Let me know if you made it past the first paragraph.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/31/opinio...n&_r=1&
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/31/opinio...n&_r=1&
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Re: Let's Give Up on the Constitution
That fucker took way much LSD.
That fucker took way much LSD.
Re: Let's Give Up on the Constitution
That guy really needs more lead in his diet.
That guy really needs more lead in his diet.
Re: Let's Give Up on the Constitution
First paragraph? I didn't even make it past nytimes, in your link.
It's a rag - to poop on.
First paragraph? I didn't even make it past nytimes, in your link.
It's a rag - to poop on.
Re: Let's Give Up on the Constitution
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He's right. We should ditch the constitution and have a King instead. </div></div>
Are we there yet?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He's right. We should ditch the constitution and have a King instead. </div></div>
Are we there yet?
Re: Let's Give Up on the Constitution
We're approaching.
Doesn't a monarchy just make good common sense? No gridlock, no failed negotiations. The king would be able to unilaterally do what was in "the peoples" and "the country's" best interest.
The fiscal cliff thing woulda been "resolved" long ago.
We're approaching.
Doesn't a monarchy just make good common sense? No gridlock, no failed negotiations. The king would be able to unilaterally do what was in "the peoples" and "the country's" best interest.
The fiscal cliff thing woulda been "resolved" long ago.
Re: Let's Give Up on the Constitution
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CASDB</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Why is our country jacked? Even constitutional lawyers don't believe in the framework of our country anymore. </div></div>
And why would they? Why would anyone? What did the constitution of the United States ever do? It's not as if it spurred the greatest, wealthiest, most free country to ever grace the planet or anything...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CASDB</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Why is our country jacked? Even constitutional lawyers don't believe in the framework of our country anymore. </div></div>
And why would they? Why would anyone? What did the constitution of the United States ever do? It's not as if it spurred the greatest, wealthiest, most free country to ever grace the planet or anything...
Re: Let's Give Up on the Constitution
sorry, don't click on nytimes links...
sorry, don't click on nytimes links...
Re: Let's Give Up on the Constitution
I dont think crap like this comes from a guy like this because the NY Times believes in the 1A and encourages its writers to be edgey.
The times is the political organ of a political party and this is being floated from on high to gauge the resistance and plant a seed of belief. Hell even Sotomayer went on record with the same tripe.
You know when I was young and had heart I almost bought into the idea "What do men from 200 years ago know about todays world?" Now that I am older I consider myself in the group that has brains.
The Founding Fathers cared little for what may come in modern society and did not try to write a Constitution that took into account technology. What they knew to the core was human nature and what resides in the heart of man. They developed a Constitution to ensure the good and protect against the evil. They didnt need to know about our technology but they knew that human nature was a constant and designed a document based on fostering the good and taming the bad.
Even Aesop, who had human nature nailed, is being changed today. On Sprout channel kids are being taught that it is right for the ant to give to the grasshopper. Well that doesnt fly in my house.
I am hearing this crap more often and everytime you see it a short letter to the editor stating your respectful disagreement is the least you can do.
Contact - [email protected]
Dear Sir/Madam,
I just came across the op-ed "Lets Give up on the Constitution" printed 12/30/12 in the NY Times.
I appreciate your using the First Amendment right guaranteed by the Constitution to print an op-ed attacking it. I understand the authors point that at times in our history it has been violated and at other times it is viewed as an impediment - I get it - but lets not forget this document provides freedom to the individual like no other has in history. Its result has been the most prosperous nation in history, a prosperity that does not only benefit citizens under the Constitution but is shared with other nations, friend as well as foe.
The Founding Fathers cared little for what may come in modern society and did not try to write a Constitution that took into account technology. What they knew to the core was human nature and what resides in the heart of man. They developed a Constitution to ensure the good and protect against the evil. They didnt need to know about our technology but they knew that human nature was a constant and designed a document based on fostering the good and taming the bad.
Even Aesop, who had human nature nailed, is being questioned today. On Sprout channel kids are being taught that it is right for the ant to give to the grasshopper and the lesson is ignored.
Well this thinking doesnt fly in my house.
I find it odd that attacking the Constitution is currently in vogue where as defending it was the norm in the not too distant past. If we are to remain a free Republic protected by the rule of law the Constitution should be promoted in all cases whether defending against excesses of the Patriot Act or during times of gridlock designed to protect a minority against simple majority rule.
Respectfully,
xxxxxx
I dont think crap like this comes from a guy like this because the NY Times believes in the 1A and encourages its writers to be edgey.
The times is the political organ of a political party and this is being floated from on high to gauge the resistance and plant a seed of belief. Hell even Sotomayer went on record with the same tripe.
You know when I was young and had heart I almost bought into the idea "What do men from 200 years ago know about todays world?" Now that I am older I consider myself in the group that has brains.
The Founding Fathers cared little for what may come in modern society and did not try to write a Constitution that took into account technology. What they knew to the core was human nature and what resides in the heart of man. They developed a Constitution to ensure the good and protect against the evil. They didnt need to know about our technology but they knew that human nature was a constant and designed a document based on fostering the good and taming the bad.
Even Aesop, who had human nature nailed, is being changed today. On Sprout channel kids are being taught that it is right for the ant to give to the grasshopper. Well that doesnt fly in my house.
I am hearing this crap more often and everytime you see it a short letter to the editor stating your respectful disagreement is the least you can do.
Contact - [email protected]
Dear Sir/Madam,
I just came across the op-ed "Lets Give up on the Constitution" printed 12/30/12 in the NY Times.
I appreciate your using the First Amendment right guaranteed by the Constitution to print an op-ed attacking it. I understand the authors point that at times in our history it has been violated and at other times it is viewed as an impediment - I get it - but lets not forget this document provides freedom to the individual like no other has in history. Its result has been the most prosperous nation in history, a prosperity that does not only benefit citizens under the Constitution but is shared with other nations, friend as well as foe.
The Founding Fathers cared little for what may come in modern society and did not try to write a Constitution that took into account technology. What they knew to the core was human nature and what resides in the heart of man. They developed a Constitution to ensure the good and protect against the evil. They didnt need to know about our technology but they knew that human nature was a constant and designed a document based on fostering the good and taming the bad.
Even Aesop, who had human nature nailed, is being questioned today. On Sprout channel kids are being taught that it is right for the ant to give to the grasshopper and the lesson is ignored.
Well this thinking doesnt fly in my house.
I find it odd that attacking the Constitution is currently in vogue where as defending it was the norm in the not too distant past. If we are to remain a free Republic protected by the rule of law the Constitution should be promoted in all cases whether defending against excesses of the Patriot Act or during times of gridlock designed to protect a minority against simple majority rule.
Respectfully,
xxxxxx
Re: Let's Give Up on the Constitution
I never cared for the NYT. Their ink always comes off on My butt when I wipe with it.
I never cared for the NYT. Their ink always comes off on My butt when I wipe with it.
Re: Let's Give Up on the Constitution
The Constitution and its Amendments are as much a living thing as we are willing to believe it to be; no more, no less.
Folks have been running under the radar and defying it, defiling it, disputing it, since before it was even ratified. Whether or not it can resist such mistreatment is a measure of not itself, but of ourselves.
When we look to others to provide that resistance, we have already surrendered.
I know not what others may do...
Greg
The Constitution and its Amendments are as much a living thing as we are willing to believe it to be; no more, no less.
Folks have been running under the radar and defying it, defiling it, disputing it, since before it was even ratified. Whether or not it can resist such mistreatment is a measure of not itself, but of ourselves.
When we look to others to provide that resistance, we have already surrendered.
I know not what others may do...
Greg
Re: Let's Give Up on the Constitution
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pmclaine</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I dont think crap like this comes from a guy like this because the NY Times believes in the 1A and encourages its writers to be edgey.
The times is the political organ of a political party and this is being floated from on high to gauge the resistance and plant a seed of belief. Hell even Sotomayer went on record with the same tripe.
You know when I was young and had heart I almost bought into the idea "What do men from 200 years ago know about todays world?" Now that I am older I consider myself in the group that has brains.
The Founding Fathers cared little for what may come in modern society and did not try to write a Constitution that took into account technology. What they knew to the core was human nature and what resides in the heart of man. They developed a Constitution to ensure the good and protect against the evil. They didnt need to know about our technology but they knew that human nature was a constant and designed a document based on fostering the good and taming the bad.
Even Aesop, who had human nature nailed, is being changed today. On Sprout channel kids are being taught that it is right for the ant to give to the grasshopper. Well that doesnt fly in my house.
I am hearing this crap more often and everytime you see it a short letter to the editor stating your respectful disagreement is the least you can do.
Contact - [email protected]
Dear Sir/Madam,
I just came across the op-ed "Lets Give up on the Constitution" printed 12/30/12 in the NY Times.
I appreciate your using the First Amendment right guaranteed by the Constitution to print an op-ed attacking it. I understand the authors point that at times in our history it has been violated and at other times it is viewed as an impediment - I get it - but lets not forget this document provides freedom to the individual like no other has in history. Its result has been the most prosperous nation in history, a prosperity that does not only benefit citizens under the Constitution but is shared with other nations, friend as well as foe.
The Founding Fathers cared little for what may come in modern society and did not try to write a Constitution that took into account technology. What they knew to the core was human nature and what resides in the heart of man. They developed a Constitution to ensure the good and protect against the evil. They didnt need to know about our technology but they knew that human nature was a constant and designed a document based on fostering the good and taming the bad.
Even Aesop, who had human nature nailed, is being questioned today. On Sprout channel kids are being taught that it is right for the ant to give to the grasshopper and the lesson is ignored.
Well this thinking doesnt fly in my house.
I find it odd that attacking the Constitution is currently in vogue where as defending it was the norm in the not too distant past. If we are to remain a free Republic protected by the rule of law the Constitution should be promoted in all cases whether defending against excesses of the Patriot Act or during times of gridlock designed to protect a minority against simple majority rule.
Respectfully,
xxxxxx
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This was excellent!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pmclaine</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I dont think crap like this comes from a guy like this because the NY Times believes in the 1A and encourages its writers to be edgey.
The times is the political organ of a political party and this is being floated from on high to gauge the resistance and plant a seed of belief. Hell even Sotomayer went on record with the same tripe.
You know when I was young and had heart I almost bought into the idea "What do men from 200 years ago know about todays world?" Now that I am older I consider myself in the group that has brains.
The Founding Fathers cared little for what may come in modern society and did not try to write a Constitution that took into account technology. What they knew to the core was human nature and what resides in the heart of man. They developed a Constitution to ensure the good and protect against the evil. They didnt need to know about our technology but they knew that human nature was a constant and designed a document based on fostering the good and taming the bad.
Even Aesop, who had human nature nailed, is being changed today. On Sprout channel kids are being taught that it is right for the ant to give to the grasshopper. Well that doesnt fly in my house.
I am hearing this crap more often and everytime you see it a short letter to the editor stating your respectful disagreement is the least you can do.
Contact - [email protected]
Dear Sir/Madam,
I just came across the op-ed "Lets Give up on the Constitution" printed 12/30/12 in the NY Times.
I appreciate your using the First Amendment right guaranteed by the Constitution to print an op-ed attacking it. I understand the authors point that at times in our history it has been violated and at other times it is viewed as an impediment - I get it - but lets not forget this document provides freedom to the individual like no other has in history. Its result has been the most prosperous nation in history, a prosperity that does not only benefit citizens under the Constitution but is shared with other nations, friend as well as foe.
The Founding Fathers cared little for what may come in modern society and did not try to write a Constitution that took into account technology. What they knew to the core was human nature and what resides in the heart of man. They developed a Constitution to ensure the good and protect against the evil. They didnt need to know about our technology but they knew that human nature was a constant and designed a document based on fostering the good and taming the bad.
Even Aesop, who had human nature nailed, is being questioned today. On Sprout channel kids are being taught that it is right for the ant to give to the grasshopper and the lesson is ignored.
Well this thinking doesnt fly in my house.
I find it odd that attacking the Constitution is currently in vogue where as defending it was the norm in the not too distant past. If we are to remain a free Republic protected by the rule of law the Constitution should be promoted in all cases whether defending against excesses of the Patriot Act or during times of gridlock designed to protect a minority against simple majority rule.
Respectfully,
xxxxxx
</div></div>
This was excellent!
Re: Let's Give Up on the Constitution
Agreed, great job pmclaine!
Agreed, great job pmclaine!
Re: Let's Give Up on the Constitution
The amazing thing is that these morons consider themselves educated. They go to the right schools, get hired to teach at the right schools, and are too arrogant to realize that they have been passed along because of their political conformity, not their critical thinking.
These schills are too ignorant and arrogant to realize that THEY are not the ones who will flourish when they complete their destruction of the rule of law.
They will survive for as long as their opponents respect the law and no longer.
I love this land. I love the principles of the Declaration embodied in the Constitution. I gave an oath to those principles that I will honor to my last breath. My respect for the rule of law and peace compels me to find every way possible to avoid the fight they seem determined to have, but if they will have it no other way, then so be it.
These fool sheep, should they succeed in destroying the law, will come to a terrible realization that propaganda and a title are no defense from a lion.
I consider it an act of mercy for the enemies of the Constitution every time I vote, everytime I oppose their communist agenda, everytime I attempt to save them from themselves. If these fools had half a brain, or even an animal instinct for self preservation, they would join me in restoring respect for the Constitution and building up the rule of law. Once these statists make a man choose between his unalterable principles and the law, they will have removed the only restraint that enables their existence. There is no rational explanation for the self destructive behavior of the modern liberal. It defies all the laws of nature and logic, like a parasite which destroys it's host. They will rue the day the patriot physicians of this nation are forced to stop treating the diseased patient with love and begin excising this parasitic cancer with prejudice.
The amazing thing is that these morons consider themselves educated. They go to the right schools, get hired to teach at the right schools, and are too arrogant to realize that they have been passed along because of their political conformity, not their critical thinking.
These schills are too ignorant and arrogant to realize that THEY are not the ones who will flourish when they complete their destruction of the rule of law.
They will survive for as long as their opponents respect the law and no longer.
I love this land. I love the principles of the Declaration embodied in the Constitution. I gave an oath to those principles that I will honor to my last breath. My respect for the rule of law and peace compels me to find every way possible to avoid the fight they seem determined to have, but if they will have it no other way, then so be it.
These fool sheep, should they succeed in destroying the law, will come to a terrible realization that propaganda and a title are no defense from a lion.
I consider it an act of mercy for the enemies of the Constitution every time I vote, everytime I oppose their communist agenda, everytime I attempt to save them from themselves. If these fools had half a brain, or even an animal instinct for self preservation, they would join me in restoring respect for the Constitution and building up the rule of law. Once these statists make a man choose between his unalterable principles and the law, they will have removed the only restraint that enables their existence. There is no rational explanation for the self destructive behavior of the modern liberal. It defies all the laws of nature and logic, like a parasite which destroys it's host. They will rue the day the patriot physicians of this nation are forced to stop treating the diseased patient with love and begin excising this parasitic cancer with prejudice.
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good points and im really glad to hear someone say republic. seems like everytime someone(news) talks about our government they say democracy. my history book says republic and i wondered if that changed at some point and i didnt know it.
good points and im really glad to hear someone say republic. seems like everytime someone(news) talks about our government they say democracy. my history book says republic and i wondered if that changed at some point and i didnt know it.
C
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Re: Let's Give Up on the Constitution
Devils Advocate,
Something had better change, because this country is rapidly falling apart and heading straight down the toilet!
Scrap the entire Constituation, NO!
Change the way the political system works in this country, HELL YES!!!
Washington is broke, and if the dysfunction is not corrected, then this will cease to be the greatest country on the planet.
I don't pretend to have the answers, but someone a hell of a lot smarter than me had better put something out there that we can back and support.
With the state of this Country, Gun Control should not even be on the Politcal Radar Screen, but that shows how bad things have really gotten. Politicians jump on the Media Driven Band Wagon, and ignore the critical issues that have driven this country in the worst shape that it has been in since the Great Depression.
Are 200+ year old documents going to save us? IMHO in some cases we have to get back to those foundations, in other cases we need to go in the complete opposite direction.
Not sure who has the answers, but hopefully someone does, and a new movement gets underway very soon!
M Richardson
Devils Advocate,
Something had better change, because this country is rapidly falling apart and heading straight down the toilet!
Scrap the entire Constituation, NO!
Change the way the political system works in this country, HELL YES!!!
Washington is broke, and if the dysfunction is not corrected, then this will cease to be the greatest country on the planet.
I don't pretend to have the answers, but someone a hell of a lot smarter than me had better put something out there that we can back and support.
With the state of this Country, Gun Control should not even be on the Politcal Radar Screen, but that shows how bad things have really gotten. Politicians jump on the Media Driven Band Wagon, and ignore the critical issues that have driven this country in the worst shape that it has been in since the Great Depression.
Are 200+ year old documents going to save us? IMHO in some cases we have to get back to those foundations, in other cases we need to go in the complete opposite direction.
Not sure who has the answers, but hopefully someone does, and a new movement gets underway very soon!
M Richardson
