Rifle Scopes Schmidt & Bender 12-50x56 or March

[andrews1958]

I have decided on my specs for first tactical rifle and gunsmith and it will be started shortly once the parts arive. Now I have to pick a scope for it. I will be doing from 100 to 1000 yard shooting.

Looking at either the Schmidt & Bender PMII 12-50x56 or a March in the same power range.

What would purchase? Any experiance with either one of them?

 

[spot69221]

Re: Schmidt & Bender 12-50x56 or March

The question will be if you are going to shoot more from bench/target shooting or match/field.

In my opinion the Schmidt & Bender PMII 12-50x56 doesn't belong on a tactical style rifle unless you want to pursue the pure accuracy of the rifle (or your shooting 2000+ I guess). You will not have as much field of view, more weight to carry, larger weapon profile, etc...

That scope would be fun to test loads for the rifle.

I have no experience with the March line other than looking through several at a bench rest match.

If you look here,

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=378812#Post378812

there is so much info - it should confuse you more

Read through the optic stickies several times.

I have never shot at a target where 12x was not enough to properly engage a target. 25x is usually enough to identify features of the target (or a spotting scope).

 

[bward]

Re: Schmidt & Bender 12-50x56 or March

I should be getting in my 12-50 S&B Monday or Tuesday of this week so I'll let you know what I think. I don't have the exact March you are talking about but do have a 50X on a bench gun and really like it. For me the decision was decided by having to wait a long time to get the exact March I wanted and the fact that I found someone who had the S&B that I wanted in stock. You will probably have a lot of people tell you this is too much magnification and for most it probably is. However, most of my shooting is either from a bench or prone at known distances and I like to have the added magnification. I found that on my 3-15 magnification scopes I hardly ever shot under 10X at distances of 500 and over so I figured I would not miss the low mags at all.

 

[Rob01]

Re: Schmidt & Bender 12-50x56 or March

For a tac rifle get the 5-25x56 S&B with P4F reticle. Excellent set up and perfect power range for anything you will need to do with the rifle.

 

[Tactical]

Re: Schmidt & Bender 12-50x56 or March

Depends on what you are going to do with it.

For static range targets the March is my choice.

For field work where you will range, use hold overs, leads etc at different powers the SxB wings hands down

 

[Glen Seekins]

Re: Schmidt & Bender 12-50x56 or March


Have you shot with higher mag scopes before? If you are used to 15 or even 20x you might be disappointed when you go real high. I have a 36x benchrest scope and on allot of days cant use it because the mirage is too bad. Also higher magnification doesn't work in low light situations. 12x would be too much in real low light.
I guess you can always dial down, but i can see bullet splashes on steel at 1200yds with 25x, so I cant see needing more.

If i were to pick between the 2 it would be SB over anything else.

 

[crnkin]

Re: Schmidt & Bender 12-50x56 or March

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For a tac rifle get the 5-25x56 S&B with P4F reticle. Excellent set up and perfect power range for anything you will need to do with the rifle. </div></div>

Listen to Rob, he knows everything worth knowing.

March scopes are awesome, but limited warranty and sfp makes them a tough choice when scopes like the S&B are readily available.

I would choose the 3-12 or 4-16 first, but I wont shoot past 1000 much/if at all.

Chris

 

[andrews1958]

Re: Schmidt & Bender 12-50x56 or March

Any luck/experiance on the Leupold Mark 4 8x25 with a iluminated retical. A number of people sugested this as a good pick as an all around scope for 100 out to 600 yards.

 

[Rob01]

Re: Schmidt & Bender 12-50x56 or March

Looking for cheaper price? I would get a NF or Razor before Leupold.

I don't know everything. Not by a long shot, no pun intended

but I have used alot of scopes over the years of shooting long range and just like to help when I can.

 

[crnkin]

Re: Schmidt & Bender 12-50x56 or March

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looking for cheaper price? I would get a NF or Razor before Leupold.

I don't know everything. Not by a long shot, no pun intended

but I have used alot of scopes over the years of shooting long range and just like to help when I can. </div></div>

hence 'everything worth knowing'

 

[mumabear]

Re: Schmidt & Bender 12-50x56 or March

ive just orderd the march x 8x80,havent looked though either yet but from what i can gather they are both top scopes,comes down to your personal choice really,only prob with the march is a two month wait but im sure it will be worth the wait

 

[Tactical]

Re: Schmidt & Bender 12-50x56 or March

I have the March 8-80 X Series and for F Class I dont think a better scope is out there. Glass, adjustments you name it best I have used for static targets. I want to get an X Series 5-50 for my DTA 338 Lapua.

 

[autoillusions]

Re: Schmidt & Bender 12-50x56 or March

First let me say i am a newbie and this is only my opinion...

I first bought the SB 8-25x for my 308 bolt gun not shooting past 500 yards yet. I never found myself taking it off 25x except sighting it in at 100 i used 20x. Not hunting or competing, all i use my gun for is shooting off the bench at the range off the bi-pod. I felt i wanted more zoom.....

Only owned and shot the SB 8-25x once and immediately ordered the 12-50x. Love the scope however something i missed in researching it is the eye relief is almost half. I can suggest that the eye relief is not that good for a high power rifle. I hit my glasses at least 5 times out of a 50-round day. That and shooting black targets, i miss the lit reticle now.

I am now looking at the March 8-80x scope. correct me if i am wrong but if i never want to use less than 10 power, there is no downfall to buying a scope that can go all the way to the higher powers.

Also i like being able to shoot and not having to look through the spotting scope to see where i hit....

All i plan on doing is bench shooting and the high power scopes is for me.

Might be selling at least one if not both Schmidt bender scopes. Each have a day and about 50 rounds through them. NEW condition

 

[jerry1]

Re: Schmidt & Bender 12-50x56 or March

The March scope sounds like a great benchrest scope. I personally do not like their five year warranty. For that kind of money the shooter should get better protection. In benchrest the Leupold line is still very common.

 

[The_FNG]

Re: Schmidt & Bender 12-50x56 or March

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Crnkin</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For a tac rifle get the 5-25x56 S&B with P4F reticle. Excellent set up and perfect power range for anything you will need to do with the rifle. </div></div>

Listen to Rob, he knows everything worth knowing.

March scopes are awesome, but limited warranty and sfp makes them a tough choice when scopes like the S&B are readily available.

I would choose the 3-12 or 4-16 first, but I wont shoot past 1000 much/if at all.

Chris </div></div>

March make FFP scopes. In saying that it's hard to go past the benchmark that SB provides.

If you can "live" with a 25x scope, have a look at the Kahles and Steiner options as well.

 

[Hennig]

Re: Schmidt & Bender 12-50x56 or March

2 year old thread fellas.

 

[warbird2006]

Re: Schmidt & Bender 12-50x56 or March

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: spot69221</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The question will be if you are going to shoot more from bench/target shooting or match/field.

In my opinion the Schmidt & Bender PMII 12-50x56 doesn't belong on a tactical style rifle unless you want to pursue the pure accuracy of the rifle (or your shooting 2000+ I guess). You will not have as much field of view, more weight to carry, larger weapon profile, etc...

That scope would be fun to test loads for the rifle.

I have no experience with the March line other than looking through several at a bench rest match.

If you look here,

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=378812#Post378812

there is so much info - it should confuse you more

Read through the optic stickies several times.

I have never shot at a target where 12x was not enough to properly engage a target. 25x is usually enough to identify features of the target (or a spotting scope).

</div></div>

I would love to test the S&B as my eye site is not getting better and I like to se the target. Laud and clear.

 

[warbird2006]

Re: Schmidt & Bender 12-50x56 or March

you can always dial down on 5-25x

 

[warbird2006]

Re: Schmidt & Bender 12-50x56 or March

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rich Martsolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">First let me say i am a newbie and this is only my opinion...

I first bought the SB 8-25x for my 308 bolt gun not shooting past 500 yards yet. I never found myself taking it off 25x except sighting it in at 100 i used 20x. Not hunting or competing, all i use my gun for is shooting off the bench at the range off the bi-pod. I felt i wanted more zoom.....

Only owned and shot the SB 8-25x once and immediately ordered the 12-50x. Love the scope however something i missed in researching it is the eye relief is almost half. I can suggest that the eye relief is not that good for a high power rifle. I hit my glasses at least 5 times out of a 50-round day. That and shooting black targets, i miss the lit reticle now.

I am now looking at the March 8-80x scope. correct me if i am wrong but if i never want to use less than 10 power, there is no downfall to buying a scope that can go all the way to the higher powers.

Also i like being able to shoot and not having to look through the spotting scope to see where i hit....

All i plan on doing is bench shooting and the high power scopes is for me.

Might be selling at least one if not both Schmidt bender scopes. Each have a day and about 50 rounds through them. NEW condition</div></div>

How much are you asking? I may be interested/

 

[warbird2006]

Re: Schmidt & Bender 12-50x56 or March

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hennig</div><div class="ubbcode-body">2 year old thread fellas.</div></div>

and still a lot to talk about