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Photos The Start of My Bug Out Kit

rawburt

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I had some free time on my hands tonight. So, I gathered up all the misc. shooting/survival gear that I had laying around the house.

I have a lot more gear that could be included, but I probably wouldn't fit on my kitchen counter.

Let me know what you guys think.
 
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Don't forget the first aid kit and quick clot. Great idea about multiple multitools. And a real topo map just in case of an emp blast. GPS would be doa.
 
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I have a a decent sized first aid kit in its own ruck. I do not have any Quick Clot though. Fortunately for me there is a gun show at the GRB in Houston this weekend. I'm sure I can find some there. I will check out the map situation. I guess my comms would be dead too in an EMP event.

Thanks for the tips.
 
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if your talking emp from air burst nuclear warhead then iodine tablets are also good, buuut useless against zombies
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So much for cheek weld...
 
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Yeah the cheek weld is an issue with my set up.

I wanted to be able to use the iron sights, but with a scope on the side mount rail your iron sights are useless. So I put some raised scope rings to see if I could use the iron sights below the scope. It kind of works. I found some cheek rest that mount to that butt stock. I am going to look for one at the gun show tomorrow.

I am also going to look at some 45 degree iron sights that I can mount on the rail. The only thing is I will have to get a quad rail for the front.

I am able to hit a ~12 steel plate at our local gun range with that set up.

Obviously with a decent cheek weld I could be more consistent.

There is always room for improvement.

Thanks for the comments.
 
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I've seen the iodine tablets online. Do you know what the shelf life is for those?
 
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Buy a better knife then the "Bowie"!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So much for cheek weld... </div></div>

Forget the cheek weld, the real pros fire from the hip!
 
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I like the kit you put together. Any idea how you will carry it all? I think a "great" backpack is one of the most important parts of any kit.

Have you considered a small ax instead of the Bowie knife? I think the ax would be more useful and weigh about the same. Most hunting stores have numerous options available.

I see many people using waterproof matches. I am pretty sure that a few big lighters would be a better option. I seal them in a bag using my Foodsaver. They last a long time and are fairly tough. Anyone have any thoughts on that?

I see you have two different calibers with your handguns. This, of course, means you need to carry two different types of ammo to support them. If you only had one caliber it would make it easier to ensure you didn't run out of one type. I love the 1911's and own several of them but if the "s@#T really hit the fan" I think 9mm would be easier to get my hands on. I love the knock down power of the .45 but if I can't find ammo for it, well....it isn't much use at that point. A 9mm is fully capable of doing plenty of damage to a human body. I am a Soldier and have seen the damage lots of times.

I think you are 100% on target with your choice of optics on the AR. I think a 3 X 9 is an awesome choice for several reasons. Number one, a 5.56 is more of a short range weapon (lets say 300 yards). The 9 X would offer plenty of power at that distance. The next thing I love about it is the fact that it doesn't need batteries. 123A batteries will become VERY hard to find if the situation lasts for an extended period of time. It does take a little longer to ID a target with optics but not much longer on 3 X power. If I was engaging targets that were at short distance or clearing a room I would be using a pistol anyway. So in my opinion the scope on the AR really is one of the best choices. If the targets were at really short distances and I didn't have a pistol I would be shooting from the hip anyway.

Just one guys thoughts.
 
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You know how I know yer the real deal, it's cause you have "bugout locales" on yer GPS, oh and the shemagh, only delta operators have one of those to use in a bug out situation as a impromptu tactical diaper, bravo sir
 
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''impromptu tactical diaper'' Bwa ha ha ha ha. Lunch just got spat all over my screen ,Damn you vjj
 
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I would go more ultrlight. Rifle, pistol, ammo, multitool, first aid kit, headlamp and pack full of food and water. I would "borrow" the rest from the dead bodies I come across. You have a lot of great gear. Hope someone trusted is coming with you to help carry it.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VJJPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You know how I know yer the real deal, it's cause you have "bugout locales" on yer GPS, oh and the shemagh, only delta operators have one of those to use in a bug out situation as a impromptu tactical diaper, bravo sir </div></div>It's missing a tin of catfood, a bottle of Jergens, a subscription to Soldier of Fortune and a transistor radio.
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What is a Bug out kit for?
 
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I would suggest minimizing the different calibers of pistol to just one. (Of which I would take 45acp)
 
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I half-heartedly hope that the OP was made in jest... if not, there is much work to be done. I say half-hearted because even if meant as a joke it could be used by some misguided reader as an actual preparedness guide... likely resulting in their early demise should they actually have to rely on it.

A few recommendations, if I may:

1) what are you going to eat (besides lead) from this kit? You need SOMETHING to keep you moving, get an MRE or something in there ASAP!

2) Where is your water capacity? You need not carry a large qty to start out, but you need to have a means of storage and replenishment. Does your pack have bladders? That nalgene is not enough capacity.

You also need a means of purification other than the tabs since they are finite in quantity (and can also cause GI 'distress' for some people, so try them now before you need them). I recommend a sawyer one-point filter, since they have the longest life for the price IMHO.

3) Three handguns? Seriously? One is plenty, swap out the others for mags. If you must have a second, stay with the same caliber. I know it's tempting to cover all the bases thinking you can scavenge ammo, but that is fantasy.

4)the bowie knife is absurdly oversized. It will not help you survive off the land, and it won't help you win a knife fight either because it's unwieldy. Go with a medium sized fixed blade for survival purposes (KaBar, etc.) and a good pocket knife (Benchmade, SOG, CRKT, etc.)

5) You don't need 3 flashlights, and least of all ones that use d-batteries. This is due to size/weight concerns. Choose a nice bright LED light that uses conventional AA/AAA batteries. Fenix has many good selections, as do other makers. Get a nice one, even if it means paying more.

6) The AK is a fine platform as a battle rifle, don't cripple its utility with a cheap scope. I would recommend you relegate that one to a .22 and go with the red-dot or a 1-4x scope. Vortex has a couple nice dots out now which are a more durable design than what you've got (aimpoint style), and there are may suitable 1-4x choices from budget to spendy. Something like the leatherwood 1-4x would be a fine choice.

7) where are your socks? Dry feet are priority one IMHO.

Remember, less is more. Less clutter leaves more room for staples: water, ammo, food. Less weight means more comfort, more distance before fatigue, and more performance in the field.
 
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I dont know a lot about bugout but I see too mush guns with suce a low round count, I would take a rifke a pistol and at leasr 300 rounds for each,
 
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to much guns and military crap
Is it a utility bag or a magazine spread for all your shit?

your forgetting the basics
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I agree that you have missed what the intended purpose of a BOB is. Check out this video by one of my favorite firearms instructors, James Yeager. He will get you started in the right direction. Incidentally, I use the same pack (an Eberlestock Gunslinger II).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGr0brTI7W8
 
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Boomholzer, that is definitely a fine classic mall security guard go bag. Probably need a few more magazines and some candy. Spare arch supports for those cool patrol shoes they wear would be good too.
 
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http://i.imgur.com/9HuAb.png

So, let's see. You got a ham radio that you've modified outside of type acceptance, and a two-way radio capable of TX/RX on assigned emergency services frequencies. And you talk about it here and post pictures? Don't take too long chewing that biscuit, you might asphyxiate.
 
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What's the logic of 3 pistols with a few mags for each vs. 1 pistol and more mags and ammo for that one pistol? Redundancy? Ability to arm a partner?

Joe
 
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What is the purpose of a Shemagh? it looks like a better alternative than a tube sock for keeping the interior of my sleeping bag unstained and personal clean up.
 
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that's one heavy toybox to keep your mind off of being thirsty.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pmclaine</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What is the purpose of a Shemagh?</div></div>

It's in the hope that someone will say a few words over what's left of him because he was tacticool?
 
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I can't tell if this is a troll or not...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scudzuki</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's the logic of 3 pistols with a few mags for each vs. 1 pistol and more mags and ammo for that one pistol? Redundancy? Ability to arm a partner?
Joe </div></div>

To show you he has three pistols.
 
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Too many guns and not enough essentials...
GPS will be dead, get a map.
Too many flash lights.
Worthless knife.
Need cash/gold/booze/fuel for barter.
Long-pig cookbook will come in very handy.
 
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Man tough crowd... Anyway her is mine

2 letters makers' mark
1 pack solo cups ( red dixi cups are for queers)
Glock 17 with bout 8 mags
Summer sausage
Jerkey
Crackers
Condoms ( there has to be a chick somewhere in the post bug out word who is in need)
Poncho

When the makers is gone I plan on just ending it anyway so I don't need much.
 
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I see alot of topics on bug out bags - the OP has a decent 1 but carrying AMMO for all those guns may be a problem . For me - im going to shelter in place and take my chances. Ar15 , 375 Taurus & 12 guage shotgun plus plenty of ammo. Living on a 15 acre farm in a 1700's stone farmhouse makes for a great camp!!
 
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??? A uselessly large crocodile dundee bowie and 3-pound flashlight are definitely survival essentials.
 
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Roadwild17 is definately thinking straight -FOOD , BOOZE & CLAP protection !! Hell - you can hang out with me at the farmhouse - just stay away from my lady !!
 
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Not sure if serious.... *scratches head*

If not, well played.

IF serious, a couple critiques purely in the spirit of helpfulness:

- Dump the Maglight AND the "maplight"- will save what? like 5 pounds in the maglight alone?
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Get a second smaller, high output LED- plenty of good quality lights out there, in either CR123 or common AA/AAA flavors- and I don't mean pick one from Walmart. You could also get a really small light that can clip to a hat (or your head) if you want a dedicated map light.

- I'm not sure if you'd need both those multitools- this is purely personal preference, but I've had a couple and didn't find them all that useful most times- however when they were useful, the bigger one was generally what was needed.

- You don't need all three pistols, unless you're bringing a friend in which case they can carry their own damn gun! If you MUST have more than 1, I'd say a fullsize, and then the compact would be best idea, preferably in a common caliber. Of course, I'd trade a couple there for a Glock, and then you could get a caliber conversion kit if you felt the need, but just my preference. Some better holsters might be a good idea as well.

- Dump the Bowie too- that's WAY to damn big. I do agree with having a serious fixed blade, but something along the lines of an ESEE 6 or 4 (for ease of comparison's sake) would be WAY more useful.In fact I know a lot of folk prefer a combo. Like a hatchet + 3-4 inch blade, or fullsize 5-7 inch blade + 2-3 incher (like an Izula- yes, I'm on a bit of an ESEE trip right now.
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- Switch to an AR15 (preferably of good quality like Colt/BCM/Etc., although Spikes or PSA will do if you must. Yes I said Spikes.
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). Seriously. I know that sounds mean, and I do like the AK a bit myself, but think of it this way- how standardized is the AR/M4/M16 platform here in the USA? Now how about the AK? Not so much.... Plus your scope issues will solve themselves with an AR AND you can save a little more weight if you go KISS with it.

- More water carriage, and maybe a redundant way to filter it. You have multiple ways to make fire but only one (ok, two if you count the fire, but you'll need something to put the water in that won't melt) way to purify water, which is even more important. Electrolyte replacement was a good idea though.

- FOOD! I'm getting hungry just looking at this picture!
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- I'm just going to assume since you have the compass you've got a map to go with it. I too like GPS- a LOT since I'm a sucky direction finder, but battery life.... and then where are you going to recharge it? Granted with the weight you save on dumping the Maglite and one of the pistols you could probably carry a small solar panel, but still....
Also, dependant on who/what you're buggin out from, and how much tinfoil you put on this morning, you ARE carrying a GPS on you....

- Something waterproof (like a poncho) and something cold proof- basically some sort of either shelter or wearable gear that will at least somewhat minimize any elemental factors.

I may have missed a couple things, but this is kind of rushed- I'm sure they've been covered in the other posts here.
 
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I love this crowd. The 'sorry, but that's ridiculous' radar is always turned up here!
 
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Yes sir Boone - toilet paper & baby wipes would be at the top of the list !! Plus a case of Monkey-Butt Powder !! Cause if you can't walk much less run with your bug out bag your gonna have a CRAPPY day !!!!!
 
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I think some maps, a good field medic reference manual and boy scout manual wouldn't hurt either.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dogman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sign up for site.

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Profit. </div></div>

Damn, Dog, that's almost haiku.

Lemme try ...

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Hot, sour wind fills the shemagh
Covering buttocks
 
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Don't need no three pistols or the monocular if you have a scope (at least that monocular). I do like the lower dollars night vis monocular though. Would be a nice addition.

Funny thing is people way out of shape with a massively heavy Bug Out Kit that they'll never be able to carry. Gotta get that together way before any of the tacticool crap.
 
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And nobody pointed out the chairs for an emergency shelter and resting...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And nobody pointed out the chairs for an emergency shelter and resting... </div></div>

How's he gonna camp out in the back yard without fixins for S'mores and some good comic books?
 
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Definitely don't ditch the big Maglite like some say. You need to bore the back end of it out to lose some of the weight. Get the size just right. Then you will have the perfect base to install your homemade fleshlight. Be sure to carry enough lube so you can keister stash that bad boy, that way you free up your hands for other stuff like three or four pistols. The real operators will never sniff you out with that shemagh either so you will blend right in, as long as it's thrown over that rifle of course. On the bright side, you won't ever have to worry about getting in a knife fight with that intimidating ass hip sword... unless you run across ol Mic Dundee off in the bush. He will have to square up with you out of sheer principle so be ready for that.


Not exactly sure which one of these guys you are
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but they both seem to share your taste in some of the gear they use. Keep your eyes peeled because this could get ugly quick. No offense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVX8wm_CONM

Glad I could help and good luck.
 
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Every thing said here, this is great advise. If you truly want a backpack/bug-out bag, something you could truly rely on. This is it.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bcw1284</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I half-heartedly hope that the OP was made in jest... if not, there is much work to be done. I say half-hearted because even if meant as a joke it could be used by some misguided reader as an actual preparedness guide... likely resulting in their early demise should they actually have to rely on it.

A few recommendations, if I may:

1) what are you going to eat (besides lead) from this kit? You need SOMETHING to keep you moving, get an MRE or something in there ASAP!

2) Where is your water capacity? You need not carry a large qty to start out, but you need to have a means of storage and replenishment. Does your pack have bladders? That nalgene is not enough capacity.

You also need a means of purification other than the tabs since they are finite in quantity (and can also cause GI 'distress' for some people, so try them now before you need them). I recommend a sawyer one-point filter, since they have the longest life for the price IMHO.

3) Three handguns? Seriously? One is plenty, swap out the others for mags. If you must have a second, stay with the same caliber. I know it's tempting to cover all the bases thinking you can scavenge ammo, but that is fantasy.

4)the bowie knife is absurdly oversized. It will not help you survive off the land, and it won't help you win a knife fight either because it's unwieldy. Go with a medium sized fixed blade for survival purposes (KaBar, etc.) and a good pocket knife (Benchmade, SOG, CRKT, etc.)

5) You don't need 3 flashlights, and least of all ones that use d-batteries. This is due to size/weight concerns. Choose a nice bright LED light that uses conventional AA/AAA batteries. Fenix has many good selections, as do other makers. Get a nice one, even if it means paying more.

6) The AK is a fine platform as a battle rifle, don't cripple its utility with a cheap scope. I would recommend you relegate that one to a .22 and go with the red-dot or a 1-4x scope. Vortex has a couple nice dots out now which are a more durable design than what you've got (aimpoint style), and there are may suitable 1-4x choices from budget to spendy. Something like the leatherwood 1-4x would be a fine choice.

7) where are your socks? Dry feet are priority one IMHO.

Remember, less is more. Less clutter leaves more room for staples: water, ammo, food. Less weight means more comfort, more distance before fatigue, and more performance in the field. </div></div>
 
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Not meaning to question your "readyness" or focus, but:

- How long are you planning on "bugging out" for?
- Who is going with you?
- Where are you bugging out to?
- Why are you bugging out?
- What is the threat?
- What is your survival strategy?
- How will you deal with the daily basics of food, drink and shelter?
- What tools/kit and personal skills do you (and those accompanying you) need to help you deal with these?

Answer these basic questions and not only will you be closer to understanding what you might need in your kit...but you'll not need to seek approval here. My guess is you'll be better off staying home in an area you are fully familiar with, making sure your house is secure and well stocked with the essentials and keeping a low profile if the mythical SHTF.

The pile of stuff on your counter looks more like you're planning a day at the range and are going to be home in time for supper...either that or you're bug out location is a 7-11 or Holiday Inn Express.

....My advice (FWIW)....forget "bugging out" and get yourself a girlfriend!