wanting to build most light compact .308 i can

[boomer81]

i would love a gap gladius. i would buy one right now. i can't find one anywhere. and i talked to em at the shot show last weeks they said probably 9 month wait after the show. but thats kind of the idea of what I'm going for.

I'm looking at starting with a used 700 xcr compact. it has 20 inch barrel badger base and bolt knob. the optics i have are nf 5.5x20x50 mrad. i will have some trigger and action work done by my guy when we he does the stock. but my main concern is weight. i know that scope weighs alot. whats the lightest stock i can get. and also any other gun suggestions. and if anyone has a line on a gladius let me know. thanks to all

 

[TXBRASS]

Re: wanting to build most light compact .308 i can

HS Precision stock is pretty light. Cut barrel down to 16-18", aluminum base and rings... If you wanna go super-light, that will cut some OZ's....

 

[Goodwood]

Re: wanting to build most light compact .308 i can

It depends on how light you really want to get...

The barrel is likely to be the biggest determiner of the weight of the rifle. Profile, length, flutes... The XCR compact is still sporting a 20" barrel in basically a varmint contour with three wide flutes. If the barreled action of the XCR is "light enough" for what you are after than by all means, buy the used XCR, and choose a good stock from McMillan, Manners, etc... Nearly all of the big names in tactical and varmint stocks offer something good in a sub two pound stock.

When going REAL light, you'll find the bad thing about the XCR compact is the pre-existing flutes make cutting the barrel down below 19" or so a not so aesthetically pleasing proposition.

So, if you want to go super light, but still stay with a "tactical rifle," then you could start with a used short action SPS sporter. True the action and re-barrel with a conservative profile, 16-18 inch, fluted barrel. Put the action in a take-off HS stock from the LTR, and your choice of an old-style Remington or aftermarket trigger. This could be done for about the price of a (new) XCR Compact, but it would likely shoot better, and be up to a pound and a half (or so) lighter. Of course, this would be a bit of a top heavy rifle with the NF scope.

Might I suggest visiting the "show me your 20 incher" thread, or the "16-18 inch rifles" thread. They have a TON of guns that would fit the lightweight and super-lightweight categories that can give you some ideas. just a warning though... I have spend a lot of money due to browsing those two picture threads!

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[HOGTOOTH5R]

i would love a gap gladius. i would buy one right now. i can't find one anywhere. and i talked to em at the shot show last weeks they said probably 9 month wait after the show. but thats kind of the idea of what I'm going for.

I'm looking at starting with a used 700 xcr compact. it has 20 inch barrel badger base and bolt knob. the optics i have are nf 5.5x20x50 mrad. i will have some trigger and action work done by my guy when we he does the stock. but my main concern is weight. i know that scope weighs alot. whats the lightest stock i can get. and also any other gun suggestions. and if anyone has a line on a gladius let me know. thanks to all

Search around for a AAS-SD .308 in a 16" Treaded Barrel 1 in 10 Twist. It's perfect for what you're looking for. Put it in a AICS 2.0 and you got yourself a SBR Compact Rifle! Now keep in mind the Gladius has a Surefire Brake Installed which itself is fairly long so the Actual Barrel part should be about 16" also.

I got one and waiting on funds for a AICS right now. It's pretty dam accurate out to 300 yards so far and sub moa at 100 easy!

 

[TorF]

Try something completely different. Try a Blaser R8 professional with semi weight barrel and match trigger. The R8 is a "short action" so a given OAL gives you 2" additional barrel length. The R8 shoot lake a laser. I have yet to see a R8 with poor accuracy and Blasers are very common in Scandinavia. Call Alex@eurooptic

http://www.eurooptic.com/blaser-r8-professional-green-complete-rifle.aspx

Here's a video of a R93 in action (I prefer the heavier R8) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqDER9lnnCQ

 

[CrazyDonkey]

The first question you need to ask yourself is how light do you really want to go. That will help you get the right suggestions.

 

[lonely_wolf]

For lightweight an HSP stock is not the best choice. While the LTR model is slimmer and shorter than most stocks, it still has an aluminum block running most of its length. The better options are a Manners stock with carbon fiber fill or a McMillan with Edge fill. Depending on the model chosen, it will easily be half the weight of the LTR.

Aluminum or titanium rings and base are good choices. They save a lot of weight compared to their steel equivalents. Maybe even go as far as two piece bases depending on your preference and needs.

Lastly an aluminum BDL (Badger or PTG) will be much lighter than any DBM on the market.

If you are really counting ounces I would avoid fancy boltknobs too.

 

[Reject2009]

If accuracy is not your main concern, and you are solely concerned with weight, Steyr Scout, 6.6# w/o glass.

 

[Crosshair]

Something to throw out there...Does anyone know if Sportsmans warehouse still have the (exclusive) Tikka T3 Superlite? It has a stainless fluted barrel and comes in at 5.8 lbs, and everyone I've heard from says they easily hold sub moa out of the box. Throw a 20 oz optic and be a hair over 7 lbs. McMillan and manners inlet stocks for them too.

 

[CrazyDonkey]

I don't think Beretta imports them anymore. Tikka T3 Lite and Hunter are maybe a pound heavier? I got a Lite to base my build, new short light contour barrel and a manners EHT stock.

 

[EastBayRidge]

This one kinda makes my underwear tight:

http://blackopsprecision.com/?product=specter-babr-rifle

 

[sail2468]

Manners does carbon fiber stocks that save weight and a Ti base will take some more weight off too. Ounces make pounds.

 

[Luky]

Find one of these in .308...

 

[John1911.com]

Try something completely different. Try a Blaser R8 professional with semi weight barrel and match trigger. The R8 is a "short action" so a given OAL gives you 2" additional barrel length. The R8 shoot lake a laser. I have yet to see a R8 with poor accuracy and Blasers are very common in Scandinavia. Call Alex@eurooptic

http://www.eurooptic.com/blaser-r8-professional-green-complete-rifle.aspx


Here's a video of a R93 in action (I prefer the heavier R8) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqDER9lnnCQ

I have to agree. These are real sleepers. Certainly an option if OP is serious about his specs. The OP can use a lighter barrel for hunting and toss on a uber thick match barrel for heat dissipation at a match. Both will shoot exactly the same, the heavier will keep the groups from stringing due to heat.

Marky

 

[WVshooter]

Put the money down and wait on the Gladius. The time will go by before you know it and you won't be sorry you did. Get the gun you want.

 

[Individual1]

Savage Model: 11/111 Lightweight Hunter 5.5lbs

Savage Arms

 

[seanh]

anyone remember the guy that built ultra-light rem 700's back in the 80s-90's. They had fluted/lightened actions, fluted bolts, skeletonized bolt handle, fluted or thin barrels, very light kevlar sporter stocks.

don't know if this is the same guy but if it is, they're worth taking a look at. Even though the barrels are thin, you can get a few shots that are sub .5moa

MGA Ultra-Light Rifle

 

[nexusfire]

I built a gap non typical with am Hs precision that was just about 6.5 pounds. Also have a surgeon in an htg stock and #4 kreiger that is a tad over 7#. I think the barrel is the key as long as you use a sub 2# stock.

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