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hornady press broke

plunker20

plunker20

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i was depriming some lake city brass that i had bought for my .308 and i ended up bending the ram on my single stage lock and load hornady. i called them and they told me that it most likely will not be covered under warranty due to the nature in which i was using it. is there a company out there that makes a press strong enough to work on military brass?
 
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The press was made to do that, if they want to charge you, tell them to shove it. Send a cuople pieces of brass along with it.
 
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i was thinking about going to a dillon but they dont look all that much better for strength
 
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Yes...The Dillon 550, The Redding Supermag, the Forster Coax...in fact I find the Coax to have more leverage with less force than either of the preceeding. Don't know what lube you are using but that makes a lot of difference too. I like the home brew spray the best. JMHO
 
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i was using hornday one shot for lube it works good on all my 223 22-250 and winchester 308 brass
 
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If you did that to your press, you shouldn't be reloading.
 
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what happened...case got stuck and you used all your muscle to pull it out?
 
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Well, one difference with the Dillon is that if you do somehow manage to break it, they'll stand behind. Best customer service in the industry, and their "no BS warranty" is exactly that; no BS.
 
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thanks for your input lamironman but ive been reloading for a couple of years now, and its never happened before.

after about the 350th round it was getting hard to pull down and push up so i took the die completely apart cleaned that and put some gun oil on the ram and it helped for a bit, now its like i can barely move the ram at all
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin Thomas</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well, one difference with the Dillon is that if you do somehow manage to break it, they'll stand behind. Best customer service in the industry, and their "no BS warranty" is exactly that; no BS. </div></div>

^^^This^^^ I have a Dillon and there is a no BS warranty.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rookie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">there is more to this story. </div></div>
Enlighten us.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: plunker20</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i was thinking about going to a dillon but they dont look all that much better for strength
</div></div>

Maybe this will help.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EddieNFL</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: plunker20</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i was thinking about going to a dillon but they dont look all that much better for strength
</div></div>

Maybe this will help. </div></div>

Thanks but my appt is this coming Tuesday
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: plunker20</div><div class="ubbcode-body">thanks for your input lamironman but ive been reloading for a couple of years now, and its never happened before.

after about the 350th round it was getting hard to pull down and push up so i took the die completely apart cleaned that and put some gun oil on the ram and it helped for a bit, now its like i can barely move the ram at all </div></div>

Were you depriming and doing FLS at the same time or just depriming? I use the small Lee C frame press and universal depriming die to keep the debris away from my Rockchucker. Might be some trash on the ram making it bind.

OFG
 
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That makes sense because the ram looked like it had burnt oil on it may e I just needed to clean the ram better maybe dip it in the part cleaner at work
 
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this what i'm thinking, how do you bend a 2" round stainless steel ram bar? wouldn't that take more than human strength to bend? sorry, but I don't get it.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Iamironman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you did that to your press, you shouldn't be reloading. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: seanh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what happened...case got stuck and you used all your muscle to pull it out? </div></div>
 
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I know my hornday progressive LNL press has two allen screws at the top of the ram / under shellplate area, and if those screws are loose, then the top of the ram will not be square.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elfster1234</div><div class="ubbcode-body">this what i'm thinking, how do you bend a 2" round stainless steel ram bar? wouldn't that take more than human strength to bend? sorry, but I don't get it.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Iamironman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you did that to your press, you shouldn't be reloading. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: seanh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what happened...case got stuck and you used all your muscle to pull it out? </div></div> </div></div>
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elfster1234</div><div class="ubbcode-body">this what i'm thinking, how do you bend a 2" round stainless steel ram bar? wouldn't that take more than human strength to bend? sorry, but I don't get it.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Iamironman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you did that to your press, you shouldn't be reloading. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: seanh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what happened...case got stuck and you used all your muscle to pull it out? </div></div></div></div>

I don't know what press you talking about with a 2" diameter ram mine is just a single stage with about a half inch ram
 
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sorry, missed the single stage part


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: plunker20</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elfster1234</div><div class="ubbcode-body">this what i'm thinking, how do you bend a 2" round stainless steel ram bar? wouldn't that take more than human strength to bend? sorry, but I don't get it.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Iamironman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you did that to your press, you shouldn't be reloading. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: seanh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what happened...case got stuck and you used all your muscle to pull it out? </div></div></div></div>

I don't know what press you talking about with a 2" diameter ram mine is just a single stage with about a half inch ram </div></div>
 
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Admittingly, I only have limited experience reloading.

However I have no idea how you can break a press. I have a second hand rockchucker. I just can't image using enough force to break the metal. I've done everything from full sizing and simultaneously depriming military brass to working on bigger cartridges like the 338. I can't imagine the press breaking before either the die or brass your working on.

Maybe you got a faulty component on the press? Weaker than usual part.
 
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You can get the redding big boss ii or the ultramag. I have seen some impressive feats done with the ultramag.
 
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Can you please show us a picture because I have a Hornady single stage press that I haven't used yet and would like to know if this is going to be a big problem.
 
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I size and deprime at the same time. Just did a couple thousand 223 Lake City. No problem with my Hornady 007. Are you sure you did not over bottom out against shell holder?
 
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There is about an 1/8 inch gap between the shell holder and the bottom of the die so I don't think that the shell holder is bottoming out, and I can't send pictures it is on its way back to hornady to be rebuilt.
 
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I'm in the camp of 'WTF' if you are using a sizing die and decapping simultaneously, that is how a huge percentage of cases are resized and decapped. There is absolutely nothing wrond with that 'method of using' your press, but I am familiar with the Hornady press, and IMO something had to be wrong in order to bend it.

I'm with the poster that said there must be more to this story.
If you actually bent it while simply resizing/decapping cases, Hornady absolutely should make it right--at N/C!
 
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Yeah I'm probably on 12K rounds loaded so far on the Hornady LnL single stage press. Only issue to date has been a broken decapping pin on a sizer die because a Berdan primed case snuck it's way into a once-fired brass bag. Keep any modern press fairly clean and moderately lubed and your grandkids will be reloading on it long after you're gone.
 
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Sorry, but after years of using a Hornady LNL single stage without even a minor issue, I just don't see how anyone could unintentionally break it. And, furthermore, after dealing with their CS guys in the past on another issue that WAS my fault and not being charged for repair I just don't think they would tell you they were charging you to fix something without seeing it first.
 
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I never said that they were going to charge me or what they were going to charge me just that its not a warranty issue. And that they will call me when they asses it and figure out how much I will be charged if I get charged
 
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Have you figured out if you bent it or it just needs to be cleaned yet? I really don't see how it would get bent as it would take a lot of force and the decapping pin would go right through the primer before the ram bent. What decapper you using?
 
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Get a LEE Classic Cast. They can't be broke.
The handle will bend long before serious damage will occur.

Have you a spent primer/residue down the priming slot?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have you figured out if you bent it or it just needs to be cleaned yet? I really don't see how it would get bent as it would take a lot of force and the decapping pin would go right through the primer before the ram bent. What decapper you using? </div></div>

I have found that the ram must be cleaned and oiled on a fairly regular basis. It seems, but I really have no proof, that there is something in the design (maybe how the primer system works) that allows more debris to get on the ram.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: zuke</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Get a LEE Classic Cast. They can't be broke.
The handle will bend long before serious damage will occur.
</div></div>

I've seen broken linkage on one of those before. While the body is about as stout as it gets, never underestimate the power of people who put determination before thought.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shoot4fun</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have found that the ram must be cleaned and oiled on a fairly regular basis. It seems, <span style="font-weight: bold">but I really have no proof</span>, that there is something in the design (maybe how the primer system works) that allows more debris to get on the ram. </div></div>

Proof or not I have had the same hypothesis as yourself. I have found that the amount of cleaning correlates pretty heavily to the dirtiness around the spent primer shoot.

I am usually am able to get away with just giving the ram a good shot with the OneShot dry lube cleaner. Have only had to fully disassemble the die once so far which was after maybe 500-600 rounds through it. Actually found that the OneShot case lube also worked pretty well.
 
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"<span style="font-style: italic">I've seen broken linkage on one of those before. While the body is about as stout as it gets, never underestimate the power of people who put determination before thought."</span>

Nothing is fool proof to a sufficently determined fool.

Words matter: "Bent" is not "broke". "Rams" only move vertically, they have a shell holder retaining slot at the top and connect to the toggle block at the bottom; rams do not bend or break and none of them are 1/2" diameter. That 1/2" diameter steel rod thingy sticking out to the side is a "lever", the only way it can possibly get bent is to have the die screwed down so far it's jammed onto the top of the shell holder/ram and then stand on the lever while trying to force the ram itself into the die.

Every conventional loading press on the market will easily handle 7.62 GI cases if it's used correctly.
 
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