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Larue predatar 7.62 vs others

Hunter24

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I have a dpms now and looking for little higher end. Have been debating the lmt mws also. Larue is lighter weight and available in 18". Any pros and cons for either? Thanks
 
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My LMT MWS is a tank.... even when I compare it to my 20" OBR....

The LMT shoots great, but if you plan on humping this rifle for an extended time.... discomfort will soon follow. I think the Larue predatar would serve you well. Both are well built systems and will offer a solid platform to enjoy.

if you do get the LMT, send your barrel to ADCO and get it reprofiled....

best of luck with your decision.
 
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Can you comment on accuracy of both? How well do they hold up at 600 to 800 yards?
 
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I have printed numerous sub moa groups with my OBR (pre fluted chamber) and have placed in the top 5 in a couple LR courses that i attended this year. The OBR flat out shoots.

The LMT is great rifle as well.... I've made consistant hits with it out to 700 m with a bipod and sand sock. If you ever want to extend your range, 6.5 barrels are an option for later down the road.

I've seen the LMT's go for $2200 (lightly used gen 2's) and for that price, it should be hard to pass.
 
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I've taken my OBR out to 1245 m with great results.... the little gas gun can shoot.
 
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The obr is a bit outside my price range right now. That's why I was looking at the predatar and lmt. Are you hand loading or shooting match ammo?
 
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There are about a 1000 posts on this subject can't go wrong with either, you'll have fanboys of them all. I have a gap10 and its easily a sub 1/2 Moa rifle and will print 3/8 Moa very regularly. The OBR's I've seen are great as well as the MWS. LMT to win the Brits contract had to shoot all ammo sub Moa so they put a really heavy barrel on it, flute it or reprofile it's a great gun as well. Can't go wrong with either but my top choice is a gap10
 
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I'l keep my eyes out for 2nd gen lmt mws. Seems like good deals go super fast on this site though.
 
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What's the going rate for a gap10? Saw one in the classifieds I think.
 
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I roll my own... never spent much time (or any) with factory loads.
 
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Check out ar-15.com for the LMT's they pop up quite a bit over there as well...
 
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That's what real shooters do I'm learning. Just getting started with reloading. Have everything but a tumbler and chrono.
 
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Is the lmt available in 18"? I'm sure I could look it up but you guys seem very knowledgeable
 
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save your money on the chrono... confirm your MV by using a ballistic calculator and tweaking your data until it all aligns with actual data (true your dope card).
 
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you'll pay for the 18" SS barrel.... find a 16" CL for $2200-$2300 and use the other $600 to get another barrel rather then shelling out the $2800 for a SS barrel...
 
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the GAP's pop for here from time to time, most people keep em. the wait is no longer then it is most of the time for a OBR. the MWS will be the fastest one to find new. its all in what you are looking for.
 
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What barrel do you recommend?
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong but the GAPs use Bartlein barrel (which are regarded as the best)...

I'd get the factory 16" chrome line barrel for the MWS and save up for a 6.5 creed or 260 rem for LR plinking. Now that you reload, multiple calibers is no longer a big issue.
 
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Not a big issue but I have several rounds for the 308. Saving them for a rainy day I guess.
 
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I have a gap10 with two uppers one in 308 and one in 6cm. Works well.
 
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Is there a significant price difference between gap and larue?
 
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As BigJoe stated.... the GAP semi should be considered. George and the gang smith a fine rifle... lots of good options out there for ya (and resale is a given... ie you'll get your money back should you decide to go another route down the road).
 
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Depends how you spec them out... but I believe they're both around $2600...
 
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I will definitely look them up. I know they make great precision bolt rigs.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Depends how you spec them out... but I believe they're both around $2600... </div></div>

OBRs haven't started at 2600 in a LOONNNGGG Time. I believe they *start* at 3370 now according to Larue's website.
 
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are you going to hunt with this new rifle??? if so, then the predatAR might be the way to go, but you're going to spend a premium for it and might give up a little bit of accuracy.....

rock river makes one hell of a rifle IMO for the money...

if all you're doing to driving holes into paper from a bench or prone with a bipod and sandbag,,,, then you might want to look into a rifle with a heavy bull barrel.

my LMT is a tank and is a sub-moa rifle. Can't go wrong with a LMT either.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Poison123</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: K_4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Depends how you spec them out... but I believe they're both around $2600... </div></div>

OBRs haven't started at 2600 in a LOONNNGGG Time. I believe they *start* at 3370 now according to Larue's website. </div></div>

he's looking at a predatar... not a OBR.
 
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I am looking at predatar because price point.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elfster1234</div><div class="ubbcode-body">are you going to hunt with this new rifle??? if so, then the predatAR might be the way to go, but you're going to spend a premium for it and might give up a little bit of accuracy.....

rock river makes one hell of a rifle IMO for the money...

if all you're doing to driving holes into paper from a bench or prone with a bipod and sandbag,,,, then you might want to look into a rifle with a heavy bull barrel.

my LMT is a tank and is a sub-moa rifle. Can't go wrong with a LMT either.

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Nice rig. Looks much better than my dpms.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Middle one
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Man, nice rifles there. What rail is on it? Looks like seekins?
 
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I'll be shooting steel and paper mostly. May carry it hunting every now and then.
 
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if you're going to hunt with this rifle,,,,,,,, then i would bet this rock river would be just as accurate if not more than the predatAR, and would have a 20" stainless cryo treated barrel to boot and only cost you $1300 to $1400 dollars. http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=402


IF ALL YOU'RE DOING IS PUNCHING HOLES IN PAPER, then just because a rifle is more expensive doesn't make it more accurate. I would put my $1200 dollar EOP rock river up against a larue 5.56 obr $2250 dollar rifle anyday in terms of accuracy:

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Nope they are the same maker who makes em for pof. Gap is a di gun. I'm not taking away from LMT or Larue both are nice weapons. I shot a gap10 of George's a year or so ago and it was every bit as accurate as my bolt guns. I sold two ar10's that were both shooters and replaced em with my gap10 cannot recommend em enough.
 
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That's what I'm looking for. Precision semi auto. Any idea on lead time?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elfster1234</div><div class="ubbcode-body">if you're going to hunt with this rifle,,,,,,,, then i would bet this rock river would be just as accurate if not more than the predatAR, and would have a 20" stainless cryo treated barrel to boot and only cost you $1300 to $1400 dollars. http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=402


IF ALL YOU'RE DOING IS PUNCHING HOLES IN PAPER, then just because a rifle is more expensive doesn't make it more accurate. I would put my $1200 dollar EOP rock river up against a larue 5.56 obr $2250 dollar rifle anyday in terms of accuracy:

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Well that puts a new spin on things. I could be into another ar10 and good optic for less than the others? Do you own lar8?
 
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Do the Rra accept pmags?
 
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<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="color: #FF0000">if its going to be mostly a 95% paper punching target rifle</span></span></span>, then you might want to read this whole forum section and learn a thing or two:

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3523625#Post3523625

Never under estimate the power of a good bull barrel AR while keeping the cartridge you pick (.308, .223, 6.5 creed, 260 blah blah blah) in the back of your mind.... Barrel heat build up is a real BITCH and a nice bull barrel really helps with this issue. You're groups will go to hell after 10rounds with the predarAR in a heartbeat due to the light barrel. I would stick with .223 or .308 if you don't reload or if ammo $$$ is an issue..... would really consider 6creed, 6.5, or 260 if you do reload especially if you might go the custom AR route... Just keep in mind that the .308 AR is prob one of most non-accurate of the "large cartridge" AR's FYI. You should be happy if you're a consistant sub-moa shooter with a 7.62 / 308 AR. Most 7.62 / .308 AR, regardless of brand name, and yes this goes for larue AND gap, is going to be a 1.25 to 1moa rifle, and sub moa dependant upon the person doing the shooting. I would be really happy if you can CONSISTANTLY shoot .75 5shot groups with a 7.62 / 308.


IMO, this $1400 rifle will out-shoot any $3k OBR, especially if you get lucky with a diamond in the rough rock river barrel, BUT would only go this route if rifle weight is NOT an issue... ONLY for paper punching target shooting: http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=257


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hunter24</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'll be shooting steel and paper mostly. May carry it hunting every now and then. </div></div>
 
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Elf your fucking high as I consistently shoot 1/2 Moa with my gap 10, I've seen MWS and OBR shoot sub sub 3/4 Moa with m118 across the board. People do not give the platform credit. It's the driver as your form is critical shooting a gasser. Much more then a bolt so many people have poor fundamentals and can't shoot em so they go back to the bolts and blame the gun.
 
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Hmm. Now that's got me really thinking.
 
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Well put your money where your mouth is BigDick, and post a 6group, 5shot entry big man.. Enough BS and walk the walk big boy!!: http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3523625#Post3523625

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Elf your fucking high as I consistently shoot 1/2 Moa with my gap 10, I've seen MWS and OBR shoot sub sub 3/4 Moa with m118 across the board. People do not give the platform credit. It's the driver as your form is critical shooting a gasser. Much more then a bolt so many people have poor fundamentals and can't shoot em so they go back to the bolts and blame the gun. </div></div>
 
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Last time I checked, I'm still the standing 7.62 cartridge leader... so knock me off my block you bad ass. Then tell me I'm "fucking high".

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3523625#Post3523625


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Elf your fucking high as I consistently shoot 1/2 Moa with my gap 10, I've seen MWS and OBR shoot sub sub 3/4 Moa with m118 across the board. People do not give the platform credit. It's the driver as your form is critical shooting a gasser. Much more then a bolt so many people have poor fundamentals and can't shoot em so they go back to the bolts and blame the gun. </div></div>
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Elf your fucking high as I consistently shoot 1/2 Moa with my gap 10, I've seen MWS and OBR shoot sub sub 3/4 Moa with m118 across the board. People do not give the platform credit. It's the driver as your form is critical shooting a gasser. Much more then a bolt so many people have poor fundamentals and can't shoot em so they go back to the bolts and blame the gun. </div></div>

Interesting as well. I've shot several .5 inch groups with my cheap dpms but its usually around moa.
 
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Didn't mean to cause any problems. Just wanted some good friendly advice
 
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It's no problem Hunter24... BigJoe is prob one of those guys that says he shoots 1/2" MOA all day long with this 7.62 OBR also... Not saying it isn't possible and i'll eat my words, but most people like this are full of BS.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hunter24</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Didn't mean to cause any problems. Just wanted some good friendly advice </div></div>
 
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Hunter 24, I took delivery of my new LaRue 7.62 OBR about six weeks ago,topped off with a Nite Force 3.5 x 15 x50 mm MLR w/zero stop and FFP.I can not tell you how much I love this gun and how it shoots. As to comparing the Rock River to the LaRue not even close, not in the same league.You will be very happy if you get one.
 
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tell me something I don't know.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Elf your fucking high as I consistently shoot 1/2 Moa with my gap 10, I've seen MWS and OBR shoot sub sub 3/4 Moa with m118 across the board. People do not give the platform credit. It's the driver as your form is critical shooting a gasser. Much more then a bolt so many people have poor fundamentals and can't shoot em so they go back to the bolts and blame the gun. </div></div>
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elfster1234</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's no problem Hunter24... BigJoe is prob one of those guys that says he shoots 1/2" MOA all day long with this 7.62 OBR also... Not saying it isn't possible and i'll eat my words, but most people like this are full of BS.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hunter24</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Didn't mean to cause any problems. Just wanted some good friendly advice </div></div> </div></div>

Be careful what you ask for.
 
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I'm not saying the LaRue isn't a bad ass rifle as it really is an AWESOME rifle.... If you're going for a very well built rifle, crazy dependable, and looks are really important, then get the OBR... All i'm saying is spending loads of money on a rifle doesn't make it more accurate.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fire fighter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hunter 24, I took delivery of my new LaRue 7.62 OBR about six weeks ago,topped off with a Nite Force 3.5 x 15 x50 mm MLR w/zero stop and FFP.I can not tell you how much I love this gun and how it shoots. As to comparing the Rock River to the LaRue not even close, not in the same league.You will be very happy if you get one. </div></div>
 
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I think there is a load of people on this forum know that I don't talk any BS. I just like to see people walk the walk before they talk the talk. I'll get BigJoe on the boards with his Larue in a second if he can get the 1/2moa all day long crown like he said. ONLY ONE PERSON has done it with a semi-auto AR, and there is no reason why I can't put a 2nd runner up on the 1/2 moa crown holder... Walk the walk, enough of the talk:

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3523625#Post3523625


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Guy Montag</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elfster1234</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's no problem Hunter24... BigJoe is prob one of those guys that says he shoots 1/2" MOA all day long with this 7.62 OBR also... Not saying it isn't possible and i'll eat my words, but most people like this are full of BS.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hunter24</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Didn't mean to cause any problems. Just wanted some good friendly advice </div></div> </div></div>

Be careful what you ask for. </div></div>