Ordered vx 6 1-6x24 with illuminated German 4 reticle. Box says fire dot 4. Some forums showed the reticle I have which is not as expected but rather a skinnier longer 3 reticle lines. Leupold is always a long wait to call so I'm expecting the same tomorrow. Anyone here familiar with what the vx6 illum German 4 looks like for leupold as I'm wondering if I got the wrong scope sent or if as some people say, the reticle just shouldn't be called German 4
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Re: leupold illuminated german 4?
Here is the catalog http://www.leupold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/2012_Leupold_Catalog.pdf?9d7bd4
The German #4 dot and the Firedot #4 are different. I have the firedot on my VX-R 2-7x33, it has similar thick posts but the thin section is closer together then the VX-6 version.
Reticles are on page 90
Here is the catalog http://www.leupold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/2012_Leupold_Catalog.pdf?9d7bd4
The German #4 dot and the Firedot #4 are different. I have the firedot on my VX-R 2-7x33, it has similar thick posts but the thin section is closer together then the VX-6 version.
Reticles are on page 90
Re: leupold illuminated german 4?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: roggom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is the catalog http://www.leupold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/2012_Leupold_Catalog.pdf?9d7bd4
The German #4 dot and the Firedot #4 are different. I have the firedot on my VX-R 2-7x33, it has similar thick posts but the thin section is closer together then the VX-6 version.
Reticles are on page 90 </div></div>
The fire dot 4 isn't even listed as available on the vx6 in that catalog. Now I'm hella confused.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: roggom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is the catalog http://www.leupold.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/2012_Leupold_Catalog.pdf?9d7bd4
The German #4 dot and the Firedot #4 are different. I have the firedot on my VX-R 2-7x33, it has similar thick posts but the thin section is closer together then the VX-6 version.
Reticles are on page 90 </div></div>
The fire dot 4 isn't even listed as available on the vx6 in that catalog. Now I'm hella confused.
Re: leupold illuminated german 4?
Yeah that is strange, mine is actually out to Leupold getting a CDS installed. Here is a pic of another guys, mine looks the same, very thick posts. Pic is not mine, hope the owner does not mind.
I think its just a misprint on the box.
^^^ This is a firedot 4, as used in the VX-R
Yeah that is strange, mine is actually out to Leupold getting a CDS installed. Here is a pic of another guys, mine looks the same, very thick posts. Pic is not mine, hope the owner does not mind.
I think its just a misprint on the box.
^^^ This is a firedot 4, as used in the VX-R
Re: leupold illuminated german 4?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: roggom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yeah that is strange, mine is actually out to Leupold getting a CDS installed. Here is a pic of another guys, mine looks the same, very thick posts. Pic is not mine, hope the owner does not mind.
I think its just a misprint on the box.
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thats coker's and i was about to post the same pic. midway is saying product number matches but box says firedot 4 not german illuminated 4. obviously looks different than coker's and what i was expecting. turrets are in metric when its listed as moa as well and i want to keep with moa since my dope cheat sheets on rifles are already in that.
wait time for leupold is 55 minutes...
what a mess...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: roggom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yeah that is strange, mine is actually out to Leupold getting a CDS installed. Here is a pic of another guys, mine looks the same, very thick posts. Pic is not mine, hope the owner does not mind.
I think its just a misprint on the box.
thats coker's and i was about to post the same pic. midway is saying product number matches but box says firedot 4 not german illuminated 4. obviously looks different than coker's and what i was expecting. turrets are in metric when its listed as moa as well and i want to keep with moa since my dope cheat sheets on rifles are already in that.
wait time for leupold is 55 minutes...
what a mess...
Re: leupold illuminated german 4?
Hmm, My firedot 4 is metric as well. 1cm click @ 100m, so in theory should be mil with 1/10 mil clicks. I asked the Leupold rep about it, but he kinda danced around and did not give me a definitive answer. I spent an afternoon crunching numbers if it could be a mil turret. Gave up as I set it for a 300Y zero for hunting in the woods, so not an issue. I will have the CDS done in metric just to match.
Looking at everything, yours is the metric version , hence the firedot 4 vs German 4. Through scope looks nice BTW.
Hmm, My firedot 4 is metric as well. 1cm click @ 100m, so in theory should be mil with 1/10 mil clicks. I asked the Leupold rep about it, but he kinda danced around and did not give me a definitive answer. I spent an afternoon crunching numbers if it could be a mil turret. Gave up as I set it for a 300Y zero for hunting in the woods, so not an issue. I will have the CDS done in metric just to match.
Looking at everything, yours is the metric version , hence the firedot 4 vs German 4. Through scope looks nice BTW.
Re: leupold illuminated german 4?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: roggom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hmm, My firedot 4 is metric as well. 1cm click @ 100m, so in theory should be mil with 1/10 mil clicks. I asked the Leupold rep about it, but he kinda danced around and did not give me a definitive answer. I spent an afternoon crunching numbers if it could be a mil turret. Gave up as I set it for a 300Y zero for hunting in the woods, so not an issue. I will have the CDS done in metric just to match.
Looking at everything, yours is the metric version , hence the firedot 4 vs German 4. Through scope looks nice BTW. </div></div>
Its a nice picture and the dot would likely be fine but I'd rather the thicker posts of the German 4 and prefer moa although I'll get CDs dials for some loads which means that's not as big a deal. Just confused over whether an actual vx6 1-6 with true German 4 illuminated is available or if this is what they are calling that...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: roggom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hmm, My firedot 4 is metric as well. 1cm click @ 100m, so in theory should be mil with 1/10 mil clicks. I asked the Leupold rep about it, but he kinda danced around and did not give me a definitive answer. I spent an afternoon crunching numbers if it could be a mil turret. Gave up as I set it for a 300Y zero for hunting in the woods, so not an issue. I will have the CDS done in metric just to match.
Looking at everything, yours is the metric version , hence the firedot 4 vs German 4. Through scope looks nice BTW. </div></div>
Its a nice picture and the dot would likely be fine but I'd rather the thicker posts of the German 4 and prefer moa although I'll get CDs dials for some loads which means that's not as big a deal. Just confused over whether an actual vx6 1-6 with true German 4 illuminated is available or if this is what they are calling that...
Re: leupold illuminated german 4?
Mine looks like Cokers. Just thinking the reticle designation "firedot 4" = metric.
Mine looks like Cokers. Just thinking the reticle designation "firedot 4" = metric.
Re: leupold illuminated german 4?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: roggom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mine looks like Cokers. Just thinking the reticle designation "firedot 4" = metric. </div></div>
So your box says fire dot 4 too and has metric knobs but coker's reticle instead of mine?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: roggom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mine looks like Cokers. Just thinking the reticle designation "firedot 4" = metric. </div></div>
So your box says fire dot 4 too and has metric knobs but coker's reticle instead of mine?
Re: leupold illuminated german 4?
Yes, but my scope is a VX-R.
Looking at part number 112320, looks like it comes in both moa and metric version. Page 106 in the catalog. There is no separate part number for each. Here is the same scope at another vendor and it states metric, with the same part number. http://www.theriflescopestore.com/lele1vxriilg.html
Very curious, You can always call midway back and have them check stock on 112320 and ask the to physically check the boxes for different designations on the boxes.
Yes, but my scope is a VX-R.
Looking at part number 112320, looks like it comes in both moa and metric version. Page 106 in the catalog. There is no separate part number for each. Here is the same scope at another vendor and it states metric, with the same part number. http://www.theriflescopestore.com/lele1vxriilg.html
Very curious, You can always call midway back and have them check stock on 112320 and ask the to physically check the boxes for different designations on the boxes.
Re: leupold illuminated german 4?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: roggom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes, but my scope is a VX-R.
Looking at part number 112320, looks like it comes in both moa and metric version. Page 106 in the catalog. There is no separate part number for each. Here is the same scope at another vendor and it states metric, with the same part number. http://www.theriflescopestore.com/lele1vxriilg.html
Very curious, You can always call midway back and have them check stock on 112320 and ask the to physically check the boxes for different designations on the boxes. </div></div>
yea i asked the rep to go check and somebody is suppossed to call me back... i was on live chat and sent him all the pics i had available... box it came in, coker's reticle, my reticle, link to their product listing, etc. id prefer it to be moa just to match my other stuff especially until i get any cds for it. the reticle im not dying over it. i turned the dot on a very low setting and in my fully dark and almost dark shed its obvious it will be fine in lowlight conditions with that assuming it doesnt stop working like some of the low temperature issues ive read about. just know id prefer thicker reticles like true german 4 for its use.
on hold with Leupold now to see what i can find out.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: roggom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes, but my scope is a VX-R.
Looking at part number 112320, looks like it comes in both moa and metric version. Page 106 in the catalog. There is no separate part number for each. Here is the same scope at another vendor and it states metric, with the same part number. http://www.theriflescopestore.com/lele1vxriilg.html
Very curious, You can always call midway back and have them check stock on 112320 and ask the to physically check the boxes for different designations on the boxes. </div></div>
yea i asked the rep to go check and somebody is suppossed to call me back... i was on live chat and sent him all the pics i had available... box it came in, coker's reticle, my reticle, link to their product listing, etc. id prefer it to be moa just to match my other stuff especially until i get any cds for it. the reticle im not dying over it. i turned the dot on a very low setting and in my fully dark and almost dark shed its obvious it will be fine in lowlight conditions with that assuming it doesnt stop working like some of the low temperature issues ive read about. just know id prefer thicker reticles like true german 4 for its use.
on hold with Leupold now to see what i can find out.
Re: leupold illuminated german 4?
from Leupold:
in the 1-6x the posts are going to be thinner in the VX6.
Metric dials on firedot 4 or german 4.
So if I wanted MOA I could order a different reticle and he thinks theyd be able to swap reticles to firedot4 or german 4 but its still going to be the thinner posts since it's 1-6.
ive looked through the scope a couple times since and think I'm going to complain less and shoot more... it has a damn nice clean picture and it should work nicely for what I'm wanting it for.
from Leupold:
in the 1-6x the posts are going to be thinner in the VX6.
Metric dials on firedot 4 or german 4.
So if I wanted MOA I could order a different reticle and he thinks theyd be able to swap reticles to firedot4 or german 4 but its still going to be the thinner posts since it's 1-6.
ive looked through the scope a couple times since and think I'm going to complain less and shoot more... it has a damn nice clean picture and it should work nicely for what I'm wanting it for.
Re: leupold illuminated german 4?
If you really want the moa, ask Midway to replace it. No fault on anyones part, and as long as you didn't mount it, they will swap it for you.
I really like my scope as the dot can be turned down to barely visible, but it really comes in handy in dark timber. I was gonna do VX6, but the dealer price on the VX-R was hard to pass up.
The 2-7 did not come with a CDS, so I am having them put one in, just on that chance of an open field or cross canyon shot. I will use a generic dial, as I have my dope worked in both moa and mil.
So what rifle you putting the VX6 on?
If you really want the moa, ask Midway to replace it. No fault on anyones part, and as long as you didn't mount it, they will swap it for you.
I really like my scope as the dot can be turned down to barely visible, but it really comes in handy in dark timber. I was gonna do VX6, but the dealer price on the VX-R was hard to pass up.
The 2-7 did not come with a CDS, so I am having them put one in, just on that chance of an open field or cross canyon shot. I will use a generic dial, as I have my dope worked in both moa and mil.
So what rifle you putting the VX6 on?
Re: leupold illuminated german 4?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: roggom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you really want the moa, ask Midway to replace it. No fault on anyones part, and as long as you didn't mount it, they will swap it for you.
I really like my scope as the dot can be turned down to barely visible, but it really comes in handy in dark timber. I was gonna do VX6, but the dealer price on the VX-R was hard to pass up.
The 2-7 did not come with a CDS, so I am having them put one in, just on that chance of an open field or cross canyon shot. I will use a generic dial, as I have my dope worked in both moa and mil.
So what rifle you putting the VX6 on? </div></div>
thought about it and am still thinking about it. would mean getting the illuminated duplex reticle to get moa instead of metric instead of the firedot 4 though according to Leupold.
since im likely going to get a cds dial or 2 from them for it i may just keep it. i dont dial wind so with the cds id be set and if not i can always change my cheat sheets to show both moa and metric.
its going to be a second scope for this pig killer. it started as a 24" stainless heavy as anything dpms lr308 and is slowly getting lightened up as i dial it in. barrel was cut back to 18 and threaded for the brake. Suppressor purchase coming in next couple weeks (and then the long wait). have a ctr stock with larue risr on order, slash buffer tube/spring to go in the carbine tube. At some point im going to get the barrel turned down but i dont lug it too far on most ventures so im not sweating that.
have 2 larue qd mounts waiting to be setup so the 6.5-20x and this vx6 1-6 can be swapped easily as need be. most of the hunting on our property is in pretty thick surroundings so the 1-6x will likely see the most action with the 6.5-20x being on standby for longer range coyote action.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: roggom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you really want the moa, ask Midway to replace it. No fault on anyones part, and as long as you didn't mount it, they will swap it for you.
I really like my scope as the dot can be turned down to barely visible, but it really comes in handy in dark timber. I was gonna do VX6, but the dealer price on the VX-R was hard to pass up.
The 2-7 did not come with a CDS, so I am having them put one in, just on that chance of an open field or cross canyon shot. I will use a generic dial, as I have my dope worked in both moa and mil.
So what rifle you putting the VX6 on? </div></div>
thought about it and am still thinking about it. would mean getting the illuminated duplex reticle to get moa instead of metric instead of the firedot 4 though according to Leupold.
since im likely going to get a cds dial or 2 from them for it i may just keep it. i dont dial wind so with the cds id be set and if not i can always change my cheat sheets to show both moa and metric.
its going to be a second scope for this pig killer. it started as a 24" stainless heavy as anything dpms lr308 and is slowly getting lightened up as i dial it in. barrel was cut back to 18 and threaded for the brake. Suppressor purchase coming in next couple weeks (and then the long wait). have a ctr stock with larue risr on order, slash buffer tube/spring to go in the carbine tube. At some point im going to get the barrel turned down but i dont lug it too far on most ventures so im not sweating that.
have 2 larue qd mounts waiting to be setup so the 6.5-20x and this vx6 1-6 can be swapped easily as need be. most of the hunting on our property is in pretty thick surroundings so the 1-6x will likely see the most action with the 6.5-20x being on standby for longer range coyote action.
Re: leupold illuminated german 4?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: roggom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I really like my scope as the dot can be turned down to barely visible, but it really comes in handy in dark timber. I was gonna do VX6, but the dealer price on the VX-R was hard to pass up.
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yea i checked it out today during lunch and then as the sun set to see how it looked during low light and was very pleased with both the reticle and the dot (had set rather low so it wasnt even visible during the brighter daylight hours.
father in law has vxr with the pig plex and its a nice scope as well for sure.
leaning towards just setting this up, ordering the cds dial, and shooting the hell oughta it! ha
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: roggom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I really like my scope as the dot can be turned down to barely visible, but it really comes in handy in dark timber. I was gonna do VX6, but the dealer price on the VX-R was hard to pass up.
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yea i checked it out today during lunch and then as the sun set to see how it looked during low light and was very pleased with both the reticle and the dot (had set rather low so it wasnt even visible during the brighter daylight hours.
father in law has vxr with the pig plex and its a nice scope as well for sure.
leaning towards just setting this up, ordering the cds dial, and shooting the hell oughta it! ha
Re: leupold illuminated german 4?
the pic in question that belongs to me, is from the 2-7 firedot #4 of the VX-R
the pic in question that belongs to me, is from the 2-7 firedot #4 of the VX-R
Re: leupold illuminated german 4?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ccoker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the pic in question that belongs to me, is from the 2-7 firedot #4 of the VX-R
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yes sir. found it in a thread as well and was part of why i was surprised that the reticle looked so different from mine (1-6 vs 2-7) as i thought theyd look more similar.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ccoker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the pic in question that belongs to me, is from the 2-7 firedot #4 of the VX-R
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yes sir. found it in a thread as well and was part of why i was surprised that the reticle looked so different from mine (1-6 vs 2-7) as i thought theyd look more similar.
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