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M1A vs Ar-10, am I too infatuated with the M1A?

Kilo-Sierra

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I traded for an M1A a while back, and I love it. Shoots great, reliable, accurate etc etc. Love the irons on it, just like my Garand. Here's my dilemma, I want/need a scoped gun for long range shooting. As much as I like the M1A I am wondering if i wouldn't be better served by going to an AR-10 style gun, or even just a bolt gun, but I really want a semi-auto. The plan right now is with my Tax return after the first of the year to get the scope, and mount and things that I need to use the M1A in that role. My M1A is about a 1 MOA gun so far with my loads, so I am happy with it's performance. Just knocking around the idea of a gun like an R-25 or something similar and wanted some feedback. Looking at more what I want the gun to do, as opposed to what I 'like" if you get my drift. Anyone have an R-25 or similar AR-10? or know what they get accuracy wise? or just general suggestions.
 
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I've got a scoped M1A... Personally, I don't like it. It's like it just wasn't meant to have a scope on it so you're always battling (solid mount, cheek weld/comb height, eye relief in conjunction with the rear sight, etc). I MUCH prefer bolt guns, but if you must have semi-auto, I think the AR is just a better platform for long range. In my opinion, the M1A is good for what it was designed for, I just don't think it was designed for precision shooting...
 
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Well, I haven't ruled out the bolt gun idea. The extra cash it would free up would allow better optics and such...
 
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I find shooting a bolt gun to be a hell of a lot more enjoyable than any semi-auto, but that's just me. Not trying to tell you what to do, but you should do that
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If you have an M1A that shoots 1 moa with irons never get rid of it.It will surely shoot better with a scope.I have owned several M1As over the years.You either like them or not.I carried 1 in Iraq for 6 months so you know i bet my life on it.I have had good luck with the arms 18 mount.It is a low mount and It wont break the bank.I also have and AR10 platform.It is hit and miss on the low end guns with accuracy.The high end guns usually shoot better but they are high.With the M1A and the AR10 i have good days and bad days at the range.You spoke of a bolt gun.I almost never have a bad day at the range with a bolt gun.Long range shooting is easier with a bolt gun to me.I have a friend that had his M1A with him one day when we were shooting 800yds.He hit the target at 800 just like we did.It all boils down to what you like.I will never be without an M1A.I may not shoot it every time i go to the range but i will have it when the mood strikes to shoot one.I say scope it and see how she does.
 
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If you like the M1a platform and want to shoot long range get a supermatch or custom. If you try to upgrade a cheaper model you'll drop a lot of money into it and won't be happy. It will go to 1000 yards easily. I took JamieD's 3 day long range class with an M21 and won top gun 2 of the 3 days, just missed on the 3rd day. One day was for shooting plates out to 800 yards, the second day for the best 100 yard 5 shot zero group and cold bore shot. It hit steel all weekend out to 1000 yards as well or better than anything else. I had the only semi, everyone else had bolt guns.
 
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The AR will make a much better scoped target platform than the M1A. But if by long range you mean a 30" wide steel gong then you won't notice the accuracy difference.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kilo-Sierra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I traded for an M1A a while back, and I love it. Shoots great, reliable, accurate etc etc. Love the irons on it, just like my Garand. Here's my dilemma, I want/need a scoped gun for long range shooting. As much as I like the M1A I am wondering if i wouldn't be better served by going to an AR-10 style gun, or even just a bolt gun, but I really want a semi-auto. The plan right now is with my Tax return after the first of the year to get the scope, and mount and things that I need to use the M1A in that role. My M1A is about a 1 MOA gun so far with my loads, so I am happy with it's performance. Just knocking around the idea of a gun like an R-25 or something similar and wanted some feedback. Looking at more what I want the gun to do, as opposed to what I 'like" if you get my drift. Anyone have an R-25 or similar AR-10? or know what they get accuracy wise? or just general suggestions. </div></div>

This depends on your interests. The AR10 was designed to shoot 7.62x51.. the Ar was not so there's been issues.

*IF* you really want to push the M1A, 1 MOA is not great.. they can do better, I've been doing it for 37 years. I prefer steel and wood.

One more note, with my first Devine, I shot that thing all the way out to 1000 yards on a regular basis with 1) M118 and 2) my Palma handload. Never shot less then 80% of score on my worst day and an old friend shot 198 out of 200 (1000 yards) at Perry with an M1A and Iron sights.
 
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08Cayenne said:
If you like the M1a platform and want to shoot long range get a supermatch or custom. If you try to upgrade a cheaper model you'll drop a lot of money into it and won't be happy.

Not true, next year everyone will see how to do it.

I've outshot a Supermatch with a Standard grade and handloads. Working on an M1A is not hard, just takes patience. I learned that in 1975. biggest cost of upgrading an M1A is the barrel, I use Kreiger as do most of my friends. Biggest trick is glass bedding and I use what I know works and stands up to semi auto punishment. My first (Devine 2070) shot out 2 and 1/2 barrels without touching the bedding. In those days only NM barrels were the USGI NM barrels. Changing the barrel is not a big deal depending on what receiver you have.
 
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J-Ham said:
I've got a scoped M1A... Personally, I don't like it. It's like it just wasn't meant to have a scope on it so you're always battling (solid mount, cheek weld/comb height, eye relief in conjunction with the rear sight, etc).

1) change the scope mount to suit you
2) Get a McMillan M3A stock, superb for scope mounted M1As. But they have to be bedded. Mass of stock and cross section of the butt pad makes shooting the M1A a pussycat. It is heavier, but I do like them.

Ought to solve your issues.

Yes, I've made custom cheek pads, but that's usually for a favor. There are custom wood stocks with adjustable cheek pads, but I hear they're expensive. Worst scope mount ever had to contend with with the REAL G&H M14 mount, I used the Garand cheek pad until I figured out how to mount one that looks nice.

But there are also plenty of plastic easy mount cheek pads.
 
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I kicked around the idea of the M1A for a while, price wise it just didn't make much sense to me. I suppose if you just have to have it then its a great rifle, I used them in the Military and although they can be a bit front heavy IMO they can be very accurate when cared for.
I am no AR fan boy though. I know the problems that platform has from experience and just don't like them overall. so I went with something completely different... still have yet to have time for the range lately. well that and a busted tractor..
 
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Love my M1A and wouldn't trade it for nothing. I bought it used at a gander mountain and shot it to hell. Then rebuilt it from the ground up in a sage stock and suppressed it. Absolutely pleasant to go shoot her now.
 
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Don't ask what I have into my M21, it's substantial. I wouldn't have done it if I didn't love the rifle. Accuracy wise it holds it's own and with an adjustable riser scoping it is not an issue. A bedded rifle can be the most accurate, but a rifle that isn't bedded properly can make for bad accuracy. So many people go with options like Sage for instance. Not many armorers with that expertise anymore. There are some though and anyone of them can build a great rifle for you. I believe the greatest thing a person needs to over come with an M1a is expecting everything you do is going to have a positive affect. It often doesn't work that way. The rifle is as individual as we are human. Now it isn't to say, "whoop there it is" isn't going to be very good, but great comes with experimentation. You can easily pull your hair out. A great deal of commitment is needed. One of the reasons I find the rifle platform fun. Many AR owners and some M1a owners don't see it that way and rather have instant satisfaction.

If in fact you already have a 1 moa rifle, that is great. Your rifle is well on it's way. I started with a 4 moa rifle at best. I rebuilt it into a more respectable .5/.75 moa rifle. It's extremely hard to squeak more than .5moa out of one, but on rare occasions I've seen it with better shooters and hand loads.

To each his own, the M1a isn't every man's rifle, but it is for me. I love my rifle. I'd be buried with it if I didn't love a friend of mine more.
 
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Yes it is true, nothing will change next year.

Go buy a loaded or standard, buy, headspace, and change the barrel, buy a good stock, bed it, get a good tuned match trigger, unitize it, new piston and guide rod, pay an armorer for everything, and ship it across the country a couple times. I've done it, it's expensive. Just buy a Supermatch or have a custom LRB built and it's done, it ends up being cheaper and more accurate. I guarantee you, in the real world, you won't outshoot me with a Standard. Maybe you can in your book world.



<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rojkoh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
08Cayenne said:
If you like the M1a platform and want to shoot long range get a supermatch or custom. If you try to upgrade a cheaper model you'll drop a lot of money into it and won't be happy.

Not true, next year everyone will see how to do it.

I've outshot a Supermatch with a Standard grade and handloads. Working on an M1A is not hard, just takes patience. I learned that in 1975. biggest cost of upgrading an M1A is the barrel, I use Kreiger as do most of my friends. Biggest trick is glass bedding and I use what I know works and stands up to semi auto punishment. My first (Devine 2070) shot out 2 and 1/2 barrels without touching the bedding. In those days only NM barrels were the USGI NM barrels. Changing the barrel is not a big deal depending on what receiver you have. </div></div>
 
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I love my M1A. It's sub-MOA to 600 (max tested) and it looks like pure sex on a stick, BUT my AR-10 platform is a better rifle. I'd almost argue to keep the M1A. AR-10 platforms can be found used cheap and it's worth skipping a meal here and there to own both.

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Oh come on 08Cayenne, Robbie could have done it. Of course this doesn't mean the Supermatch didn't have a shot out barrel or some catastrophic issue or even a bad shooter behind the trigger. You gotta leave out some of the facts if you want to build a great story. Also, you notice how his great claims all revolve around equipment and bullets you can't get anymore? Interesting, isn't it?

I completely agree though, if accuracy is your number one goal, buy it already built for it. I too have done the ship it all over and buy a bunch of parts game, it gets expensive fast.

Get the scope you'd want with either rifle, reasonable rings (better quality rings are easier to sell if you need to change them later), a Bassett low picatinny mount (on the inexpensive side, but still good quality), and a cheek riser. This way you're not in too much if you decide a scoped M1A isn't for you. You should be able to sell the mount and rings pretty easy with minimal loss and move to an AR or bolt action with a scope you already have and like.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rojkoh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">1) change the scope mount to suit you
2) Get a McMillan M3A stock, superb for scope mounted M1As. But they have to be bedded. Mass of stock and cross section of the butt pad makes shooting the M1A a pussycat. It is heavier, but I do like them.</div></div>
Yeah, you're right... There are things I could do to mine to try to improve it. It's in a standard McMillan M1A stock, but not bedded. It's just not high on my priority list, but now you've got me thinking about it again... Maybe I should go drag it out
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Both are diferent animals and I proudly own both.

The 308's
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kilo-Sierra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I traded for an M1A a while back, and I love it. Shoots great, reliable, accurate etc etc. Love the irons on it, just like my Garand. Here's my dilemma, I want/need a scoped gun for long range shooting. As much as I like the M1A I am wondering if i wouldn't be better served by going to an AR-10 style gun, or even just a bolt gun, but I really want a semi-auto. The plan right now is with my Tax return after the first of the year to get the scope, and mount and things that I need to use the M1A in that role. My M1A is about a 1 MOA gun so far with my loads, so I am happy with it's performance. Just knocking around the idea of a gun like an R-25 or something similar and wanted some feedback. Looking at more what I want the gun to do, as opposed to what I 'like" if you get my drift. Anyone have an R-25 or similar AR-10? or know what they get accuracy wise? or just general suggestions.</div></div>

Here's my R25 https://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthr...550#Post3653550
 
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Also if you hand load then the 308ar platform is superior because you can choose ballistically better 1000+ yard cartridges. Just my opinion
 
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yes, you are most defenitely infatuated with the M1A, nothing wrong with that at all.
 
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... And there's Joe to make us all feel bad
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: attherange</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yes, you are most defenitely infatuated with the M1A, nothing wrong with that at all. </div></div>

I gotta agree. I have two 308 ARs One "carbine" style, one "precision" style.

And, I keep thinking about an M1-A.
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If you want a rue long range shooter, buy a bolt gun and shoot the snot out of it. Much easier.

BUT KEEP the M-1A and shoot the piss out of it too!

BMT
 
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Hello all, new poster here, but not new to the forum.

I have both AR 10 (POF P308 20") and M1A (SA Scout in a JAE-100). Both rifles have the Vortex PST scopes on them. While having both, I guess Im like BigJoe and BattleAxe, keep the M1A and then get an AR10 too. They are BOTH great shooting guns and have their advantages and disadvantages that can be argued like Ford andChevy owners.
If your M1A is shooting 1MOA now KEEP it. While there are many quality builds out there, there are more that won't shoot 1MOA, and keep it thereIf you put glass on it DO NOT skimp on the mount. You will waste $$ chasing a zero that won't hold with a crap mount. It cracks me up to see a beautiful M1A at the range $2500, a nice scope on it $800+, on a $75 crap stamped metal mount and the guy behind the trigger pulling out his hair. Buy once cry once.
As for the AR10 its totally different shooting, softer felt recoil and a little easier to "get into" behind the scope compared to the M1A, just seems to line up better for me. The POF I have is a little bit lighter compared to the Scout also, think JAE-100 adding 2lbs or so.
I dont know If I'm making sense, and shouldn't post after a large turkey dinner and a couple glasses of wine, but shoot me a PM if you have a question.

Respectfully
Tack
 
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So to sum up the advice here Kilo, it's the same advice the Hide always gives... Don't ever sell any guns, buy at least one of everything
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See, there's the ring leader now
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see i just steal my pics offline and actually don't own a single gun, i'm 15 and my mom wont' let me.... i play alot of PS3 though and my guns on there are decked out. i just make other people spend money.
 
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Fuckin' instigators, they're the worst... Go back to your cheetos & leave the real ganster shit to the big boys!
 
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ok back to naked call of duty and moutain dew
 
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FYI, aluminum can does NOT make a good fleshlight... Ask me how I know
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I have had a personal weakness for the M1A/M14 since back when the M-14 my issue rifle for over a yeear in 'Nam. I love it for what it is and how well it does it. But it is not an ideal basis for a long range precision application

As far as other semi's are concerned, the AR platform has better potential for consistent accuracy, but again, would not be my choice for LR accuracy. It can do the job, but the ones that can simply cost more than I'm willing to invest simply to have it done by a semi.

To do the job right, use the preferred platform. That platform is the bolt action rifle. I think it gives a better return for the investment involved.

Finally, once you choose a platform for it's effectivenes, go the rest of the way, and choose a chambering for the same reasons. The .308's popularity and simplicity are not in question, but better selections are easy to find and implement.

Personaly, I believe that optimal 30 caliber projectiles require too much energy to employ comfortably. Steping down to 7mm and 6.5mm can be effectively accomplished without much fuss.

For 7mm, I like the .280 Rem, and for 6.5mm, I like the .260 Rem.

Greg
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Both are diferent animals and I proudly own both.

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Joe:

Are those Vortex flash hiders on the Bolt gun and M1-A?

Been thinking bout adding one to my AR.

BMT
 
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Are they (Vortex flash hider) worth the price?

I run a Phantom right now and it works very well.

Thanks,

BMT
 
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As a flash hider they are really good, they also mount to the smith supressors which I have one coming
 
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I have M1A's, AR10's and bolt guns. I love M1A's but they are an entirely different beast than any other. Much more expensive and sensitive to accuracing than an AR10. I have a Fulton Armory Peerless grade that will shoot sub 1/2moa consistently when I do my part, but it also took a lot of work to get it there. The LMT MWS I have is also cheaper but almost as accurate. If I was to put a match barrel on it I believe it would meet the same accuracy of the M1A as the others I've shot do.

You just have to shoot what you want and what you can afford. The M1A will be much more to accurize depending on your needs but they are an amazing weapon. Just slightly harder to accurize than the AR system.
 
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Good advice from SHOOTER45. Shoot what you want and what you can afford. I own numerous bolt guns, M1As and AR weapons. I keep the M1As around because I love shooting them and for the sentimental value. Of all three weapon styles they are the most frustrating to squeeze sub MOA accuracy from. If you plan on staying with the M1A for a very accurate sub MOA distance gun be preparred to spend more for optics mounts, reloading costs, parts replacements (like explained above), etc than you will for other style of guns. If you have deep pockets have at it.

If out of the box accuracy at a low expense is high on your list then a Remy, Savage, Tikka, etc bolt gun or one of the many 308 ARs out there will better meet your needs.

Best of luck with your search.

Jet
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BattleAxe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I love my M1A. It's sub-MOA to 600 (max tested) and it looks like pure sex on a stick, BUT my AR-10 platform is a better rifle. I'd almost argue to keep the M1A. AR-10 platforms can be found used cheap and it's worth skipping a meal here and there to own both.

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tactical unsound. You don't want to loose the use of iron sights with glass that can and does go down.
 
Re: M1A vs Ar-10, am I too infatuated with the M1A?

I went down the precision M1A road a while back. Its a nostalgic platform, and a lot of folks have a sentimental attachment to it.

The problem is, the M1A is a hard platform to make accurate, and harder to keep it accurate. In the long run, you'll spend a lot of time and money to end up with a heavy, expensive platform that uses expensive mags, has expensive spare parts, and doesn't do anything better than a lighter, more versatile AR10 platform.

If you want an M1A because of sentimental or nostalgic reasons, go for it. If you want a good Semi auto .308, you're better off with an AR10.
 
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I normally get into AR10 vs. M14 Discussions at least 3 times a year. I guess it's a slow year? Anyways, AR10 all day long.

1) Armalite AR10's come with a Scope mount included:
This is huge! A quality scope mount on a M14 will cost you about $200, and even if you do get a mount, they come loose quite often. A M14 receiver tries to twist it off. AR10, the mount can't come loose (because it's part of the upper receiver). Another problem you will find with a scoped M14 is cheekweld, actually it's more of a shoulderweld.

2) Bolt swap on an AR10 is easy:
On an AR10, just crack her open and put in the new bolt. With M14's, a bolt swap is a complicated process. Once you put in your new M14bolt, you have to lap the bolt and time the barrel to get that "magic headspace". If you have a Smith do it, he will charge you a pretty penny.

3) Barrel Swap is easy on AR10:
With an AR10, all you do is unscrew the old barrel, and screw in new barrel. No magic headspace needed. The barrels come pre-headspace from the factory. With M1A's, you have to find the "magic headspace" after you install a new barrel by timing the barrel and lapping the bolt.

4) Better Parts availability for AR10:
You can get everything for an AR10 directly from the manufacturer if you have to. With M14's, parts are not evn available from the Mfgr, and on top of that, surplus USGI parts are not really easily available anymore. Extractors, bolts, BCG, buffers, are easy to get for the AR10.

5) Better Aftermarket accessories for AR10:
For AR10s. the choices for triggers, stocks, and forends is endless. How about a nice trick barrel for an AR10? Yep, your choice. Noveske, White Oak, Schillen, etc, and you can install the barrel yourself without trying to figure out the magic headspace. Also, try getting a nice trigger for an M1A, tell me how that works out for you.

6) AR10 has the better chassis:
Reason AR10 has a better chassis is because it does not have one! It has an upper and lower, and with the correct forend/rails, you can easily FF the barrel assembly. A quality Chassis for the M1A will run you about $700.

7) AR10's are inherently more accurate:
AR style locking lugs and naturally FF barrel, you will find that it takes a lot less work to make an AR10 accurate.

8) AR10's are easy to Smith:
You can do everything on the AR10 yourself. Bolt swap, barrel swap, extractor swap, etc. No "magic headspace needed". If an AR10 does go down, they are easy to get back up. Lots of little parts on the M14 that can fail, and when they do, it's not easy to replace them and get the gun working again.

9) AR10's can handle hot rounds better
Hot rounds are not a problem with the AR10, the AR10 laughs at hot rounds. With M14, all it takes one hot round and say hello to Mr. Bent Oprod. A bent oprod on a M14 will turn your M14 into a club. USGI Oprods for M14's are no longer available, and even the cheap ones go for about $200. M118LR was actually loaded lighter because all the combat M14's were getting beat up.

10) AR10's does not beat up brass as much as an M14. The AR10 can easily get 10 reloads from one case (LC case). The M14 beats up brass so much that you would be lucky to get 5 reloads. #10 is really for reloaders only. I know all you Operators are too busy training and do not have to reload.

11) AR10's look better.
This should be #1. Looks matter! Looks are everything.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rojkoh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">tactical unsound. You don't want to loose the use of iron sights with glass that can and does go down. </div></div>
That's theorically a good point, but unfortunately for you, here in reality, not so much. First, most of us don't find ourselves in 'tactical' situations anymore (whatever the fuck that is). Second, the vast majority of bolt guns have no back-up sights & they get deployed 'tactically' with great success (ask me how I know). I'd be willing to bet that most back-up iron sights you see on AR platforms aren't even sighted in! Are they tactically sound at that point or just a pretty accessory, kind of like a Louis Vuitton purse! Sights on top of sights on top of sights does more to impress the other homos at the range, not the bad guys... Sorry to burst your tactical bubble.

Furthermore, upon closer inspection, I believe the mount you were referencing was see through, rendering the irons as still very much employable... Just sayin'...
 
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Eric,

A more eloquent comparison of these two platforms could not be better written. Nice summary.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tx_Flyboy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Eric,

A more eloquent comparison of these two platforms could not be better written. Nice summary. </div></div>

Agreed.

Though I disagree on looks. I like the look of the M1A better.

BMT
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rojkoh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">tactical unsound. You don't want to loose the use of iron sights with glass that can and does go down. </div></div>

I could take this bait but I might hurt my pinky typing and as we all know...pinkys can and do go down and then where would I be? No glass AND no pinky. That would be un-snipery.
 
Re: M1A vs Ar-10, am I too infatuated with the M1A?

I dumped almost six grand including the rifle different scope mounts and accurizing mods into a M1A loaded standard trying to get it to shoot as consistently accurate as a bone stock off-the-shelf AR10