A guy brought this into a LGS last night. He paid $71 on ebay. The price, red/green illumination, no click turrets, and sunglasses image quality are dead giveaways, but they went all-out on the Leupold medallion, and counterfeit markings.
Rifle Scopes Heads-Up: Fake Leupold's from China
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Re: Heads-Up: Fake Leupold's from China
Numbers on the elevation turret are laying on their side.
Okie
Numbers on the elevation turret are laying on their side.
Okie
Re: Heads-Up: Fake Leupold's from China
That sucks, but nothing on it looks like a Mark 4, those are very poor knock offs.
Damn china crap.
By now everybody should know about this shit.
That sucks, but nothing on it looks like a Mark 4, those are very poor knock offs.
Damn china crap.
By now everybody should know about this shit.
Re: Heads-Up: Fake Leupold's from China
If I was in charge, I would launch unrestricted submarine warfare against any freight ship coming into our out of China's coastline. They should be banned from making anything other than what they made pre-Kissenger opening them up under Nixon.
You can count on Chinese goods to break, and be useless.
If I was in charge, I would launch unrestricted submarine warfare against any freight ship coming into our out of China's coastline. They should be banned from making anything other than what they made pre-Kissenger opening them up under Nixon.
You can count on Chinese goods to break, and be useless.
Re: Heads-Up: Fake Leupold's from China
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pwc001</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That sucks, but nothing on it looks like a Mark 4, those are very poor knock offs.
Damn china crap.
By now everybody should know about this shit. </div></div>
Well, their good enough that Leupold has dedicated a part of their website for years to help customers identify the knockoffs. You can also just call Leupold with a serial number.
Okie
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pwc001</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That sucks, but nothing on it looks like a Mark 4, those are very poor knock offs.
Damn china crap.
By now everybody should know about this shit. </div></div>
Well, their good enough that Leupold has dedicated a part of their website for years to help customers identify the knockoffs. You can also just call Leupold with a serial number.
Okie
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I was curious about this so over to ebay I went...I found a few more of these..but I hate to say it all the ones I saw said, either "mark4 style" or "replica in the add.
here are just 2 I found..they both say style,replica or copy.
good catch though..thanks for the heads up and letting us all learn from this!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Leupold-Styl...=item416f375abc
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leupold-Style-Ma...=item2a271b143a
I was curious about this so over to ebay I went...I found a few more of these..but I hate to say it all the ones I saw said, either "mark4 style" or "replica in the add.
here are just 2 I found..they both say style,replica or copy.
good catch though..thanks for the heads up and letting us all learn from this!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Leupold-Styl...=item416f375abc
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leupold-Style-Ma...=item2a271b143a
Re: Heads-Up: Fake Leupold's from China
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DFOOSKING</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well when they zero experience ever seeing a Mark 4 let alone using one...its easy to see how they can make a mistake.
Stack on top of that a local dealer is selling it.....well. My guy paid $350.
I'm just glad it was caught.</div></div>
For your example, yes, it's easier to understand. However the original instance of finding a Leupold..for $71..on <span style="font-style: italic">EBay</span>..
It's like buying a brand new Mercedes for a few thousand dollars from the bum that lives under the bridge, it's just too good a deal to pass up.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DFOOSKING</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well when they zero experience ever seeing a Mark 4 let alone using one...its easy to see how they can make a mistake.
Stack on top of that a local dealer is selling it.....well. My guy paid $350.
I'm just glad it was caught.</div></div>
For your example, yes, it's easier to understand. However the original instance of finding a Leupold..for $71..on <span style="font-style: italic">EBay</span>..
It's like buying a brand new Mercedes for a few thousand dollars from the bum that lives under the bridge, it's just too good a deal to pass up.
Re: Heads-Up: Fake Leupold's from China
That is the first Leupold fake that I've seen that had a medallion. Here is the page from Leupold with the counterfeit warning for those who haven't seen it before.
http://www.leupold.com/resources/counterfeit-warning/
That is the first Leupold fake that I've seen that had a medallion. Here is the page from Leupold with the counterfeit warning for those who haven't seen it before.
http://www.leupold.com/resources/counterfeit-warning/
Re: Heads-Up: Fake Leupold's from China
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: okiefired</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pwc001</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That sucks, but nothing on it looks like a Mark 4, those are very poor knock offs.
Damn china crap.
By now everybody should know about this shit. </div></div>
Well, their good enough that Leupold has dedicated a part of their website for years to help customers identify the knockoffs. You can also just call Leupold with a serial number.
Okie </div></div>
I know, like I said, everybody should know about them by now. Besides, it may have the medallion, but everything else is not even close.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: okiefired</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pwc001</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That sucks, but nothing on it looks like a Mark 4, those are very poor knock offs.
Damn china crap.
By now everybody should know about this shit. </div></div>
Well, their good enough that Leupold has dedicated a part of their website for years to help customers identify the knockoffs. You can also just call Leupold with a serial number.
Okie </div></div>
I know, like I said, everybody should know about them by now. Besides, it may have the medallion, but everything else is not even close.
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Surprised a legit ffl would sell a blatant counterfeit. Hope it was with the understanding that it was one.
but, for 70 benjamins, if you can stand seeing a target the same as a goldfish would see it, mount er up
Surprised a legit ffl would sell a blatant counterfeit. Hope it was with the understanding that it was one.
but, for 70 benjamins, if you can stand seeing a target the same as a goldfish would see it, mount er up
Re: Heads-Up: Fake Leupold's from China
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Darkstar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Surprised a legit ffl would sell a blatant counterfeit. Hope it was with the understanding that it was one.
but, for 70 benjamins, if you can stand seeing a target the same as a goldfish would see it, mount er up
</div></div>
70 benjamins???
You mean 70 Washingtons I hope! $7000 would be a chunck on a scope.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Darkstar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Surprised a legit ffl would sell a blatant counterfeit. Hope it was with the understanding that it was one.
but, for 70 benjamins, if you can stand seeing a target the same as a goldfish would see it, mount er up
</div></div>
70 benjamins???
You mean 70 Washingtons I hope! $7000 would be a chunck on a scope.
Re: Heads-Up: Fake Leupold's from China
I just wanted to clarify that this was NOT for sale at the local gun store. They only stock NF, Trijicon, real Leupold's, etc.
A customer brought it in to show what one looks like. Yes, the turrets feel like Counter-Sniper. They probably come out of the same filthy armpit hole of gun show-grade optics manufacturing somewhere over there.
I just wanted to clarify that this was NOT for sale at the local gun store. They only stock NF, Trijicon, real Leupold's, etc.
A customer brought it in to show what one looks like. Yes, the turrets feel like Counter-Sniper. They probably come out of the same filthy armpit hole of gun show-grade optics manufacturing somewhere over there.
Re: Heads-Up: Fake Leupold's from China
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pwc001</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: okiefired</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pwc001</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That sucks, but nothing on it looks like a Mark 4, those are very poor knock offs.
Damn china crap.
By now everybody should know about this shit. </div></div>
Well, their good enough that Leupold has dedicated a part of their website for years to help customers identify the knockoffs. You can also just call Leupold with a serial number.
Okie </div></div>
I know, like I said, everybody should know about them by now. Besides, it may have the medallion, but everything else is not even close. </div></div>
Well, they're close enough or else no one would be getting ripped off by them. I handled one at the Tulsa gun show two years ago and thought it was a pretty good look alike and I've owned a Mk 4 for years. Its obvious that the scope IS similar in appearance. Of course, some copies are better than others.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pwc001</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: okiefired</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pwc001</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That sucks, but nothing on it looks like a Mark 4, those are very poor knock offs.
Damn china crap.
By now everybody should know about this shit. </div></div>
Well, their good enough that Leupold has dedicated a part of their website for years to help customers identify the knockoffs. You can also just call Leupold with a serial number.
Okie </div></div>
I know, like I said, everybody should know about them by now. Besides, it may have the medallion, but everything else is not even close. </div></div>
Well, they're close enough or else no one would be getting ripped off by them. I handled one at the Tulsa gun show two years ago and thought it was a pretty good look alike and I've owned a Mk 4 for years. Its obvious that the scope IS similar in appearance. Of course, some copies are better than others.
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I can only say this...I have a Rolex Oyster Perpetual Datejust that I paid $800 for back in 1975.
It's been regularily serviced to about the tune of $300 every 5 years and is $6000 new these days.
My $100 Casio keeps way better time ;-) , and guess where it's made.
My point is that a lot of garbage comes out of China and one has to be wary.
Actually anyone on the planet who thought he was getting a real Leupold at this price is living in la-la land.
But wholeheartedly knocking China product, when I gaurantee that you are posting your thoughts on a computer whose guts come from that country is being a little unfair.
I can only say this...I have a Rolex Oyster Perpetual Datejust that I paid $800 for back in 1975.
It's been regularily serviced to about the tune of $300 every 5 years and is $6000 new these days.
My $100 Casio keeps way better time ;-) , and guess where it's made.
My point is that a lot of garbage comes out of China and one has to be wary.
Actually anyone on the planet who thought he was getting a real Leupold at this price is living in la-la land.
But wholeheartedly knocking China product, when I gaurantee that you are posting your thoughts on a computer whose guts come from that country is being a little unfair.
Re: Heads-Up: Fake Leupold's from China
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LRRPF52</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If I was in charge, I would launch unrestricted submarine warfare against any freight ship coming into our out of China's coastline. They should be banned from making anything other than what they made pre-Kissenger opening them up under Nixon.
You can count on Chinese goods to break, and be useless. </div></div>
I hope you get your iPhone before you sink it to the bottom of the Pacific Ocean.
Gonna be a bleak Christmas, too, after you scuttle all your kid's toys.
Not everything that comes out of China is crap, but this kind of $hit should get confiscated as soon as it shows up on our shores. It's a pretty tall order, though... we can't exactly afford the kind of policing it would require to eliminate all of this fraudulent garbage.
Caveat Emptor (Let the buyer beware).
Joe
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LRRPF52</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If I was in charge, I would launch unrestricted submarine warfare against any freight ship coming into our out of China's coastline. They should be banned from making anything other than what they made pre-Kissenger opening them up under Nixon.
You can count on Chinese goods to break, and be useless. </div></div>
I hope you get your iPhone before you sink it to the bottom of the Pacific Ocean.
Gonna be a bleak Christmas, too, after you scuttle all your kid's toys.
Not everything that comes out of China is crap, but this kind of $hit should get confiscated as soon as it shows up on our shores. It's a pretty tall order, though... we can't exactly afford the kind of policing it would require to eliminate all of this fraudulent garbage.
Caveat Emptor (Let the buyer beware).
Joe
Re: Heads-Up: Fake Leupold's from China
I got burned by one of these recently. It was a mark 4 1.5-4 x 20. I called leupold and they had me send pictures. They said it was the first fake they had seen in the mark 4 line.
I got burned by one of these recently. It was a mark 4 1.5-4 x 20. I called leupold and they had me send pictures. They said it was the first fake they had seen in the mark 4 line.
Re: Heads-Up: Fake Leupold's from China
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ngodwetrust21</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I got burned by one of these recently. It was a mark 4 1.5-4 x 20. I called leupold and they had me send pictures. They said it was the first fake they had seen in the mark 4 line. </div></div>
They must have ment the first 1.5-4 x 20, there been thousands of fake Mk4 s, they've been making them for years.
Okie
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ngodwetrust21</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I got burned by one of these recently. It was a mark 4 1.5-4 x 20. I called leupold and they had me send pictures. They said it was the first fake they had seen in the mark 4 line. </div></div>
They must have ment the first 1.5-4 x 20, there been thousands of fake Mk4 s, they've been making them for years.
Okie
Re: Heads-Up: Fake Leupold's from China
kind of a no shitter when the price was $71 dollars. ebay or not
kind of a no shitter when the price was $71 dollars. ebay or not
Re: Heads-Up: Fake Leupold's from China
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DFOOSKING</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well when they zero experience ever seeing a Mark 4 let alone using one...its easy to see how they can make a mistake.
Stack on top of that a local dealer is selling it.....well. My guy paid $350.
I'm just glad it was caught. </div></div>
who is it i would like to find out if they know they are fake or trying to rip people off
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DFOOSKING</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well when they zero experience ever seeing a Mark 4 let alone using one...its easy to see how they can make a mistake.
Stack on top of that a local dealer is selling it.....well. My guy paid $350.
I'm just glad it was caught. </div></div>
who is it i would like to find out if they know they are fake or trying to rip people off
Re: Heads-Up: Fake Leupold's from China
A friend of mine ownes a pretty big airsoft store. He just said that the next wave of knock offs will be Nightforce scopes. Be on gaurd.
A friend of mine ownes a pretty big airsoft store. He just said that the next wave of knock offs will be Nightforce scopes. Be on gaurd.
Re: Heads-Up: Fake Leupold's from China
I wouldn't pay 20 bucks for a leupold scope even a real one.
I wouldn't pay 20 bucks for a leupold scope even a real one.
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Well, with over 3k posts in two years....you probably don't have enough time to use one anyway.
Well, with over 3k posts in two years....you probably don't have enough time to use one anyway.
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