Find owner of Vehicle - Make, Model,Partial plate?

[mram10]

A friend of mine's son, had a thug try to pick a fight with him in a parking lot here in town. The kid did a nice job of trying to diffuse the situation, but when he turn to walk off, this guy hit him in the eye. The thug was wearing rings, so it cut Logan's eye and he had $1700 in medical bills.

The police got the make and model plus part of the license plate from the security cameras, but said they can't find out who owns the car since the license plate was only partially seen. We need to identify him to press charges and get the medical bills paid for.

I need to help this kid, since he is working full time and going to college. How can I find the information needed guys? Thanks.

Black Honda Element Utah Plate 523

 

[1911fan]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

PD should be able to run with that, IMO. Got make, model, and half a plate. Thug's probably got a record.


1911fan

 

[mram10]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

"Should" be able to, but it has been 2 months since the report was filed. I called a police dispatcher who acted very helpful at first. I told her it occured in Idaho and she said, "Oh, well they should be able to find it for you. We can't help since it happened there." I explained the car was licensed in Utah and she continued to defer to the Idaho Police.

 

[High Binder]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

If they gave a shit, they'd have spent a few minutes figuring it out by now. I'm betting you'll have to subpoena the police to actually get the info.

 

[athhud]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

A thug in an Element? He must be a baller....

 

[High Binder]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

 

[dang472]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

I had to deal with a hit-n-run when my wife got side swiped through an intersection. My wife told the Mesa, AZ police that it was a silver Mitsubishi Galant with a yellow license plate frame and she knew 3 digits of the plate. Police could care less, basically said, "you have insurance right?". I lost my temper and told them I would find the car. I drove to the local bar and found a warm Galant with front and side damage, plus the license plate frame and number matching my wife's description. I blocked the car with mine and called the cops that originally took the report. Waited almost 25 mins for them to show up and when they did, they stated they still couldn't do anything because of lack of evidence. Shit like this makes you wonder why you are the responsible citizen who plays by the rules.

 

[mram10]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

Dang472,
I hear ya. I have guys I served with that became cops, and I let them know all the time how disappointed I am with the "service" they give to the citizens.

I didn't even think of a subpoena. Thanks for the advice.

 

[dang472]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

I don't really put it on the cops so much as the entire system. With lawyers involved, I could have had a full video of the guy hitting my car and it still would've cost me more than the repairs. Add a huge illegal problem in AZ with drivers not having ID, let alone a driver's license, the cops pretty much know justice isn't worth the time.

 

[spaniel]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

About eight years ago 2 punks though it would be funny to take their aunt's truck out and shoot random people with a paintball gun. I was out running and they came an inch from taking out my left eye. They were dumb enough to make a second pass, and I took out the windshield with a rock....as well as getting all but 2 digits on the plate.

The police acted like they couldn't figure it out, seemed to me they didn't try very hard even though I was standing in the office within 5 minutes of the incident with paint on my face and a welt on the edge of my eye socket. 2 days later I saw the same truck again and got the entire plate.

They got the address....1/4 mile from my house....but made up a BS excuse that while the aunt admitted that her nephew had the keys to her truck while she was out of town, they could not pursue it any further or talk to the nephew because they did not Mirandize the aunt prior to asking her any questions.

Unless you force their hand, many (not all) departments will find any reason not to do anything unless a serious felony was committed.

 

[dang472]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

When my stolen truck was found 2 months later in the desert, I asked the officer if they were going to do an investigation and fingerprint the truck. He actually laughed at me over the phone. There was evidence of other stolen vehicles (registrations and keys) and property from a house in the bed, still he just told me I was lucky to have it recovered. My 2 experiences with AZ police basically showed me I could steal a vehicle, hit-n-run other people, and most likely get away with it.

 

[kmrtnsn]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

We cannot run partial plates in CLETS or NLETS.

 

[mram10]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

kmrt,
The dispatcher in Utah I talked to said they could. Is it a different system? Is there no other way to find this person? I am sure you can see the importance of finding this guy.

As for the other stories, they make me sick. I can see how some might see the police as a means to keep goverment safe as opposed to protecting and serving the people.

 

[KYpatriot]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

Wife was hit by a POS that ran a red light and then fled the scene. Cops found the car and driver less than two miles away. Refused to arrest the driver, and when we pressed charges over running from the scene of an accident (my two year old was in the back seat, thankfully well strapped in a five point car seat), the cops refused to do anything. My guess is they were covering for someone they knew.

This has been my experience my whole life. Cops are a more of a threat to the law abiding around here than a help. Just the way it is. Corruption is rampant, especially in small towns. I do not trust them to do the right thing if any kind of ban or confiscation passes, because of the track record they have. You will see a lot of "confiscated" guns on the black market.

We will REALLY need some stand up cops in this country if what I think is coming in the future actually happens. I think there will be many small departments who otherwise will see it as their opportunity to finally "run their town" openly.

 

[Slapchop]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If they gave a shit, they'd have spent a few minutes figuring it out by now. I'm betting you'll have to subpoena the police to actually get the info. </div></div>

Subpoena them for what? A vehicle description and an out of state partial on a plate? Info that the OP already has.

Some cops are lazy but some of you have a misconception about how things work. There is no crystal ball that allows us to determine vehicle owners of a partial plate info and that's providing the the information is correct to begin with.

You also have to take into consideration that some of these investigations will go no where. You determine vehicle ownership but now you have to find out who was operating the vehicle when the incident took place and who actually committed the crime. All this while crossing state lines for what amounts to a simple assault. Good luck with that.

As far as hit and runs go, don't know how it works in other parts but around here, if you are the victim of a hit and run property damage only. No arrest is warranted if the other party is found. The only time the guy that took off is subject to arrest is if he is DWI/DUI or if there is injuries involved.

Just cause you're the victim of a crime and things don't go the way you'd like for them too after the police respond, doesn't mean that there is corruption involved. Wonder how many actually even know the definition of the word corruption. Its used out of context routinely here.

 

[mram10]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

Slapchop,
After your comments, can you see why we have a problem with the way the cops do business?

"A simple assault"? If you boy were out to dinner with his girlfriend and was punched in the eye, costing him $1700 in medical bills, how would you feel?

As for a "crystal ball", the Utah dispatcher TOLD me that they had software that could use partial plate info. Is it so hard to punch in those 3 numbers along with make and model to find this scum ball?

I hope I have misunderstood some of what you have said. If not, then you have shown yourself to be part of the problem and should have yourself removed from "public service". There are for too many in that business for their own gain instead of actually serving the public.

 

[dang472]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

The problem is exactly how Slapchop stated. Say you use the partial plate info to find the owner of the vehicle. Maybe the guy who did the assault was using his mom's or buddy's car. You will be bogged down in the court system for just a chance to make this guy pay. What if this dipshit is unemployed, in college, on EBT, etc. You won't see a dime. My family is battling in court over estate issues for the last 2 years. A simple text message from our lawyer costs like $85. They get $350/hr for "research" on your case. These are the events in life where you end up paying the bill and become a far bitter person than when you started. I'm only 30 years old and have had enough of these instances to really give me a pessimistic outlook on the legal system.

 

[Bowman]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mram10</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Slapchop,
After your comments, can you see why we have a problem with the way the cops do business?

"A simple assault"? If you boy were out to dinner with his girlfriend and was punched in the eye, costing him $1700 in medical bills, how would you feel?

As for a "crystal ball", the Utah dispatcher TOLD me that they had software that could use partial plate info. Is it so hard to punch in those 3 numbers along with make and model to find this scum ball?

I hope I have misunderstood some of what you have said. If not, then you have shown yourself to be part of the problem and should have yourself removed from "public service". There are for too many in that business for their own gain instead of actually serving the public. </div></div>

You bad mouth cops and their services by making generalized statements while in the same breath, asking them to help you out? Oh irony.....

You are also attempting to identify this individual for the purpose of the $1700 dollar cut to your friends eye. The Police are NOT here for anybody's civil case.

Slapchop meant "simple assault" as in cut and dry. There were no other circumstances; the assault didn't take place during a kidnapping, robbery etc, thereby making it "simple."

You need to grow some thicker skin and stop perceiving everything as an attack on you or your friend. If you hate the cops, that's cool...just don't ask or expect them to do something for you especially when you don't understand what they are supposed to do.

Calling for Slapchop's removal over your lack of understanding and making the generalized statement that "too many in that business for their own gain...." just emphasizes the type of person you are. What gain exactly do they enjoy? Dealing with people who think they know the job or the law better?

I'd explain exactly all the legal proceedings and protocol to you but I'm sure you'd somehow perceive it as an attack on you just because it's not in your favor. So I'll let you figure it out on your own.

Good luck getting help with that attitude.

 

[BearGuide]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

If a victim called the PD here, gave a partial plate number or even a full plate number, state, make model, etc. I CANNOT run that plate for you from this state or any other. I CANNOT even look it up for myself. Am I lazy? Do I have a "not my problem" attitude as a cop? NOPE. I CANNOT run plates for any reason, other than my own criminal investigations. I CANNOT run a plate for any other person, any other entity, for any reason unless it comes as an official request through a teletype message, sent from a bonifide police department, including a case number and investigating officer. That is the way it is. Every plate, every person ran through the system has to be logged in a log book with a reason why the person/plate was ran. I cannot just randomly run checks of plates or people for whatever I want.

Another concern for me would be who the fuck are you? Are you an ex-boyfriend stalker trying to locate your ex-girlfriends new fuck partner? You saw a cute girl at the local stop and rob and now want to find out what her name is and where she lives to strike up a new romance? Are you a car thief looking to see if the car you just stole has been reported stolen? Any number of reason's could be thought of as to why police departments don't run plates for just any person calling.

A dispatcher cannot run any information at all through the system without first being asked to do so by an official source.

As for the "simple assault" designation, that is exactly what it is called. It is not meant to mean that the assault is not important, it is another way of saying that it is a misdemeanor assault. Don't take it personal.

Most people do not understand the restraints put on LEO's when investigating a crime, whether a simple assault or a homicide, rules have to be followed. In my state, I CANNOT arrest you for a misdemeanor committed outside of my presence, with very few exceptions. This means if you and a stranger get into a fight in the grocery store, you get struck in the eye and are bleeding, and he has bruised knuckles, pretty obvious that he was the aggressor, right? He should be arrested, right? Not so........it did not happen in my presence, it is not a felony, it is not domestic violence. He walks away with a summons to court. Is that my fault? Am I a donut eating fat fuck pig? Am I non caring to your predicament? Just want to get back to the station to surf porn and figure out other ways to violate your rights? NOT. It is the constraints put on me by the law.

 

[EventHorizon]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bowman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mram10</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Slapchop,
After your comments, can you see why we have a problem with the way the cops do business?

"A simple assault"? If you boy were out to dinner with his girlfriend and was punched in the eye, costing him $1700 in medical bills, how would you feel?

As for a "crystal ball", the Utah dispatcher TOLD me that they had software that could use partial plate info. Is it so hard to punch in those 3 numbers along with make and model to find this scum ball?

I hope I have misunderstood some of what you have said. If not, then you have shown yourself to be part of the problem and should have yourself removed from "public service". There are for too many in that business for their own gain instead of actually serving the public. </div></div>

You bad mouth cops and their services by making generalized statements while in the same breath, asking them to help you out? Oh irony.....

You are also attempting to identify this individual for the purpose of the $1700 dollar cut to your friends eye. The Police are NOT here for anybody's civil case.

Slapchop meant "simple assault" as in cut and dry. There were no other circumstances; the assault didn't take place during a kidnapping, robbery etc, thereby making it "simple."

You need to grow some thicker skin and stop perceiving everything as an attack on you or your friend. If you hate the cops, that's cool...just don't ask or expect them to do something for you especially when you don't understand what they are supposed to do.

Calling for Slapchop's removal over your lack of understanding and making the generalized statement that "too many in that business for their own gain...." just emphasizes the type of person you are. What gain exactly do they enjoy? Dealing with people who think they know the job or the law better?

I'd explain exactly all the legal proceedings and protocol to you but I'm sure you'd somehow perceive it as an attack on you just because it's not in your favor. So I'll let you figure it out on your own.

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #CC0000">Good luck getting help with </span>that attitude. </span></div></div>

He's not asking for help, he's wondering why the police won't investigate an assault. It's not a favor when it's their fucking job and what they're being PAID to do.

Yes, there is irony alright, just not with his attitude.

We can rely on you to enforce laws against the law-abiding, we can rely on you to hide behind red-tape when you make errors that cost the innocent their lives, we can rely on you to look the other way when your brother officers illegally assault us, shoot us, wrongly arrest us but we're showing 'attitude' when we get pissed that you don't even follow up on an actual crime.

In ever increasing amounts this forum and the manner in which the LE's present themselves and the PrimaDonna attitude of 'help' gives me every sympathy with KYPatriot's view... when and if the time comes, a uniform is not a welcome sight.

You people who think the rest of society 'owes' you respect, and that they are asking for your 'help' need a great big attitude adjustment. No-one asked you to be a cop, no-one stopped you from doing something else, you CHOSE to do this job so do it the fuck right or at the very least have the balls to say you just don't care and it's about the money/pension. At least then you'd have earned the right be called honest about being a freeloader.

 

[Bowman]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EventHorizon</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bowman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mram10</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Slapchop,
After your comments, can you see why we have a problem with the way the cops do business?

"A simple assault"? If you boy were out to dinner with his girlfriend and was punched in the eye, costing him $1700 in medical bills, how would you feel?

As for a "crystal ball", the Utah dispatcher TOLD me that they had software that could use partial plate info. Is it so hard to punch in those 3 numbers along with make and model to find this scum ball?

I hope I have misunderstood some of what you have said. If not, then you have shown yourself to be part of the problem and should have yourself removed from "public service". There are for too many in that business for their own gain instead of actually serving the public. </div></div>

You bad mouth cops and their services by making generalized statements while in the same breath, asking them to help you out? Oh irony.....

You are also attempting to identify this individual for the purpose of the $1700 dollar cut to your friends eye. The Police are NOT here for anybody's civil case.

Slapchop meant "simple assault" as in cut and dry. There were no other circumstances; the assault didn't take place during a kidnapping, robbery etc, thereby making it "simple."

You need to grow some thicker skin and stop perceiving everything as an attack on you or your friend. If you hate the cops, that's cool...just don't ask or expect them to do something for you especially when you don't understand what they are supposed to do.

Calling for Slapchop's removal over your lack of understanding and making the generalized statement that "too many in that business for their own gain...." just emphasizes the type of person you are. What gain exactly do they enjoy? Dealing with people who think they know the job or the law better?

I'd explain exactly all the legal proceedings and protocol to you but I'm sure you'd somehow perceive it as an attack on you just because it's not in your favor. So I'll let you figure it out on your own.

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #CC0000">Good luck getting help with </span>that attitude. </span></div></div>

He's not asking for help, he's wondering why the police won't investigate an assault. It's not a favor when it's their fucking job and what they're being PAID to do.

Yes, there is irony alright, just not with his attitude.

We can rely on you to enforce laws against the law-abiding, we can rely on you to hide behind red-tape when you make errors that cost the innocent their lives, we can rely on you to look the other way when your brother officers illegally assault us, shoot us, wrongly arrest us but we're showing 'attitude' when we get pissed that you don't even follow up on an actual crime.

In ever increasing amounts this forum and the manner in which the LE's present themselves and the PrimaDonna attitude of 'help' gives me every sympathy with KYPatriot's view... when and if the time comes, a uniform is not a welcome sight.

You people who think the rest of society 'owes' you respect, and that they are asking for your 'help' need a great big attitude adjustment. No-one asked you to be a cop, no-one stopped you from doing something else, you CHOSE to do this job so do it the fuck right or at the very least have the balls to say you just don't care and it's about the money/pension. At least then you'd have earned the right be called honest about being a freeloader. </div></div>

I knew you'd show up. You can't pry yourself away from an opportunity to vent your frustrations and scatter your lies.

I just wish you had enough balls to become a cop yourself. At least then you'd understand what really happens instead of spreading your latest read of the Onion. I'm glad that I don't take you seriously anymore because I've picked produce with more comprehension and listening skill.

And ummmm...I think he is asking for help....just read the title of the thread.

Also, I'm not sure who here is demanding respect. It's certainly not me. Do you think I'm longing for your respect? Do you think I even care about what YOU respect?

Nobody OWES cops anything. You are right about that. Apparently it's you who believes that cops owe you everything.

But I'm not going to deprive you of your ever reliable demonizing of cops so knock yourself out. Continue to shed your tears over "rank-closing", "corruption", "laziness", "freeloading" and attempt to pawn it off as common occurrence.

All this comes from a guy that's served his country or community in no way. Just another bitter, armchair QB who never played a game of touch football. Say hi to the guys at your next black block meeting for me!

 

[Slapchop]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mram10</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Slapchop,
After your comments, can you see why we have a problem with the way the cops do business?

"A simple assault"? If you boy were out to dinner with his girlfriend and was punched in the eye, costing him $1700 in medical bills, how would you feel?

As for a "crystal ball", the Utah dispatcher TOLD me that they had software that could use partial plate info. Is it so hard to punch in those 3 numbers along with make and model to find this scum ball?

I hope I have misunderstood some of what you have said. If not, then you have shown yourself to be part of the problem and should have yourself removed from "public service". There are for too many in that business for their own gain instead of actually serving the public. </div></div>

Sorry bro, I know it's not what you want to hear but it is the truth of the matter.

 

[EventHorizon]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bowman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EventHorizon</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bowman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mram10</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Slapchop,
After your comments, can you see why we have a problem with the way the cops do business?

"A simple assault"? If you boy were out to dinner with his girlfriend and was punched in the eye, costing him $1700 in medical bills, how would you feel?

As for a "crystal ball", the Utah dispatcher TOLD me that they had software that could use partial plate info. Is it so hard to punch in those 3 numbers along with make and model to find this scum ball?

I hope I have misunderstood some of what you have said. If not, then you have shown yourself to be part of the problem and should have yourself removed from "public service". There are for too many in that business for their own gain instead of actually serving the public. </div></div>

You bad mouth cops and their services by making generalized statements while in the same breath, asking them to help you out? Oh irony.....

You are also attempting to identify this individual for the purpose of the $1700 dollar cut to your friends eye. The Police are NOT here for anybody's civil case.

Slapchop meant "simple assault" as in cut and dry. There were no other circumstances; the assault didn't take place during a kidnapping, robbery etc, thereby making it "simple."

You need to grow some thicker skin and stop perceiving everything as an attack on you or your friend. If you hate the cops, that's cool...just don't ask or expect them to do something for you especially when you don't understand what they are supposed to do.

Calling for Slapchop's removal over your lack of understanding and making the generalized statement that "too many in that business for their own gain...." just emphasizes the type of person you are. What gain exactly do they enjoy? Dealing with people who think they know the job or the law better?

I'd explain exactly all the legal proceedings and protocol to you but I'm sure you'd somehow perceive it as an attack on you just because it's not in your favor. So I'll let you figure it out on your own.

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #CC0000">Good luck getting help with </span>that attitude. </span></div></div>

He's not asking for help, he's wondering why the police won't investigate an assault. It's not a favor when it's their fucking job and what they're being PAID to do.

Yes, there is irony alright, just not with his attitude.

We can rely on you to enforce laws against the law-abiding, we can rely on you to hide behind red-tape when you make errors that cost the innocent their lives, we can rely on you to look the other way when your brother officers illegally assault us, shoot us, wrongly arrest us but we're showing 'attitude' when we get pissed that you don't even follow up on an actual crime.

In ever increasing amounts this forum and the manner in which the LE's present themselves and the PrimaDonna attitude of 'help' gives me every sympathy with KYPatriot's view... when and if the time comes, a uniform is not a welcome sight.

You people who think the rest of society 'owes' you respect, and that they are asking for your 'help' need a great big attitude adjustment. No-one asked you to be a cop, no-one stopped you from doing something else, you CHOSE to do this job so do it the fuck right or at the very least have the balls to say you just don't care and it's about the money/pension. At least then you'd have earned the right be called honest about being a freeloader. </div></div>

I knew you'd show up. You can't pry yourself away from an opportunity to vent your frustrations and scatter your lies.

I just wish you had enough balls to become a cop yourself. At least then you'd understand what really happens instead of spreading your latest read of the Onion. I'm glad that I don't take you seriously anymore because I've picked produce with more comprehension and listening skill.

And ummmm...I think he is asking for help....just read the title of the thread.

Also, I'm not sure who here is demanding respect. It's certainly not me. Do you think I'm longing for your respect? Do you think I even care about what YOU respect?

Nobody OWES cops anything. You are right about that. Apparently it's you who believes that cops owe you everything.

But I'm not going to deprive you of your ever reliable demonizing of cops so knock yourself out. Continue to shed your tears over "rank-closing", "corruption", "laziness", "freeloading" and attempt to pawn it off as common occurrence.

All this comes from a guy that's served his country or community in no way. Just another bitter, armchair QB who never played a game of touch football. Say hi to the guys at your next black block meeting for me! </div></div>

Touch football. That's cute. Try playing a full contact sport without pads , helmets and those faggy dances in the end zone...

BTW - I will shed tears over the continued degrading of this country and the actions of people who enable, and protect those who push to make this place less than what it should be. So should you.

What you seem to forget is that you are a civil servant. I'm a civilian. I don't have to justify a damn thing to you. YOU'RE then one earning (supposedly) my money. All I and others on this thread are demanding is that you do exactly that. You seem to think that suggestion is trolling or some sort of tin-foil hat mentality. Says way more about you than it does me.

Go ahead, take the piss, feel superior in your uniform.

 

[Bowman]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EventHorizon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Touch football. That's cute. Try playing a full contact sport without pads , helmets and those faggy dances in the end zone...

BTW - I will shed tears over the continued degrading of this country and the actions of people who enable, and protect those who push to make this place less than what it should be. So should you.

What you seem to forget is that you are a civil servant. I'm a civilian. I don't have to justify a damn thing to you. YOU'RE then one earning (supposedly) my money. All I and others on this thread are demanding is that you do exactly that. You seem to think that suggestion is trolling or some sort of tin-foil hat mentality. Says way more about you than it does me.

Go ahead, take the piss, feel superior in your uniform. </div></div>

Look. You always lurk around this site waiting for something cop related so you can air out your frustrations. You speak in themes and neglect to directly address the issue of the initial post.

It's rude of you to continue your off topic, anti-cop banter. I don't mind the anti cop stuff if it's on topic.

In regards to this thread topic, go ahead and comment specifically on what I said that hurt your feelings or you consider to be wrong.

If you have nothing, then start your own thread with a creative, anti-cop title and I'll be more than happy to show up for your venting needs.

Mram10, I apologize for taking Event Horizons bait and assisting him in keeping this thread derailed. We are both at fault for this.

 

[mram10]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

Bowman,
Don't attack me before you re-read my posts. I wrote that in a very even, unemotional tone. It is hard to tell on the internet, but that is the nature of the beast.
Before you tell me to grow up and get an attitude adjustment, you should read posts, ask questions where you aren't sure my intent, then give the benefit when you aren't sure. I could attack you like you did me, but I am not like you. I try to find answers, rather than trying to create drama.
I have wasted enough time on people like you. I am trying to help a kid out, since you obviously are going to use this as an excuse for the system to not help the innocent. YOU are the exact reason I have a hard time keeping level headed.

 

[mram10]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Slapchop</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mram10</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Slapchop,
After your comments, can you see why we have a problem with the way the cops do business?

"A simple assault"? If you boy were out to dinner with his girlfriend and was punched in the eye, costing him $1700 in medical bills, how would you feel?

As for a "crystal ball", the Utah dispatcher TOLD me that they had software that could use partial plate info. Is it so hard to punch in those 3 numbers along with make and model to find this scum ball?

I hope I have misunderstood some of what you have said. If not, then you have shown yourself to be part of the problem and should have yourself removed from "public service". There are for too many in that business for their own gain instead of actually serving the public. </div></div>

Sorry bro, I know it's not what you want to hear but it is the truth of the matter. </div></div>

Read what you wrote me. Can you see why a citizen would question what is being done by those that "serve and protect"? If you do your job to help and it gets caught up in the legal system, then fine. You did your best and no one can fault you. But to have the PD stop because they think this won't pan out??? That makes no sense. For the record, I understood what you meant by simple assault. My comment was aimed at the fact you made it sound like it wasn't a big deal. As if it were too small of a fish to fry.

 

[mram10]

Re: How to find owner of Vehicle?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bowman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EventHorizon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Touch football. That's cute. Try playing a full contact sport without pads , helmets and those faggy dances in the end zone...

BTW - I will shed tears over the continued degrading of this country and the actions of people who enable, and protect those who push to make this place less than what it should be. So should you.

What you seem to forget is that you are a civil servant. I'm a civilian. I don't have to justify a damn thing to you. YOU'RE then one earning (supposedly) my money. All I and others on this thread are demanding is that you do exactly that. You seem to think that suggestion is trolling or some sort of tin-foil hat mentality. Says way more about you than it does me.

Go ahead, take the piss, feel superior in your uniform. </div></div>

Look. You always lurk around this site waiting for something cop related so you can air out your frustrations. You speak in themes and neglect to directly address the issue of the initial post.

It's rude of you to continue your off topic, anti-cop banter. I don't mind the anti cop stuff if it's on topic.

In regards to this thread topic, go ahead and comment specifically on what I said that hurt your feelings or you consider to be wrong.

If you have nothing, then start your own thread with a creative, anti-cop title and I'll be more than happy to show up for your venting needs.

Mram10, I apologize for taking Event Horizons bait and assisting him in keeping this thread derailed. We are both at fault for this. </div></div>

I do not know what you two have battle over in the past, but EH seems to be spot on with his comments in this thread. As a civil servant, you should be the one that doesnt get spun up at the drop of a hat. You should be looking for ways to serve the public. As a military member, if you told me we needed to work on something, I would look at what you said unbiasedly, then see if it made sense. All along keeping it professional and trying to keep it emotionally neutral. So far, you have taken my comments as an attack on law enforcement. My best friend from childhood is a cop in washington. I have numerous friends that are cops here. I have never been in trouble with the law and show respect to every officer I come in contact with because it is the right thing to do. When I see a problem with the system I WILL NOT sit down and color. Not when it is a hard working college kid that has never been in trouble. You should, as a PO, look at this and say, "What are they doing there? They could have been doing this, that and the other to make this right." You see my point? It isn't about being anti-cop. It is about doing your frickin job and helping law abiding citizens before we decide that we should take matters into our own hands. If it were your son or friend, I would hope you would care enough about them to do what I am trying to get done.

You mentioned my attitude, well do the citizens you serve a favor, and before you go off on them like you did on me above, take a deep breath and think about the "service" you have been hired to do. Either way, stay safe out there. God forbid, if anything like this happened to a loved one of yours, I hope you don't give up and let the failure in the system deter you. I am betting you wouldn't.