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INTRODUCING the new Accubond Long Range

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Bend, Ore. – October 31, 2012 – Nosler, Inc. is pleased to announce the release of their new line of AccuBond® Long Range bullets. Developed through a combination of bullet manufacturing techniques that are unique to Nosler, the design of the AccuBond®-LR allows for the highest B.C. possible in a bullet of the same caliber and weight. Designed with an optimum performance window ranging from 3,200fps to 1,300fps, the unique tapered jacket geometry and proprietary
bonding process of the AccuBond®-LR allow it to expand rapidly for effective energy transfer and significant tissue damage while retaining sufficient weight to ensure deep penetration into the vitals. The AccuBond® bonding process allows the AccuBond®-LR to perform reliably on game throughout the entire velocity range, eliminating the problem of being “too close” often encountered with other high-B.C. bullets. The high-performance boat tail, long ogive, and polymer tip combine to make the AccuBond®-LR the sleekest, flattest- shooting, bonded, hunting bullet ever created. The ogive of the AccuBond®-LR is designed to provide excellent accuracy in a wide variety of firearms without the necessity of being loaded close to or in contact with the lands. The new AccuBond®-LR will be packaged in 100 count boxes, and will initially be available in the following calibers and weights.

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These are awesome! Nosler is going to take the long range market by storm.
Way to go Nosler.
 
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Awesome, just what I have been searching for.
 
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Any idea on when they will be available to the public?
 
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That 270 bullet is looking good to me. I hope they get some info on their website soon. I would like to know the length.
 
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Those are some impressive BC's. it will be interesting to see if they a true.
 
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Sweet, Just built a 6.5x55 that loves the current 130 AB`s. Hopefully it will like these new ones just as much. Have about 5 rifles that those will be loaded in!!!
 
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Awesome... I will be watching for them.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bward</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Those are some impressive BC's. it will be interesting to see if they a true.</div></div>

Agreed, all look a little optimistic but I would be willing to test them.
 
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yeah... a Nosler .30 cal 190gn hunting bullet with a higher BC than a Berger .30 cal 210 gn LR BT or a Hornady 208gn A-Max...

Interesting if true, but I'm inclined to think the marketing dept. got behind the BC numbers and *pushed*
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Yeah, but what will the price be on these. IMO, Nosler's are a bit on the pricey side already. If they're coming out with something new, will I even be able to afford to shoot them. LOL.
 
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Holy shit. That 210gr with g7 of .366 is higher than a 250gr 338 Lapua bullet. If you can drive that bullet 2950-3000 ft/sec from a 300 win mag you almost have a 338 Lapua performance for significantly cheaper than what it would cost to load the 338 Lapua.
 
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I'll be looking forward to this to see if their stated BC's are real. If they are, I will definitely pick up the 210gr. 30 cal and 175gr. 7mm to play with.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bward</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Those are some impressive BC's. it will be interesting to see if they a true. </div></div>

This.

We'll see, but I'm not holding my breath.
 
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That 7mm 150gr looks like a cruise missile for the .280.
 
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I am not sure why everybody doubts this company and their advertised numbers. Nosler is not some mama pop company that just started yesterday they are extremely reputable and they would not want to ruin the reputation. They know the shooter community is not stupid and those numbers would be found to be false shortly after being released so why even test faith that way?
 
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Disappointed not to see any .338 offerings.

Expensive to shoot but I don't look at NAB's as range fodder; they are for killing big game really well.
 
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Cause advertised BC:s are some what like the sizes of photo models, never quite accurate, still ought to be really good values on those there bullets.

I for one is going ti give the 129 grain 6,5 mm bullet a spin if and when I can get hold of them.

/CHris
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: alpha6164</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am not sure why everybody doubts this company and their advertised numbers. Nosler is not some mama pop company that just started yesterday they are extremely reputable and they would not want to ruin the reputation. They know the shooter community is not stupid and those numbers would be found to be false shortly after being released so why even test faith that way? </div></div>

Here are a couple reasons for the doubt:

1. Bryan Litz's testing indicated the true BC of nearly every Nosler was less than claimed.

2. Some of those claimed BCs above <span style="font-weight: bold">FAR!!!</span> exceed the BCs of current best-in-class premium bullets.

If an auto-manufacturer came out and said their new car had a Cd of .15, there would be a lot of doubts, considering current best-in-class vehicles like the Corvette are at ~.28-.32 zone.

We'll see.
 
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Here's my reply to this same announcement on another forum:

First, this is very exciting news for long range hunters who prefer a bonded bullet. The original Accubonds are good bullets, but with their relatively short noses and essentially non-existing boat tails, they just didn't have the BC's for long range. However these new LR Accubonds look much better designed for BC.

Having said that, I have to apply the sanity check to the advertised BC's. Consider the G7 form factor (noted as i7 and explained in more detail here: http://02b0516.netsolhost.com/blog1/2011/05/16/form-factors-a-useful-analysis-tool/)

The form factor is basically the component of BC that describes a bullets drag in relation to a standard, lower is better.

The lowest form factor (lowest drag) bullets I've ever tested are in the neighborhood of 0.89. On average, Berger VLD's have form factors in the .92-.95 range which is quite good and results in high BC's.

The G7 BC's cited in the announcement imply the G7 form factors listed below. As you can see, some of them are quite low. I tend to question any claims that imply form factors below .90. After all, of the 100's of bullets I've tested, there's only been 4 or 5 that have actually had form factors below .90 and those have been radical designs, often requiring non-standard twists.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Code:</div><div class="ubbcode-body ubbcode-pre" ><pre>
Cal weight G7 BC i7
0.264 129 0.285 0.928
0.277 150 0.317 0.881
0.284 150 0.309 0.860
0.284 168 0.353 0.843
0.284 175 0.364 0.852
0.308 190 0.325 0.880
0.308 210 0.366 0.864
</pre></div></div>
I haven't tested these bullets yet, so I can't say for sure if the claimed BC's are accurate or not. For now I'll say congrats to Nosler on offering a bonded bullet geared more for LR hunters. I'll report back when I've done some BC testing.

Take care,
-Bryan
 
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From what I understand all popular factory twists were taken into consideration before bullets were designed.

Hence the 129 6.5mm and not a 140...yet at least. Performance on game will be AB identical.
Feel free to contact Nosler with all tech ?????

1-800-285-3701. Fax: 541-388-4667
 
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Nosler makes some great bullets, but I think they are a little to proud of them. I believe they are a little overpriced now.

Kc
 
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Hmmm I wonder which will be available first in 6.5mm

Berger's Classic Hunter

or

These Nosler Accubond LRs

Bullet Wars!!!
 
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Berger is coming out with an elite hunter not a classic for the 6.5. It will be a streatched out ojive for max bc like on the target hybrid. This info from Berger directly. I suspect it will be very similar if not identical to the 140 target hybrid and they will also have a 130 offering.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ugsly</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nosler makes some great bullets, but I think they are a little to proud of them. I believe they are a little overpriced now.

Kc </div></div>

+1 I like the Accubond and it is a great hunting bullet but they are expensive.
 
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If they are what they claim then this ought to be good. Like to see what B.Litz says once he checks them out.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jeffersonv</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Midway USA says 'ready to ship' on the Berger Classic Hunter.

http://www.midwayusa.com/find?userSearchQuery=Berger+Classic+Hunter

They look pretty sweet.

Looking forward to the Noslers. I built up some pretty good confidence in the NAB's and these ALR's look nice. </div></div>

The Classic Hunters have been out since mid August. The 338 Elite Hunters have been out since early Sept.

The rest of the Elite hunters are on hold for the time being....so I would think Nosler might be in drivers seat. But, then..............they took two years to the 6MM 90gr AB out. Their 7MM Custom Comp. bullets are nowhere to be found. But, perhaps.............
 
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The window is wide open for Berger right now for an Elite/Classic Hybrid Hunter for 6.5mm.

I for one would say that if one came out before the other AND it shot to expectation in my rifle that I wouldn't have a need to look the others way.

BB
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sgtusmc_nc</div><div class="ubbcode-body">any idea when the accubonds will hit the market
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According to various sources, March 2013, but like most release dates in this industry, that is subject to change.
 
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Would also be interested to see if they are designed similar to the original AB's or if they upped the toughness to retain more weight.
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(NOT whining just wondering, I've used the originals with success and they did exactly as they were designed to do all retaining over the 65% of original weight.)
 
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I'm pretty sure that 30 cal 190 is a long one, any idea what the min twist rate to stabilize a bullet like that?
 
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The local Nosler Rep fresh from NSGWA get together in FL believes that a MORE realistic phased in to the distribution system is more like mid 2nd Quarter, not the end of the 1st Qtr.
 
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This is such good news for multi use loads. I realize that competition bullets tend to be cheaper than "hunting" style bonded bullets; however, I've always wanted to build up one load that can be used for both. Will Nosler buck the trend and offer these at a better price point than their current AB line? Not sure but the announcement says they will come in 100ct boxes which is unusual since the rest of their AB line tend to come in 50ct boxes, and makes me wonder if they intend these to be used for more than just hunting.

Obviously we have to wait, see and play. The BC's are out of this world and I'd love to see that they are pretty close; however, more important is their accuracy. Having a bullet that's designed for hunting and only .018" longer than the 208 Amax with a significantly higher BC (if it holds true) would be fantastic but only if it can keep groups tight at LR.

The 190 might even be more interesting, with an OAL of .030 shorter than the 200gr AB, but with a significantly higher BC that comes almost neck and neck with the 208 Amax, but at 18gr less in bullet weight, this too could prove to be the ideal LR hunting/target combo.

If only Nosler would come out with a Ballistic Tip-LR line that matches the AB but without a bonded core (don't need that for shooting paper and steel) at half the price, now that would be ideal!

I can't wait to play with these in my 300 WSM...

I just spoke with Nosler about these and they told me they are still on target for a Q1 2013 release.
 
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I've had outstanding results on paper with the Accubonds in my .260 and my son's .300WSM. These look interesting. I'll have to compare the 6.5's to the Barnes LRX.
 
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HoytFlinger, if you look at the last sentence of the announcement it says "will initially be available in the following calibers and weights", this indicates to me they plan on other calibers and weights. So no .338 for now, but my guess is you'll see it coming soon after. It only makes sense, they are designing these bullets for LR and the .338 is definitely a LR round!
 
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I know there are many that have had great success with the Accubond but I am not one of them. I tried them in three different calibers with similar results which was mediocre accuracy with all three calibers with more effort required for load development to get to mediocre accuracy.

There are just to many bullets that perform as well or better for less money.
I really wanted them to work for me but in the end I had much better results with less effort from other bullets.

I hope the LR Accubond delivers to the hype for those that put their money down for them.