Miltary Brass vs. Savage 10 HS Precision

[Pointman308]

So, I have run into a ton of Miltary Lake City Brass for my .308. However after doing a full length resize on them they still close too tight in my Savage. I assume its because Savage turns down the head space to a minimum(.001 I hear). What are my options-Is there another way to bump the shoulders back or could I have a competent smith create some space for me? Or am I pissing in the wind with this brass?

 

[Force_Multiplier]

Re: Miltary Brass vs. Savage 10 HS Precision

small base die

 

[High Binder]

Re: Miltary Brass vs. Savage 10 HS Precision

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Force_Multiplier</div><div class="ubbcode-body">small base die </div></div>

+1

 

[Pointman308]

Re: Miltary Brass vs. Savage 10 HS Precision

What is the difference between those and normal dies? I have all Hornady dies-sizing die, seating die, neck sizing die.

 

[Force_Multiplier]

Re: Miltary Brass vs. Savage 10 HS Precision

normal dies leave the base unsized, a fair amount of it, that's actually where your's is tight...

small base dies size almost all the way down

 

[Pointman308]

Re: Miltary Brass vs. Savage 10 HS Precision

Would you use one with a decaping rod or without?

 

[Force_Multiplier]

Re: Miltary Brass vs. Savage 10 HS Precision

with, it full length sizes, just use it the first time instead of your Hornady die

 

[Pointman308]

Re: Miltary Brass vs. Savage 10 HS Precision

Hey thanks for your answers, I've been suffering this problem for a long time(years). I had no idea they made dies for undersized chambers! Thanks alot.

 

[Force_Multiplier]

Re: Miltary Brass vs. Savage 10 HS Precision

they're not really for under sized chambers, they're for over stretched brass... your LC was probably fired in a MG, which has a really loose chamber, the brass is over stretched

 

[Pointman308]

Re: Miltary Brass vs. Savage 10 HS Precision

Yeah my mistake, All of the unfired brass I have bought was fine at first, but after firing about four cycles after neck sizing and then doing a full length resize I noticed they are still tight has hell. I have always thought they were stopping because of the shoulders. The shoulder do get slight marks on them, but I will give one of these small base dies a try!

 

[Pointman308]

Re: Miltary Brass vs. Savage 10 HS Precision

Is there a brand any of you would recommend?

 

[culater]

Re: Miltary Brass vs. Savage 10 HS Precision

LAPUA hands down!

 

[Rover31]

Re: Miltary Brass vs. Savage 10 HS Precision

Few things,

Have you measured the case length? Trimmed?
Anneal then press it, I really like working with annealed brass,

That said I have heard of a couple of rifles that had your issue. It went away with higher quality brass. Seems odd to me that brass does that...
T

 

[littlerascal56]

Re: Miltary Brass vs. Savage 10 HS Precision

Switch to Hormady .308 Match brass, and you won't have any problems with the Savage chambers.

 

[smokebomb]

Re: Miltary Brass vs. Savage 10 HS Precision

4 reloads THEN chambering issues?
#1 check resized brass length, they may be overdue for a trim!
#2 small base size all you military brass atleast once in its lifespan, preferably first reload

 

[former naval person]

Re: Miltary Brass vs. Savage 10 HS Precision

Get a Lee Collet Neck size die and a Forster or Redding small base body die. Size the neck first then use the body die to both size down the oversized base and bump the shoulder. Works for me.

 

[George63]

Re: Miltary Brass vs. Savage 10 HS Precision

if the small base still does not chamber well the last resort is to grind/ file a few thousands off the bottom of the die so the neck bumps more

 

[bcrich]

Re: Miltary Brass vs. Savage 10 HS Precision

Did you try adjusting your current die another 1/4 -1/2 turn before going to a small base die?

 

[Pointman308]

Re: Miltary Brass vs. Savage 10 HS Precision

Update to this thread-First yes I have tried turning my current die until I thought it was going to put to much pressure on the shell holder and die and that didn't work. I bought a RCBS small base die and that did not work either. Also as far as brass goes it does it with Lapua, Remington, Federal, Winchester, and Lake City. My brother and I have the same make and model of rifle and his does the same thing mine does, just not as tight. The only other though I have is to grind a little off the die or the shell holder to see if it bumps the shoulder a little more. Any other ideas, because I'm running out!?