Everyone seems to be after a 1-6 for their AR. Why haven't I seen this little gem mentioned, seems about perfect to me. Anyone have any first hand experience?
Rifle Scopes Bushnell 1-6.5x24 Elite Tactical
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Re: Bushnell 1-6.5x24 Elite Tactical
I have one on order for a while now in BTR-2. There is some negativity regarding the usability of the reticle in FFP being too small and hindering the illumination. Illumination on the 2fp models are reportedly better.
On 1x a small reticle is fine for me and I'll be receiving the FFP model. I'm waiting on a demo to be returned, retail is a bit steep. There are a few sparce reviews out there but I don't think it became as popular with the price near the Razor HD and similar. I'm excited for it though, sounds great to me as well (glass is supposedly excellent).
I have one on order for a while now in BTR-2. There is some negativity regarding the usability of the reticle in FFP being too small and hindering the illumination. Illumination on the 2fp models are reportedly better.
On 1x a small reticle is fine for me and I'll be receiving the FFP model. I'm waiting on a demo to be returned, retail is a bit steep. There are a few sparce reviews out there but I don't think it became as popular with the price near the Razor HD and similar. I'm excited for it though, sounds great to me as well (glass is supposedly excellent).
Re: Bushnell 1-6.5x24 Elite Tactical
Keep me updated Bob, it will be April before I buy a optic.
Keep me updated Bob, it will be April before I buy a optic.
Re: Bushnell 1-6.5x24 Elite Tactical
I got one and love it. I have the BTR2 in Sfp .
It is not daylight bright. The ffp is VERY small at 1x and with it not being daylight bright was hard to see. The ffp at its max brightness is like a aimpoint at setting 6.
The Sfp is like a eotech at 1x. The dot in the middle is 1 moa. I like eotech's so it was exactly what I was looking for.
Basically
Sfp : eotech at 1x and mils are calibrated at 6.5
Ffp: dim aimpoint ( burgundy dot not red)at 1x and you can't see the mill line till around 3 power but its calibrated at any magnification .
I got one and love it. I have the BTR2 in Sfp .
It is not daylight bright. The ffp is VERY small at 1x and with it not being daylight bright was hard to see. The ffp at its max brightness is like a aimpoint at setting 6.
The Sfp is like a eotech at 1x. The dot in the middle is 1 moa. I like eotech's so it was exactly what I was looking for.
Basically
Sfp : eotech at 1x and mils are calibrated at 6.5
Ffp: dim aimpoint ( burgundy dot not red)at 1x and you can't see the mill line till around 3 power but its calibrated at any magnification .
Re: Bushnell 1-6.5x24 Elite Tactical
What's battery life like?
What's battery life like?
Re: Bushnell 1-6.5x24 Elite Tactical
Graf and son sfp it's 1057.00 free ship
http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/24507
Graf and son sfp it's 1057.00 free ship
http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/24507
Re: Bushnell 1-6.5x24 Elite Tactical
I'll agree with Finbox, I also have the SFP BTR-2. I like this scope a lot, while I don't think it matches my K-dot for close in speed it makes up for it down range where the BTR-2 shines. This scoped replaced a 1-4 PST and while I liked that scope, this one IMHO is much better but comes at double the price so it's not really a fair comparison. If your looking for a mil reticle and pretty decent turrets this scope fits nicely.
I'll agree with Finbox, I also have the SFP BTR-2. I like this scope a lot, while I don't think it matches my K-dot for close in speed it makes up for it down range where the BTR-2 shines. This scoped replaced a 1-4 PST and while I liked that scope, this one IMHO is much better but comes at double the price so it's not really a fair comparison. If your looking for a mil reticle and pretty decent turrets this scope fits nicely.
Re: Bushnell 1-6.5x24 Elite Tactical
Its major weak point is its turrets. That quick-zero feature makes it unsuitable to use with the turrets exposed. I really like the scope otherwise.
Its major weak point is its turrets. That quick-zero feature makes it unsuitable to use with the turrets exposed. I really like the scope otherwise.
Re: Bushnell 1-6.5x24 Elite Tactical
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kombayotch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Its major weak point is its turrets. That quick-zero feature makes it unsuitable to use with the turrets exposed. I really like the scope otherwise. </div></div>
For the 3-gun crowd having non exposed turrets is needed. Bumping the scope going in and out of ports, and barrels etc. and military use as well. Hiking while slung too.
Remember this is a carbine scope for fast sight pictures, not a precision scope.
Wait for the 1-8.5 that will come out next year, it will have exposed turrents
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kombayotch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Its major weak point is its turrets. That quick-zero feature makes it unsuitable to use with the turrets exposed. I really like the scope otherwise. </div></div>
For the 3-gun crowd having non exposed turrets is needed. Bumping the scope going in and out of ports, and barrels etc. and military use as well. Hiking while slung too.
Remember this is a carbine scope for fast sight pictures, not a precision scope.
Wait for the 1-8.5 that will come out next year, it will have exposed turrents
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Just so there's no confusion, the turrets are capped, 1/10 mil
I think something got lost in translation about their resettable (lift) function.
Still waiting myself for my demo to be returned, very excited. I have a feeling the new model will be quite pricey in comparison.
Just so there's no confusion, the turrets are capped, 1/10 mil
I think something got lost in translation about their resettable (lift) function.
Still waiting myself for my demo to be returned, very excited. I have a feeling the new model will be quite pricey in comparison.
Re: Bushnell 1-6.5x24 Elite Tactical
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: finbox</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kombayotch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Its major weak point is its turrets. That quick-zero feature makes it unsuitable to use with the turrets exposed. I really like the scope otherwise. </div></div>
For the 3-gun crowd having non exposed turrets is needed. Bumping the scope going in and out of ports, and barrels etc. and military use as well. Hiking while slung too.
Remember this is a carbine scope for fast sight pictures, not a precision scope.
Wait for the 1-8.5 that will come out next year, it will have exposed turrents
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You can have capped turrets that are actually usable when left uncapped. The ones on this scope are so flimsy that you could easily lift them and lose your zero just trying to make an adjustment in a hurry. They are the same cheesy turrets they use on the rest of the Elite 6500 series.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: finbox</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kombayotch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Its major weak point is its turrets. That quick-zero feature makes it unsuitable to use with the turrets exposed. I really like the scope otherwise. </div></div>
For the 3-gun crowd having non exposed turrets is needed. Bumping the scope going in and out of ports, and barrels etc. and military use as well. Hiking while slung too.
Remember this is a carbine scope for fast sight pictures, not a precision scope.
Wait for the 1-8.5 that will come out next year, it will have exposed turrents
</div></div>
You can have capped turrets that are actually usable when left uncapped. The ones on this scope are so flimsy that you could easily lift them and lose your zero just trying to make an adjustment in a hurry. They are the same cheesy turrets they use on the rest of the Elite 6500 series.
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I dont know why anybody would want to adjust the turrents on the fly. It would be like putting target turrets on a 6x eotech.
This scope does not even have crosshairs, or a horizontal mil line. And on the brt-1 it does not have a vertical mil line. It has bullet drop.
I dont know why anybody would want to adjust the turrents on the fly. It would be like putting target turrets on a 6x eotech.
This scope does not even have crosshairs, or a horizontal mil line. And on the brt-1 it does not have a vertical mil line. It has bullet drop.
Re: Bushnell 1-6.5x24 Elite Tactical
What difference does it make if the aiming point is a crosshair or a dot? My Vortex 1-4x also has a dot. It has turrets and I dial them in for long shots (>300 yards).
If you don't need turrets, then you aren't shooting anything at any appreciable distances, or you aren't doing it with any degree of precision if you are.
I've never understood this fear of bumping turrets in CQB use. Being a click or five off at close distances isn't going to make any
difference. For any kind of precision shot that it would, I'd rather have the option of dialing-in the scope. I suspect that I'm not the only one since, as the OP mentions, this scope does not seem to get a lot of attention outside of 3 gun circles.
What difference does it make if the aiming point is a crosshair or a dot? My Vortex 1-4x also has a dot. It has turrets and I dial them in for long shots (>300 yards).
If you don't need turrets, then you aren't shooting anything at any appreciable distances, or you aren't doing it with any degree of precision if you are.
I've never understood this fear of bumping turrets in CQB use. Being a click or five off at close distances isn't going to make any
difference. For any kind of precision shot that it would, I'd rather have the option of dialing-in the scope. I suspect that I'm not the only one since, as the OP mentions, this scope does not seem to get a lot of attention outside of 3 gun circles.
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3 gun guys shoot from 5 yards to 500 yards so your assumption is incorrect. You have a reticle, use it.
3 gun guys shoot from 5 yards to 500 yards so your assumption is incorrect. You have a reticle, use it.
Re: Bushnell 1-6.5x24 Elite Tactical
Received the BTR2 FFP, mounted it up on my backup 3 gun rifle and sighted it in last weekend. While the illumination is not as bright as the Swarovski Z6i I found it usable in the daylight. Didn't spend lots of time with it because of the wind and cold, but even with the sun reflecting off the snow illumination was plenty visable.
Received the BTR2 FFP, mounted it up on my backup 3 gun rifle and sighted it in last weekend. While the illumination is not as bright as the Swarovski Z6i I found it usable in the daylight. Didn't spend lots of time with it because of the wind and cold, but even with the sun reflecting off the snow illumination was plenty visable.
Re: Bushnell 1-6.5x24 Elite Tactical
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KTM690Enduro</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Received the BTR2 FFP, mounted it up on my backup 3 gun rifle and sighted it in last weekend. While the illumination is not as bright as the Swarovski Z6i I found it usable in the daylight. Didn't spend lots of time with it because of the wind and cold, but even with the sun reflecting off the snow illumination was plenty visable. </div></div>
Ktm690Enduro,
Congrats on the new glass. Get a chance to take any pics? Mine has been back ordered for what seems indefinitely. Very unfortunate. Would like to hear more of your thoughts after you get more time with it. There's very little user feedback on it; I've seen one video review but it was on the BTR-1 in SFP I believe.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KTM690Enduro</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Received the BTR2 FFP, mounted it up on my backup 3 gun rifle and sighted it in last weekend. While the illumination is not as bright as the Swarovski Z6i I found it usable in the daylight. Didn't spend lots of time with it because of the wind and cold, but even with the sun reflecting off the snow illumination was plenty visable. </div></div>
Ktm690Enduro,
Congrats on the new glass. Get a chance to take any pics? Mine has been back ordered for what seems indefinitely. Very unfortunate. Would like to hear more of your thoughts after you get more time with it. There's very little user feedback on it; I've seen one video review but it was on the BTR-1 in SFP I believe.
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