to accommodate.

700sps aac is pre threaded.
Some Savage models are pre threaded also.
Those rifles will accept a muzzle break a lot cheaper than the alternatives.

I have an SPS tactical in an HS precision 700P stock and it shoots 3/4 moa most everyday. I think it is more consistent than I am sometimes. It has never shot over 1moa, ever. It is a fun shooting, easily packable rifle.

Just food for thought.
 
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The other factor you have to consider is this: is your dad a half moa shooter all day, every day?

Please understand: I am not trash talking your dad. I believe the greatest times I have with my dad (and now my son), they have all been at the range. Even if we have a crappy day.

But, if your dad is not capable of the half moa the rifle is, itmay loosen the budget a bit for QUALITY ammo. I suggest FGMM or SW Ammo.
 
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.5 moa is kinda pushing it for most stock rifles. I'd expect a Savage or R700 to be around .75moa if you're hand loading.

The rifle is almost more capable than the shooter at least at first. I'm sure my build is much better than I am, and in the hands of a skilled shooter will probably surprise me.

YMMV, but getting .5" groups consistently comes with a LOT of practice and you're not going to afford much in the way of match rounds for practice after building up a rifle for $1700.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ogreshooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The other factor you have to consider is this: is your dad a half moa shooter all day, every day?

Please understand: I am not trash talking your dad. I believe the greatest times I have with my dad (and now my son), they have all been at the range. Even if we have a crappy day.

But, if your dad is not capable of the half moa the rifle is, itmay loosen the budget a bit for QUALITY ammo. I suggest FGMM or SW Ammo. </div></div>

He is definitely not a .5 moa shooter, but I'm just relaying to you what he is requesting. I will end up using it more than he will, and he wants a quality rifle to have fun at the range with and pass down. We both have 300WSM for elk/mule deer hunting, but ammo for them is too expensive and the kick is too much to enjoy a day at the range. I am not saying I am a .5 moa shooter either, but I can do .75" at 100 yards pretty consistently and I am still getting a lot better.
 
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He is kinda set on the Savage 10 fcp-k, and as far as I can gather... it is performing very well out of the box. For $700 it is hard to disagree with his choice.
 
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I purchased the savage FCP-K about 9 months ago put it in an XLR chassis, Vortex PST 4-16 with Badger rail and rings and and atlas bipod. Absolutely could not be happier. Granted with the goodies I put on more than a $1700 setup but when I do my job which isn't all the time it will shoot 1/2, in the hands a a real shooter I have seen it put together repeated 1/2 MOA groups. It loves federal FGMM 168's. Honestly never shot it with the accustock, always in the XLR, so I can't comment on that.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wwrhodes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He is kinda set on the Savage 10 fcp-k, and as far as I can gather... it is performing very well out of the box. For $700 it is hard to disagree with his choice. </div></div>

So he already has a gun?? If not I would say Rem 5R in 308. Top it with the 5-15x44 Vortex from MidwayUsa, Weaver Pic Rail, TPS rings. That will leave room for several hundred rounds of ammo.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jsthntn247</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wwrhodes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He is kinda set on the Savage 10 fcp-k, and as far as I can gather... it is performing very well out of the box. For $700 it is hard to disagree with his choice. </div></div>

So he already has a gun?? If not I would say Rem 5R in 308. Top it with the 5-15x44 Vortex from MidwayUsa, Weaver Pic Rail, TPS rings. That will leave room for several hundred rounds of ammo. </div></div>
agreed
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tyler Kemp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Savage of your choice, Super Sniper, Harris. And you'll still probably have plenty left for ammo. </div></div>
+2
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jsthntn247</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wwrhodes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He is kinda set on the Savage 10 fcp-k, and as far as I can gather... it is performing very well out of the box. For $700 it is hard to disagree with his choice. </div></div>

So he already has a gun?? If not I would say Rem 5R in 308. Top it with the 5-15x44 Vortex from MidwayUsa, Weaver Pic Rail, TPS rings. That will leave room for several hundred rounds of ammo. </div></div>
No, he hasn't bought it yet. I will look into the 5R, but neither of us like the Remington 700 that much. It seems like the fcp-k is unbeatable value. He also wants a X50 scope, I have already tried to convince him to open up his options.
 
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Not the best pic but you get the idea.
magnetospeed002.jpg

Remington varmint 243 @ 575
B&C light tactical stock @ 225
DNZ mount @ 75
Midway special Vortex 5-15x@ 299 (at the time, I believe)
Timney trigger @ 125

Total 1299

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105 VLD 3 shots ~7" (second shot was hard to see but its dead center in the funky orange) 1000y
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Or sub the Barreled action for a 308 tactical if you don’t reload and sub in another scope than what I have pictured

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tyler Kemp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Savage of your choice, Super Sniper, Harris. And you'll still probably have plenty left for ammo. </div></div>

Absofreakinlutely!! That is a HUGE +1 right there...

DK
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beenjammin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What about this??

http://www.snipercentral.com/scriflepackagedetails.phtml?packageid=2

Definitely like the Vortex PST SFP for the scope if it can be done. I not SS 16x for sure. </div></div>
I have messed around with some options on that Remington and Howa package, but I am not really seeing any greater value than the Savage 10 FCP-K when it can be had for $700. I have priced everything together, accessories and all and I can get the fcp-k w/ vortex 6-24X50 for <$1650.
 
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700 acc-sd Harris bi-pod, falcon meanece x10 and a Mcreese stock, KRG blot knob, egw 20 moa rail, 1500.00 done
 
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Get the Savage. Great rifle and accuracy for the $$. Love my 10BA-LE in .308. I have done .3-.4 groups @ 100 while doing my load work ups. (175SMK in IMI match brass). Shot .5" group the first day with some half assed ammo I put together with FC NATO range brass, 168 hornady and 10 year old BLC-2 powder.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Niles Coyote</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not the best pic but you get the idea.
magnetospeed002.jpg

Remington varmint 243 @ 575
B&C light tactical stock @ 225
DNZ mount @ 75
Midway special Vortex 5-15x@ 299 (at the time, I believe)
Timney trigger @ 125

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What is that on the end of your barrel? What is it wired to?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Luky</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Niles Coyote</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not the best pic but you get the idea.
magnetospeed002.jpg

Remington varmint 243 @ 575
B&C light tactical stock @ 225
DNZ mount @ 75
Midway special Vortex 5-15x@ 299 (at the time, I believe)
Timney trigger @ 125

</div></div>


What is that on the end of your barrel? What is it wired to? </div></div>

Its a MagnetoSpeed Chronograph
http://www.magnetospeed.com/
 
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well if you want to save a few bucks and have a threaded barrel i would get the Savage Model 11 Hog Hunter. you can get them for about 200 bucks less than the AAC-SD. get a replacement stock off of stocky's or another well known site, put on a muzzle brake, bipods, and scope.

i own a AAC-SD and am thinking of getting the Hog Hunter in .223. not sure if it'll be a .5 MOA shooter but im sure if you get the right stock and bedd the action it'll be at least 1 moa or better.

even if you buy an AAC-SD or any other off the shelf rifle you may not get .5 moa with factory ammo.
 
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I've been talking to my local dealer and we've struck a deal for a Remington 700 tactical, vortex viper scope, warne rings and base for 1150. Damn good deal if you ask me
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: s.i.t.</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've been talking to my local dealer and we've struck a deal for a Remington 700 tactical, vortex viper scope, warne rings and base for 1150. Damn good deal if you ask me </div></div>

excellent
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wwrhodes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If I gave you $1700 for a rifle/scope/bipod/etc. what would you buy? The rifle would have to be .5 moa or close to it. The scope has to have at-least 15X magnification. Caliber needs to be .308. </div></div>

Id give you the rifle on the bottom.
Rem SPSS in 308, HS Precision PSV096 stock
Jewell trigger w/bottom safety.
Burris 6-24 Signature/fine plex w/TPS 20MOA base and TPS rings. Shoots like this.
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+ 1 on the savage, I'm a bit over that price, just $1800, with my savage 6.5CM LRP, harris 6-9 swivel bipod and vortex 6-24. I've shot.5 moa out to 600 yds if I do my part with factory hornady amax 140. Used to shoot a lot when I was younger but just got back into shooting again. The LRP with the heavier receiver and target trigger doesn't come in .308 though.
 
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I was less than that into my FN SPR A1(DBM) scoped,though I stabbed a 3.5-10x M3 on it. It ships with a McMillan,though the DBM's COAL latitude is trite and well shy of the throat,which is a goat fuck on a 3" receiver.

But I hate Winchesters and 308's.
 
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If you want a rifle that will actually deliver 1 MOA or better, especially if you expect .5 MOA, then you really have only two options.
1. Buy a used rifle from someone you trust who can show you actual groups that the rifle has shot. There are many nice used rifles listed and sold on this website that will meet your needs for both accuracy and price.
--or--
2. Buy a new rifle that comes with a guarantee that it will deliver the level of accuracy you desire.

If you do not pick one of the options above then you are just taking a gamble on the level of accuracy you will end up with. I believe any factory rifle that you buy new in the price range you are talking about will only meet your desire if you happen to get lucky. Just because some folks talk about getting a certain level of accuracy with their XYZ rifles, does not mean that all XYZ rifles will provide that level of accuracy. If you are willing to take a gamble with $1700 then that's your call, just go into the deal with your eyes wide open!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RMulhern</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Every time I have tried to do a deal cheaply it always wound up costing me double!!
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The most expensive thing you can buy is junk!
 
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+1 on this
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tyler Kemp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Savage of your choice, Super Sniper, Harris. And you'll still probably have plenty left for ammo.</div></div>
 
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I'd buy a Harvester in .308 from Hill Country Rifles in Texas. They take a Remington 700 heavy barreled .308 and replace the stock, bed the action, etc.

They will supply the test targets, they guarantee sub inch, but many I've seen have shot sub .5 MOA.

I've been surprised that I don't see more mention of them on the hide.