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Krieger barrel worth it?

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I am considering a Krieger barrel:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/637159/...stainless-steel

The fact this barrel is in stock is attractive because I had hoped to have the gun ready by late spring.

A few questions:

1) It says gunsmith installation required, but it has the barrel extension and locator pin. Would this barrel require any special tools that wouldn't be required for any other barrel?

2) Should I get this barrel?

I am looking for accuracy. I am an engineer, but this will be my first AR build.
 
Re: Krieger barrel worth it?

Ed,

First off, there's virtually nothing on an AR that requires "gunsmith installation." The installation of the extension and the locating of the gas port, yes, but these are already done on this example. Other than that, the AR is clearly the finest rifle on the planet which can be whacked together with a rubber mallet.

Kreiger makes very good barrels,a nd there's a good many competitive HP Service Rifle shooters who use them. Properly installed (correctly torqued, properly installed FS tower or gas block, and a well aligned gas tube) it should be a shooter. If this is your first build, I'd recommend Glen Zediker's book, "The Competitive AR-15 Builder's Guide." Very well done photos and complete descriptions to walk you through each and every phase, including a number of different types of builds. Good info all the way around. You might also want to check out the books by Derrick Martin and John Feamster for general info on match rifles, but Zediker's is probably the best suited to what you're doing here.

Hope that helps,
 
Re: Krieger barrel worth it?

special tools? When I've put these together, I had the following: a vice, go/no go gauges, action block, nut wrench, torque wrench, gas tube alignment pin.

These are very easy to assemble so no gunsmith necessary as mentioned above but you do want to get the alignment right and properly torqued.

I doubt you'll have any issues with the bbl extension but you can't always count on it being right for your gun...hence the go/no go gauges. Better to have them, check and all is good then not have them and find out that the HS is a bit off.

 
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And don't forget the big rubber mallet!
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Re: Krieger barrel worth it?

They're different contours (one is a DCM, the other a standard HBAR), and the Fulton is showing a pre-ban (threaded for flash suppresor) while the Midway barrels pictured is post-ban (unthreaded). Wouldn't expect one to shoot better than the other based on contour alone, so that leaves the weight and price to be your deciding factors. Sure either one will work out just fine for you.
 
Re: Krieger barrel worth it?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ed Kern</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am considering a Krieger barrel:
2) Should I get this barrel?

I am looking for accuracy. I am an engineer, but this will be my first AR build.
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Depends on the application, but giving the 'engineer' status, a Krieger, in this particular market, is worth every single dime.

I buy shot out Krieger 7.7's from the high power croud here in town for pennies on the dollar, cut them back to 18 inches and they shoot with the best brand new Colt barrels I've ever seen, and the original CM Colt 7 twist 20 inch barrel, in my opinion is one of the best barrels I've ever shot.

That is just my opinion, and there's no cost in that.

The Krieger is a little extravagant, and it's your money, but I'll bet in the next week or so you'll see junk battle rifle barrels go for more.

PM me if you have any questions.

sean
 
Re: Krieger barrel worth it?

I'm definitely going to give Krieger a call. I like the idea of having a fluted barrel. Now I just need to determine if the difference between 223 rem and 223 wylde cambering has any impact in my application. Any thoughts?
 
Re: Krieger barrel worth it?

a wylde chamber theoretically should not be as accurate as 223 rem since its cut to allow for the use of the higher pressured 556 rounds. but i know for a fact that a wyld chambered barrel can shoot.
Since I'm pretty sure I've never seen a highly scientific study done on the differences between the two chambers before, I think it all comes down to if you ever plan on feeding the rifle nato surplus in the future.
 
Re: Krieger barrel worth it?

Ed,

Go with the Wylde chamber and don't look back. Bill Wylde pioneered the development of the true, match grade AR systems, and virtually every match evolution in a modern AR goes right back to his work. As for the chamber itself, it's the Gold Standard for NM Service Rifles and the so-called Spaceguns (NRA Match Rifle ARs), and is what's used by at least 95% of the competitors on the line at Perry every year. Trust me, they shoot. And again, we're talking about ARs here, not bolt guns. Trying to set an AR up according to what works best in a bolt gun is a recipe for a real headache. Ditto for trying to load them like bolt guns. Different animals entirely and they have to be treated differently.
 
Re: Krieger barrel worth it?

Thanks so much for the input guys. I've decided I'm going to stop deluding myself into thinking I can get this thing build by spring. I'm just going to order a krieger from krieger so I can get exactly what I want.

This is what I've come up with:
20", 1:7.7, fluted, 223 wylde chambered, HBAR, bead blasted

Thanks again for the great input everyone
 
Re: Krieger barrel worth it?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ed Kern</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am considering a Krieger barrel:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/637159/...stainless-steel

The fact this barrel is in stock is attractive because I had hoped to have the gun ready by late spring.

A few questions:

1) It says gunsmith installation required, but it has the barrel extension and locator pin. Would this barrel require any special tools that wouldn't be required for any other barrel?

2) Should I get this barrel?

I am looking for accuracy. I am an engineer, but this will be my first AR build.
</div></div>

I've done ARs but my preferred rifles are Steel and wood. I have 2 Kregier's waiting to be screwed on 2 M1A test beds when I burn out the standard grade barrels in ammo testing. I've known of the Kreiger's because he came up under Boots Obermeyer who's seconds were better than most people's premium barrels. Can't beat the Kreiger barrels.

Worst case, I'm sure they'd mount the barrel for you if you like, just contact them at: [email protected]

These are very good and supportive people. Most importantly, when I get a barrel from them, I KNOW exactly what chamber I have in the tube, because I ask.

PS an old friend of mine shot 198 out of 200 at Perry with an M1A and a Kreiger barrel at 1000 yards (iron sights).
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin Thomas</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And don't forget the big rubber mallet!
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Garands and M14 types I always use a Rawhide mallet. Changed a barrel on an 03 last month.. Rubber Mallet. Indexed nicely.

We used to have to Torque the mouse gun barrels, but that was years ago. I won't work on them anymore. But then there are guys that want to adjust front sights with 20lb sledge hammers!
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Re: Krieger barrel worth it?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jhnmdahl</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You might want to price a barrel from Krieger directly - their prices aren't that bad, but you might have to wait for them to make it. I did exactly that, and found they were happy to answer any questions I had as a first-time builder too.

Check out:

http://www.kriegerbarrels.com/DCM__AR_15-c1246-wp3394.htm

and their order form at:

http://www.kriegerbarrels.com/RapidCat/WebPageImages/1246/2559//Krieger_Barrel_Order.doc

John

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Nice to see another happy Kreiger customer. They are good people and make fine tubes. Funny, first time I unpacked one of their tubes, I was shocked at the quality. And here there was a time when I thought USGI M14 NM barrels were good
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But that's in the days when that was the only NM tubes to use.
 
Re: Krieger barrel worth it?

Krieger is probably one of THEE best in the business. Nothing but good things I hear.
 
Re: Krieger barrel worth it?

Okay, good to hear. I just ordered a pre-ban, HBAR, 223 wylde, 1:7.7, fluted barrel from them. Should have it around April.
 
Re: Krieger barrel worth it?

On the subject. Anyone with experience with Krieger vs Douglas?
 
Re: Krieger barrel worth it?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ed Kern</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Okay, good to hear. I just ordered a pre-ban, HBAR, 223 wylde, 1:7.7, fluted barrel from them. Should have it around April.</div></div>
Pre-ban?????
 
Re: Krieger barrel worth it?

Check out Compass Lake Engineering also. I ordered mine from them for about $550. 20" 1:7.7 DCM contour, SDM fluting under the handguard, standard in front of the gas block, and bead blasting. Couldn't be happier.
 
Re: Krieger barrel worth it?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smschulz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ed Kern</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Okay, good to hear. I just ordered a pre-ban, HBAR, 223 wylde, 1:7.7, fluted barrel from them. Should have it around April.</div></div>
Pre-ban?????
</div></div>

Meaning prior to the '94 ban. Some states continued with the ban criteria even after the federal ban expired. Looks like some manufacturers continue to refer to the barrels as pre ban (threaded muzzle) and post ban (plain muzzle) as an easy way to differentiate between the two.
 
Re: Krieger barrel worth it?

Krieger is top shelf and if you have the funds there is no harm or foul in getting good gear. On the other hand if it adds any value it also depends on your skill level and if your skill matches up.

If you can shoot master or high master scores and can call your shots well then get a better barrel. If not more practice and ammo would be a better bang for the buck. It makes little sense to get a gun that can hold the "X" ring if you can not hold the 10 ring.
 
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