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Sako TRG 300 win mag

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So... Here's my question. I am deciding on the Savage 110BA in 300wm for $1900 or a Sako TRG for $3000... Is the Sako that much better? And im having trouble finding a place to buy a TRG!

Thanks
 
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Yes they are that much better,
try euro optic. I heard a rumor on here that Sako stopped manufacturing the 300 WM but don't quote me on it
 
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dammit!! well I really dont want a 308 or a 338... Any suggestions on a good 300wm long range rifle for around $3000?
 
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I was in the exact same boat. Got tired of looking, and the TRG-42's you find on GunBroker were priced high for the 300WM.

I bought the Savage 110BA..but actually found a new one in .338LM for $1600. I have been playing with it for the last 3 weeks, and will say it shoots better than my TRG-22 did! It's just the cost of reloading components that hurt...the gun shoots extremely soft and is more accurate than most of my customs. I adjusted the trigger to 1.5#.

My plans are to order a new 28" .300WM barrel from McGowen (prethread Savage)threaded for brake, and install a new Mag bolthead. This way, I still have the large magazine which will handle up to 3.760 COAL.

I will still be under $2K, and have a 300 WM with a good barrel.
 
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There really is nothing wrong with a Savage. I own a 300WM Savage that lives in a McMillan A5 stock and accuracy is stellar.

In this load development pic. I was testing some 185 Lapua Scenars. At 300 yards my average was .96"s. At 100 yards the average was .39".

300winaccuracytests001.jpg


That being said, I own a TRG and consider it worth every penny. I have never regretted spending the extra $$.
 
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I have shot both and the Sako IS really that much better. The 60 degree bolt throw is awesome and the action is smoother than any of my custom guns. The bolt handle on the savage is just too damn long. If you can find one, get the Sako.
 
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You'll also have some good luck getting a Remington 5R in .300 WM too. They Shoot Dam Good out of the Box! I've never shot a Savage 110BA before, but I've seen some great results.

But Remington will still give you much better aftermarket options for later upgrades. The Factory Setup for the 110BA might not be everybody's "cup of tea".

You can get a slightly "Loved" 5R .300 WM under $1,000. Sell the Factory HS Stock for $150-$200 and you'll have a $800 or less shooter to put in any Stock/Chassis you want!

With above being said, My Greatest shooting Joy/Happiness will always be my TRG (Every Penny Well Spent without Regrets)!!!
 
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well thanks guys.. I have heard that the 110BA is great and shoots well and i've heard that it doesnt compare to the TRG. I am mostly concerned with accuracy and longevity of the rifle, i dont really care that much about the bells and whistles. If I go ahead and buy the 110BA in 300wm can the rifle shoot 1 MOA groups out to 1000yds? and is the barrel quality and chrome-lined? or will I have to rebarrel it to get that kind of accuracy?

Thanks
 
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If you're talking 3,000 for the rifle only without glass, there are plenty of options out there from some of the custom shops. A Badger M2008 with a quality barrel built by any one of the sponsors here would be the a great way to go as well.
my best advice would be not to settle.
Define your specs and what you want and the plan around that. If you compromise you will only regret it in the end.
I also would recommend the Rem 5r over the Savage
Best of luck
 
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If you look hard enough I'm sure there is a 300 win TRG out there. And that is what you should do. They didn't stop producing them THAT long ago.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: strike33</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you're talking 3,000 for the rifle only without glass, there are plenty of options out there from some of the custom shops. A Badger M2008 with a quality barrel built by any one of the sponsors here would be the a great way to go as well.</div></div>
Cool, I like the Badger M2008 action with a timney trigger and would go with a Krieger barrel w/brake. And i would use a manners T-4A stock. Who would be good to have this built from?

Thanks
 
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GAP does some absolute top notch Badger work.
I'm currently having 2 300wm being built by Brad Turner at Superior Tactical Solutions and a 308 currently at Phoenix Customs.
Also check out RWS and Southern Precision, any of these guys can hook you up and all offer top notch service
 
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And on the other hand maybe I should just get the TRG in the 308... Its just that the 308 just doesnt do good at 1000yds. You have to load 190g bullets and then your velocity is like 2500fps. I guess I just like the ballistics of a 300wm better...
IDK what to do...
 
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If I go big and get the TRG in the 338 Lapua about how much per round will it cost to load my own instead of buying boxes? Boxes of 338LM are about $85 a box thats 4.25 a round!!! If I can load my own for $3 a round then ill go with the 338LM...
 
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If you haven't settled on a cartridge then you're options are endless.
What is your primary purpose for the build? tactical comp. long range hunting, target?
look into the 260 rem and 6.5 creedmore.
There are only very specific needs for somethingas big as the 338. although it is undoubtly on eof the finest long range chamberings.
The 300 can get you well beyonf 1300 with the proper rounds and for a considerable savings over the 338.
likewise the 6.5 chambers can reach well beyond 1000 and be effective for stell and paper.
give us some insight into your needs and we can steer you in a better direction.
it took me years to settle on my final build so i feel your pain. But with the amount of cash it takes to make the dream come true its better to be sure
 
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This build I would like to be 1 moa accurate at 1000yds with enough energy to be effective to hunt at that distance. although i will be primarily shooting paper I will hunt with it im sure! I am active duty and dont have the time to jack with building one component at a time. I want either to have one built or buy a rifle that will satisfy out of the box. I like 300wm/wsm they perform great accuracy and energy wise!
 
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i would stick with the 300wm then. 1/10 twist with 208 amax or the 200+ VLDs will serve you best and can be ordered direct from a few of the sponsors.
What time frame are you looking to have the rifle in hand? i'm also active duty and can understand the timeline thing.
I will have an extra 300WM completed here shortly although it will have a 1/11 teist some the 190-210 bullets will work better.
Badger has actions in stock and have the MIL sicount. Bugholes has barrels in stock. The longest wait will be the stock, you're looking at 3-5 months for that.
If you stick with a remingtom footprint action then you can bolt right up to many of the chassis available.
Phoenix is quoting about 4-5 months for complete builds and their customer service has been great.
If you have the parts in hand wait times will be considerably less
 
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I would like to order the rifle in early January. And yes the 300wm is my best choice with 200gr VLDs. I like the Badger actions but most stocks will have to be inletted to fit and I assume that is the reason for the wait time. Who makes a good rem 700 footprint action? Honestly what I want to do is fine a company that does cutom builds, give them my specs and let them do it! Know any?
 
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Defiance makes actions for most of the Top custom shops including GAP and APA as well as many others.
Pierce and Stiller are goos and a little easier on the wallet
Bighorn is highly recommended
The BAT tactical from Wolf Precision is nice.
Of course Surgeon.
The BAT, Surgeon and Mciliian will run you around 1,400 which is at the higher end.
Mcmillan, Manners and KMW will inlet their stocks for the Badger and it has a good price point but does need some careful attention when its put together.
If you're on a tight time table it may come down to which ever action yo ucan gets your hands on, I've been wait 7 or so months for my Defiance.
Any of the shops I mentioned earlier are all top notch. Phoenix has by far had the best communication and will keep you well informed on how your build is coming along.
Short Action Customs is another to look at.
I going to make a guess here and say that Bugholes (Southern Precision) has more components in stock and ready to go.
I've been happy with STS but the build is behind schedule. But in their defense he has gone above and behond to get me shooting as quickly as possible
 
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I have sent e-mails to Bugholes and Phoenix for quotes. My $3000 price range is looking more like $4500 now. Here is my specs and tell me what you think is a reasonable price.

Badger M2008 action
Kreiger match barrel in 300wm
Manners T-4a stock with detach mag floorplate
Timney trigger 2lb pull
all OD green cerakote
 
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Plan on about 1,000 for the action
325 or so for the barrel (don't get set on one barrel though..you may end up waiting. if you can get a Broughton, Bartlein, Rock...jump on whatever deal you can)
I like the APA or BAD-DBM...285
or you could go with the Manners mini chassis
The Timney isnt all that, much compared to the Jewell and Extreme trigger
If you've made up your mind about the manners then place your order as soona s possible as this is the most time consuming part of the build.
If you haven't seen the KMW Sentinel Stock check it out....kmwlrs.com
 
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I checked out the sentinel stock and love it! Not a bad price either. I think a Stiller TAC 300 action in 300wm with the sentinel stock is a good combo with a good match barrel.
 
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I like a #8 barrel contour with a surefire brake. And the bighorn action is a nice one, but it prob will come down to which one I can get first btw the bighorn and stiller. My $3000 mark is without glass,rings and bipod. But ill prob go with a Zeiss 6.5x20x50. Great clarity and I love the Rapid Z 1000 reticle.
 
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Both of those links I sent you are in stock. The Stiller will be easier to haev inletted as mcmillan, Manners, and KMW *Mcmillan have the stiller programs ready to go.
Bugholes also has the barrels. So other than the stock they have eberything you need to get started. KMW requires a50% deposit and the wait is currentky at about 5 months for the Sentinel, but thats on par for any special order stock.
 
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5 months!!! wow, i might as well go with a AICS chassis. The stiller action will bolt right up to an AICS stock for a rem 700 right?
 
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should bolt right up...
the ax is nice as well...for a couple hundred more.
the KRG whisky 3 long action is in the works and will give you the TRG look and feel as well.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ChadUSN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">. But ill prob go with a Zeiss 6.5x20x50. Great clarity and I love the Rapid Z 1000 reticle. </div></div>

loads for a win mag will not tune to that reticle - I had to slow down a 175 SMK load in a 308 to make it work even at low elevation
 
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wow very nice actions and for $1350 not too bad. But for that price I can go with a surgeon action and it is more common and probably more readily available in stock options. The question is if I go with a rem 700 footprint barreled action and an AICS stock, who will I have build it?? Or should I just order a barreled action and buy the stock myself? an AICS stock shouldn't need any modifications right?
 
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and the AICS folding stock for the 300wm is only $1100 anywhere you look...
 
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the only issue you may run into is the chassis having to be relieved for the safety lever. You might as well have the smith who is building the barreled actions install the chassis, that way they can test the system as a whole.
At this point it seems liek yo uhave everything figured out, Now it will just come down to whoever will give you the price you're looking for and complete it in the time that you need. Here they are again:
GAP
STS
Phoenix Custom
RWS
Southern Precision
Short action Customs
American Precision Arms
Louisiana Precision

There are many other trusted names out there but these are the ones that you will come across mos often.
Let us know how it goes
 
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i'll get a Remington 5R for $1K then nuy a KRG Whiskey3 stock....then u will be good! Also, with Remy, you will have more more more choices of STUFF to add on.
 
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well the remington 5r isnt made to match grade tolerances, i'm not trying to go factory on this build!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: strike33</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the only issue you may run into is the chassis having to be relieved for the safety lever. You might as well have the smith who is building the barreled actions install the chassis, that way they can test the system as a whole.
At this point it seems liek yo uhave everything figured out, Now it will just come down to whoever will give you the price you're looking for and complete it in the time that you need. Here they are again:
GAP
STS
Phoenix Custom
RWS
Southern Precision
Short action Customs
American Precision Arms
Louisiana Precision

There are many other trusted names out there but these are the ones that you will come across mos often.
Let us know how it goes</div></div>
Thanks again man for all of your help you have helped tremondously! now I'll wait on the best quote...
 
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I might throw a wrench in the works with my $.02, but the TRG has the features of several "custom" actions put together, side bolt release, lug area/design, integral dovetail for scope mount, quick do it yourself barrel change, one of if not <span style="font-style: italic">the</span> best triggers available, and I am finding the steel that Sako uses in their barrel to be as remarkable as the Border? barrels AI uses, their stocks are as adjustable as they come, and the flush fitting 7rd TRG mags destroy the AI mags imho.
Your retained value may also be typically greater with the TRG as the 300wm is not currently being imported into the US (supposedly still made, just not imported??)
I think if the TRG fits you very well, go that way, if not- any of the other routes you are looking at can perform to the same level.
You may be pleasantly surprised what pops up for sale as Christmas bills pile up.
 
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Very true the TRG really cant be beat in my opinion, but I cant bank on finding one in a 300wm so I'll plan a comparable build i guess.
 
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So... what scope can i get for $1000? I want to go with a 6.5x20x50, emphasize on clarity and reticle usage
 
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With the your active duty status, Leupold will give you some great deals with their MIL/LEO purchase program.
I would save a little more cash and get a good pre-owned Nightforce 5.5-22. Some great deals poop up here in the for sale section.
Also look at the Vortex Razor HD 5-20
and the SWFA 5-20
 
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Are you up in Jacksonville? I'm down at SOUTHCOM until mid January. You should try snd make it to Swat roundup in Orlando Dec 2-7. Gonna be a great show. I'll have my STS built 300wm you can check out to get some ideas.
Shoot me a PM. I'm going to have either a PWS or RD brake left over. ( I told STS to use which ever they though looked best so I dont know which one) I'll let you have it if you're not set on the surefire.
Best of luck with the build
 
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Gotta set a couple things straight here. Yall are adding up the cost of the components and wonder why your build quote was high. It's called labor. You think they're gonna order all your shit and put it together for free? And yes, you're gonna wait. Get used to it. Nothing custom built happens fast.

Secondly, what the hell are you gonna do with this rifle? You're letting available options dictate your choices and that's bass ackwards. What is the purpose of this weapon? Do you really NEED a 300WM? Is terminal ballistics an issue? What are you hunting? Are you only punching paper? If so, how far and in what capacity? Are you gonna shoot off a bench, prone, positional, or tactical-type shooting and moving? Is weight a concern? What kind of weather and environments will this weapon be exposed to?

You two have gone back and forth for 2 pages and have made exactly zero progress. Take a step back, figure out what you want to get outta this weapon and we can help you from there. If you're kicking tires and you don't know what you want, stop wasting our time.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ChadUSN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So... what scope can i get for $1000? I want to go with a 6.5x20x50, emphasize on clarity and reticle usage</div></div>

I would Highly Recommend the Bushnell HDMR 3.5-20x50mm Scope with the G2 Ret. It's probably one of the best bang for the buck out there. And if you search around, this scope has been widely accepted in LE/Mil/Comp Circle. Many Comp Winner won with this scope on the rifle, and Check out the GAP Video Thread, they used this Exact Scope in ALL of their Videos. If you shop around you can get a fairly decent used one for around $1k.

Got Two of These on my Rifles from Liberty Optics (Scott will definitely treat you right). If you ever see one in person you'll know it built like a dam TANK!

Cheers!

HOG
 
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[THEBEARRRRRRJEW...if you think that we are wasting your time then move in. Don't reply with nothing but hostility when you contributed nothing to this to this topic. How ssbout instead of criticism you help with some advice. No one here was under the impression that and build would be cheap or labor free. Very few people are experts and I certainly appreciate any and all constructive help that I can find. You my friend don't meet any of that
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: strike33</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[THEBEARRRRRRJEW...if you think that we are wasting your time then move in. Don't reply with nothing but hostility when you contributed nothing to this to this topic. How ssbout instead of criticism you help with some advice. No one here was under the impression that and build would be cheap or labor free. Very few people are experts and I certainly appreciate any and all constructive help that I can find. You my friend don't meet any of that </div></div>

Like I said, answer the questions and we'd be glad to help. Sorry your feelings get hurt so easily. Get over it.