I have been contemplating purchasing a .338 Lapua rifle for about 3 years now and I finally have put away enough money to actually purchase something in the 3k-4k price range. I have several options that I've looked into, including a custom build, but I keep going back to look at the SAKO TRG-42. It seems like I keep reading that this rifle is an exceptional value for the money and is, perhaps, the best choice for accuracy out of the box in a factory 338 Lapua rifle. I'm sure that many of you guys are far more knowledgeable than I am in this area, so I'm hoping that I might get some responses from those who have had actual experience with this particular rifle. I'm getting to the point where I'm ready to make a decision on a purchase, but I guess I just need a little more reassurance that this rifle is a good choice for the money. If any of you guys have opinions on why I should or should not choose the SAKO, I would love to hear about it. I have read a lot of good reviews on the TRG-42, but I haven't seen much negative on it. I am particularly interested in knowing what might be the cons of going with the SAKO. Thanks for any help you guys are willing to provide!
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Price of accessories is about the only downside.
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TRGs are great, just make sure you have $2K+ set aside for optics and accessories.
Well, I already have optics and I do reload and have certainly investigated the price of loading for 338LM, so I'm good there. I'm just trying to decide if this is really the rifle I should choose or if might be happier with something else. I have access to places where I can shoot unlimited distance and accuracy is very important for me. I am capable of pretty decent accuracy, so I get really irritated with guns that can't shoot as well as I do and I immediately dislike those guns and get rid of them. I understand that with the right load and shooter, the TRG-42 should be capable of .5 moa out of the box. If that is true, then this is quite acceptable to me. Another that I have considered is the CZ HET 550 Magnum. I just cannot find ANY information in the form of reviews on this rifle. If anybody knows anything about the CZ, I am all ears.
The stock on the TRG has concerned me a bit as I don't particularly like it, but if I can get outstanding accuracy out of the rifle, I can learn to like that stock. I actually prefer the stock on the CZ HET. I have looked at the DTA and, while they seem impressive, they are not the direction I wish to go. If I could find any info that would lead me to believe that the CZ would perform as well as the SAKO as far as accuracy, then I would quickly choose the CZ as the price tags on the two are nearly identical.
nnn66
I wrote this post answering to a Member looking at the Savage 110 BA vs Sako TRG 42.
It may give you some answers.
BB KoncepZ
My 2 cents, IMHO.
The Savage 110 BA is a good rifle for the price, with a couple of issues that can be dealt with. The main one is: for most 110 BA, do not use soft brass, it will get stuck; stick to Lapua brass to solve this issue. We talked about it in a lengthy manner in this forum but, as the format changed, I do not know if you can still have access to these posts. The Sako TRG 42 is in a different league, it is a very good rifle, used as an issued sniper rifle by several countries and also comes with a different price tag, so it is not fair to the Savage to compare these two rifles. As far as accessories for the Sako, they are now easily accessible, not like in the past and it is up to you to decide if you want to go with the Sako brand or something else. The bipod is expensive at $450 but it is a good one (I have one on my TRG 22), the feet are wide enough not to sink in sand, you will learn to appreciate this in a desert like landscape, or snow. The grips on the bipod feet will grab into almost anything and it makes it very easy to load. They are easily deployed and have a good range of motion. your most common other choices for bipods would be the Atlas and the Harris. The Harris is a good little bipod that is used by many, it is the most affordable, I think around $110, make sure you go with the leg notch sling swivel and get a pod lock with it. It is not as efficient, IMHO, than the Sako, or the Atlas but it works too and will get the job done (I have one on my PSS), too bad that Phoenix Tactical does not have these Pod Claws anymore, I would have like to try these on a Harris. The Atlas is a great bipod (around $300 or a bit more with accessories) and you will not be disappointed (it will go on my next rifle). It has a great range of motion, with multiple configurations and loads great. The Sako muzzle brake is at $150 and works very well; the spacer for LOP ($32) and cheek piece spacer ($75) are convenient and will make you feel at home when handling your rifle. I am not aware of any issues with current issued Sako; they had stock issues many years ago but it has been corrected. The barrel twist used to be 1-12 and is now at 1-10, better for big pills such as 300gr, the 1-12 was very efficient with the 250 gr. The 1-10 is marked on the barrel for the latest TRG 42's. The Savage has a 1-9 barrel twist and will shoot big pills with no problem; this rate of twist is also favorable to the VLD's for ELR shots.
As far as accuracy goes, the Savage is good, the Sako is a bit better; remember that in the hands of an average shooter, no miracle will happen, they will both shoot as good as the guy behind the rifle. The Accutrigger of the Savage is good, the TRG's trigger is great and one of the best out there but don't go below 2 lbs. Stock configuration and ergonomics, we are all built different and some may like the Savage better, but the Sako fits me better (6 feet, 200 lbs). Choice of brass; as I mentioned earlier, you may encounter issues with the Savage if you are using soft brass; to the best of my knowledge, the Sako will shoot anything. Recoil, both are fine, with a good muzzle brake. Actions, the Sako is smoother than the Savage.
I am not putting the 110 BA down, just talking about my personal experience with the two rifles. There are other rifles that will have an edge on the Sako but then again, the price tag changes and you will be looking at the top rifles made by the top builders.
The Savage cost less than the Sako, just like a Ford Mustang cost less than a Porsche and a Ferrari cost more than a Porsche. There are reasons why but you can have plenty of fun with a Mustang 110 BA and try your skills at 2000 yards.
There is about $1000 price difference between the 110 BA and the TRG 42, or a bit more depending on where you will purchase it; your main expense will be on ammo, so if you do not reload, look into it. Even if money is no issue, reloading can give you better accuracy and a better understanding of why such a bullet/brass/primer/powder combination works better in your rifle than factory ammo.
I hope this post will help you some, you will not be disappointed with either one.
Good shooting.
Ombre noire
I wrote this post answering to a Member looking at the Savage 110 BA vs Sako TRG 42.
It may give you some answers.
BB KoncepZ
My 2 cents, IMHO.
The Savage 110 BA is a good rifle for the price, with a couple of issues that can be dealt with. The main one is: for most 110 BA, do not use soft brass, it will get stuck; stick to Lapua brass to solve this issue. We talked about it in a lengthy manner in this forum but, as the format changed, I do not know if you can still have access to these posts. The Sako TRG 42 is in a different league, it is a very good rifle, used as an issued sniper rifle by several countries and also comes with a different price tag, so it is not fair to the Savage to compare these two rifles. As far as accessories for the Sako, they are now easily accessible, not like in the past and it is up to you to decide if you want to go with the Sako brand or something else. The bipod is expensive at $450 but it is a good one (I have one on my TRG 22), the feet are wide enough not to sink in sand, you will learn to appreciate this in a desert like landscape, or snow. The grips on the bipod feet will grab into almost anything and it makes it very easy to load. They are easily deployed and have a good range of motion. your most common other choices for bipods would be the Atlas and the Harris. The Harris is a good little bipod that is used by many, it is the most affordable, I think around $110, make sure you go with the leg notch sling swivel and get a pod lock with it. It is not as efficient, IMHO, than the Sako, or the Atlas but it works too and will get the job done (I have one on my PSS), too bad that Phoenix Tactical does not have these Pod Claws anymore, I would have like to try these on a Harris. The Atlas is a great bipod (around $300 or a bit more with accessories) and you will not be disappointed (it will go on my next rifle). It has a great range of motion, with multiple configurations and loads great. The Sako muzzle brake is at $150 and works very well; the spacer for LOP ($32) and cheek piece spacer ($75) are convenient and will make you feel at home when handling your rifle. I am not aware of any issues with current issued Sako; they had stock issues many years ago but it has been corrected. The barrel twist used to be 1-12 and is now at 1-10, better for big pills such as 300gr, the 1-12 was very efficient with the 250 gr. The 1-10 is marked on the barrel for the latest TRG 42's. The Savage has a 1-9 barrel twist and will shoot big pills with no problem; this rate of twist is also favorable to the VLD's for ELR shots.
As far as accuracy goes, the Savage is good, the Sako is a bit better; remember that in the hands of an average shooter, no miracle will happen, they will both shoot as good as the guy behind the rifle. The Accutrigger of the Savage is good, the TRG's trigger is great and one of the best out there but don't go below 2 lbs. Stock configuration and ergonomics, we are all built different and some may like the Savage better, but the Sako fits me better (6 feet, 200 lbs). Choice of brass; as I mentioned earlier, you may encounter issues with the Savage if you are using soft brass; to the best of my knowledge, the Sako will shoot anything. Recoil, both are fine, with a good muzzle brake. Actions, the Sako is smoother than the Savage.
I am not putting the 110 BA down, just talking about my personal experience with the two rifles. There are other rifles that will have an edge on the Sako but then again, the price tag changes and you will be looking at the top rifles made by the top builders.
The Savage cost less than the Sako, just like a Ford Mustang cost less than a Porsche and a Ferrari cost more than a Porsche. There are reasons why but you can have plenty of fun with a Mustang 110 BA and try your skills at 2000 yards.
There is about $1000 price difference between the 110 BA and the TRG 42, or a bit more depending on where you will purchase it; your main expense will be on ammo, so if you do not reload, look into it. Even if money is no issue, reloading can give you better accuracy and a better understanding of why such a bullet/brass/primer/powder combination works better in your rifle than factory ammo.
I hope this post will help you some, you will not be disappointed with either one.
Good shooting.
Ombre noire
For the most part, I like my TRG42.
Without question, it is exceptionally accurate. I have printed a 2" group at 600 yards with it; with 3 of the 5 rounds going into a tight cloverleaf.
I like that it is a fairly lightweight platform, the trigger really lets off clean, and the action feels smooth.
I don't like the stock is made of plastic, is prone to cracking, and when you scratch it, is yellow underneath like a 1990's Honda civic bumper. The bolt knob is plastic, and is fastened to the bolt lever via a plastic push-pin. The trigger housing is plastic, and the trigger shoe itself is most plastic.
As mentioned above, the accessories are high dollar. You'll need a cheekpiece spacer or two, for $50 a pop. The $400 sako bipod is awesome, and really rounds out the TRG platform, so you'll want to buy it. Spend the money on the phosphate finish, as the regular blue finish is tough to keep nice. It really wants to rust. Magazines are spendy, but most folks running a 338LM don't need a bunch of magazines.
Overall, it's a good rifle, but my advice to you would be to buy a used, fully-outfitted TRG from someone that has played with it and realized they didn't really want/need a 338. Generally, these will come nearly complete with all the odds/ends and usually loading equipment as well. It'll be a big lump sum, but considerably less than you'd pay if you pieced the kit together buying everything new, ala carte.
Good luck.
Without question, it is exceptionally accurate. I have printed a 2" group at 600 yards with it; with 3 of the 5 rounds going into a tight cloverleaf.
I like that it is a fairly lightweight platform, the trigger really lets off clean, and the action feels smooth.
I don't like the stock is made of plastic, is prone to cracking, and when you scratch it, is yellow underneath like a 1990's Honda civic bumper. The bolt knob is plastic, and is fastened to the bolt lever via a plastic push-pin. The trigger housing is plastic, and the trigger shoe itself is most plastic.
As mentioned above, the accessories are high dollar. You'll need a cheekpiece spacer or two, for $50 a pop. The $400 sako bipod is awesome, and really rounds out the TRG platform, so you'll want to buy it. Spend the money on the phosphate finish, as the regular blue finish is tough to keep nice. It really wants to rust. Magazines are spendy, but most folks running a 338LM don't need a bunch of magazines.
Overall, it's a good rifle, but my advice to you would be to buy a used, fully-outfitted TRG from someone that has played with it and realized they didn't really want/need a 338. Generally, these will come nearly complete with all the odds/ends and usually loading equipment as well. It'll be a big lump sum, but considerably less than you'd pay if you pieced the kit together buying everything new, ala carte.
Good luck.
I bought a trg 42 in 300 win mag several years ago and here is what I think of it. Accuracy has always been top notch, if it shoots more than .50 moa at 100 it is not the rifle. the factory bipod is the best I have ever used, it is sturdy, well made, and attatches/detatches in seconds. the bolt throw is short and very smooth. I like the trigger to the extent it is very crisp and clean and easy to adjust, I do not like that it moves side to side with minimal force, and that it is made of mostly plastic. I also do not like the M18x1 muzzle threads, there is not the selection there is with more common thread patterns.
The trg also feels like a quality piece of work, pick up a savage 110 ba and tell me the first thing that goes through your head is quality. Dont get me wrong they do shoot very well but they feel like rubbish and hurt my eyes to look at. The trg feels like a rifle should and shoots even better. The only upgrade to the trg in my mind for conventional type rifles would be the AX series from accuracy international. The trg is an exceptional value, there is no production rifle at that price point that will give you the options or preformance the trg offers.
Just my experience thanks for listning.
The trg also feels like a quality piece of work, pick up a savage 110 ba and tell me the first thing that goes through your head is quality. Dont get me wrong they do shoot very well but they feel like rubbish and hurt my eyes to look at. The trg feels like a rifle should and shoots even better. The only upgrade to the trg in my mind for conventional type rifles would be the AX series from accuracy international. The trg is an exceptional value, there is no production rifle at that price point that will give you the options or preformance the trg offers.
Just my experience thanks for listning.
My TRG has almost 300rnds down it. Shoots 300gr Scenars and SMKs into a nickle sized hole at 200yds. Can't get the Bergers to print very well so they got some moly spray and will be used for single loaded subsonic shooting. Only had Retumbo, H1000, and 50BMG powder to play with. Didn't buy the bipod since 4 bills seemed nuts, bought a 25moa pic rail from Near Manufacturing which is a beautiful piece of work. The trigger on the TRG is the best I've used and it's fully adjustable for the 1st and 2nd stages. At a little over 11# it's on the lighter side though I wish the barrel had flutes to help cooling and shave a little more weight. It does recoil pretty good, put an AAC Titan-qd brake-out on it for the titan can; the brake works great at taming it down until you screw on the can then it gets quiet and kicks like a mule. I'm looking at buying another trg in 6.5mm once the crazyness goes away.
Yes it does, until you use it. It really is stellar, and worth the money IMO. If you are patient and keep looking around, you can find them a little cheaper.
If you're considering a SAKO TRG-42, which is a very good rifle, then why not go the extra mile and have a custom .338LM built?
For not much more, you can have whatever components you'd like assembled to your specific requests.
I have the Savage BA110 .338LM. A fine rifle for the initial investment. However, after shooting this stick for over 1.5 years, I'm now in the market for something a bit
more upscale if you will. I'm having a .338LM built by SAC/Mark Gordon. Right around $4,500.00
But when it's all said and done, this will be a huge improvement for my investment.
Fat Bastard Break, 30" Bartlein Barrel 1-9:35 twist, Murphy Precision rail 45 MOA cant, Alpha II Action (Defiance Machine made to SAC specs), Manners T4-A stock, Black
Ops Bottom Metal and Jewel Trigger.
Can't wait till August. Good luck on your decision.
MDslammer
For not much more, you can have whatever components you'd like assembled to your specific requests.
I have the Savage BA110 .338LM. A fine rifle for the initial investment. However, after shooting this stick for over 1.5 years, I'm now in the market for something a bit
more upscale if you will. I'm having a .338LM built by SAC/Mark Gordon. Right around $4,500.00
But when it's all said and done, this will be a huge improvement for my investment.
Fat Bastard Break, 30" Bartlein Barrel 1-9:35 twist, Murphy Precision rail 45 MOA cant, Alpha II Action (Defiance Machine made to SAC specs), Manners T4-A stock, Black
Ops Bottom Metal and Jewel Trigger.
Can't wait till August. Good luck on your decision.
MDslammer
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and many around here agree with you. I am going to offer a counterpoint, for the sake of debate.
A Sako TRG 42 can be had for $3000 from Euro Optic, brand new. http://www.eurooptic.com/sako-trg-42-338-lapua-black-fixed-stock-matte-metal-finish.aspx
I believe they are still offering a $100 discount for paying by e check, getting us down to $2900.
Your custom build is $4500. $1600 more, or 55% more. If you are making the argument that its worth the extra 55%, you must be getting a better product, right? In my opinion, no. Most customs are built on some sort of Remington 700 pattern action. Your Defiance included. Nothing wrong with a 700 action, and a Defiance is really nice, but it is still technology based on a 100 year old (Mauser) sporting action, where the TRG is a modern military action. I prefer modern technology to legacy technology, the 60 degree bolt throw is superior in my opinion, and the Sako sees combat use as a sniper rifle in a number of countries.
What about accuracy? I am willing to bet real cash that the Sako is at least as accurate as the custom. I have never seen a TRG be over a 1/2 moa rifle, generally they are 1/4 MOA.
Finally, with the TRG you can order it Monday and shoot it next weekend. With the custom, you have to wait. Not saying Mark is like this as I have heard nothing but good things about him, but it is VERY common in the gunsmithing world to use their timeframe as a "general guideline" and not a definitive deadline. Hell, it's not super uncommon to get quoted 6 months and have it take a year and a half. And then come in with issues requiring it to be sent back to the smith for correction. Better not bitch about it openly, you will get BLASTED for not "giving him a chance to make it right" (fixing what should have been right the first time.)
And one more point to make: get tired of shooting the TRG 100 rounds later? Factory rifles generally have a MUCH higher resale % retained value over a custom. There are exceptions, factory Surgeons, GAPs, and Tac Ops rifles generally hold their value well. But the smaller shops? Not so much.
Just my opinion and again, you are welcome to yours!
-Bob
$3000 - TRG 42
$450 - Sako bipod
$410 - Spuhr mount
$50 - cheek spacer
$250 - Near brake
$4160 - done deal by the end of the week with plenty left over for a 2nd mag.
I too beleve the TRG is a no brainer. I have been shooting one for almost 5 years and have had many other high end rifles come and go during that time (AIAW, GAP 591, GAP M40A5, ect...) the only one to stay is the TRG. They are that good!!
$450 - Sako bipod
$410 - Spuhr mount
$50 - cheek spacer
$250 - Near brake
$4160 - done deal by the end of the week with plenty left over for a 2nd mag.
I too beleve the TRG is a no brainer. I have been shooting one for almost 5 years and have had many other high end rifles come and go during that time (AIAW, GAP 591, GAP M40A5, ect...) the only one to stay is the TRG. They are that good!!
My 2 cents
Looks like we have very knowledgeable shooters with different opinions, which is not uncommon whatsoever.
At this point of the debate, IMHO, everyone is right because we WILL get what seems to be the best choice for US. It can be a matter of $$, looks, accuracy or whatever rocks our boat.
We are talking about top rifles ($3000 and up) and every shooter will, rightfully, take side for what worked for him, based on actual facts. Some rifles will cost more, won't necessary be more accurate, or more reliable but their owners will swear by it and would spend the $$ again, if they had to.
Why? Because it works for them and you can't beat that.
I would shoot mdslammer's SAC any day, as well as jbell and bm11 TRG's too. Eventually, I may like one of these rifles better and that's just how it is but it would be just my opinion.
Nevertheless, I am a strong believer that such forum debates are very helpful to the shooting community in general and especially to FNG's looking for a new stick, as the tremendous amount of straight up, truthful info coming out of these debate is rarely displayed in magazines and publications, often leaving the bad for the good (don't piss off the paying customers).
For the record, my TRG 22 .308 is a tack driver, best rifle I ever owned. I will eventually sell it (need the $$) to get a Tac Ops.
Why? Because I feel like it.
Will the TAC OPS be a better shooter? I certainly hope so but the Sako gave me .187 at 100 yards, .118 at 200 yards, etc... I shot this rifle to stupid distances (ELR) for a .308 and it always delivered beyond expectations.
Would I keep the TRG is $$ were not an issue? Absolutely but I would still get the Tac Ops; they are not only extremely accurate but also are true work of art.
This could be another topic; I hope I did not go too far off topic for nnn66's post.
Just felt like a good day to write this.
Good shooting.
Ombre noire
Looks like we have very knowledgeable shooters with different opinions, which is not uncommon whatsoever.
At this point of the debate, IMHO, everyone is right because we WILL get what seems to be the best choice for US. It can be a matter of $$, looks, accuracy or whatever rocks our boat.
We are talking about top rifles ($3000 and up) and every shooter will, rightfully, take side for what worked for him, based on actual facts. Some rifles will cost more, won't necessary be more accurate, or more reliable but their owners will swear by it and would spend the $$ again, if they had to.
Why? Because it works for them and you can't beat that.
I would shoot mdslammer's SAC any day, as well as jbell and bm11 TRG's too. Eventually, I may like one of these rifles better and that's just how it is but it would be just my opinion.
Nevertheless, I am a strong believer that such forum debates are very helpful to the shooting community in general and especially to FNG's looking for a new stick, as the tremendous amount of straight up, truthful info coming out of these debate is rarely displayed in magazines and publications, often leaving the bad for the good (don't piss off the paying customers).
For the record, my TRG 22 .308 is a tack driver, best rifle I ever owned. I will eventually sell it (need the $$) to get a Tac Ops.
Why? Because I feel like it.
Will the TAC OPS be a better shooter? I certainly hope so but the Sako gave me .187 at 100 yards, .118 at 200 yards, etc... I shot this rifle to stupid distances (ELR) for a .308 and it always delivered beyond expectations.
Would I keep the TRG is $$ were not an issue? Absolutely but I would still get the Tac Ops; they are not only extremely accurate but also are true work of art.
This could be another topic; I hope I did not go too far off topic for nnn66's post.
Just felt like a good day to write this.
Good shooting.
Ombre noire
66, you said you didn't like the stock. If this is because you tried one and weren't comfortable behind it, fine. If it is because of the looks then try one. I find it very comfortable and it was easy to get used to. Mine is a 1/2" gun with the first load I tried. That's using standard RCBS dies and not being obsessive in the case prep.
The accessories are expensive but worth it. The bipod is worth every cent it costs, the factory brake is very effective and the gun is substanially lighter than most customs are spec'd at. I have had no problems but my experience is admitedly limited. The only negatives I found when doing research were cracking at the grip, breaking the latch pin on the bipod and unreliability of the trigger after adjustment.
If you have an unlimited budget, than cost is not a concern. Value on the other hand should always be a concern. Turbo54's advice, regarding a low round count pre-owned rifle, is correct but at Euro Optics current pricing why wait?
The accessories are expensive but worth it. The bipod is worth every cent it costs, the factory brake is very effective and the gun is substanially lighter than most customs are spec'd at. I have had no problems but my experience is admitedly limited. The only negatives I found when doing research were cracking at the grip, breaking the latch pin on the bipod and unreliability of the trigger after adjustment.
If you have an unlimited budget, than cost is not a concern. Value on the other hand should always be a concern. Turbo54's advice, regarding a low round count pre-owned rifle, is correct but at Euro Optics current pricing why wait?
I too am a TRG-42 fan. I worked up a load for mine this past Friday. After all the shooting was done, I had my load and was very surprised. I shoot groups at 300 yards rather than do a ladder test. Its been my experience that if it will shoot at 300 yards, it will shoot at 1K and further. I use the Harris Bipod, Near Base, and Brake with a N/F Scope and Rings. Temp was about 45 Degrees and the wind was blowing 20-25 mph from the N/W. Best group at 300 yards was well under 1 inch with the Berger 300 Grain OTM and Retumbo. To me it dosent get much better. I got mine from EuroOptic about 18 months ago when they had a sale for $2200.00. Its the most accurate factory rifle I have ever owned. Best of luck with your choice.
I "Finally" got a Good gun. It was the TRG-42, in 300 Win Mag. It is, by far, the sweetest gun I've shot. You won't be disappointed. Call Jason, at Europtics, and order one! Trust me! 338 or 300. It doesn't matter. I got the 300, cause I have 308s, and can use the same or heavier bullets, for both to reload. Get the Sako bipod. The price is high, but it "works" with the gun. I tried another, but the center of gravity on the gun "wants" the Sako bipod. Good Luck! Just me.
i have the TRG-42. I wanted the SAKO bipod, but for $ 450, but no way. i went with the GG&G heavy Bipod and rail adapter. Very solid and half the money (exactally) and i am very happy with it. The factory break is fine, but I have seen the Ratworkz "Big Chubby" and looks good
TRG's are great rifles but not perfect, since there have been so many positive comments, I'll address the negatives. Keep in mind that we really like TRG's and TRG related products are at the core of our company in a big way. The cons are these roughly: some sporadic trigger issues, the older gen bipods breaking, and the bolt stop pin breaking. Those are things we've seen first hand but we really use our TRG's, I have seen other issues on the internet but you never know what the actual frequency of occurrence since one incident gets cross referenced a bunch of times on different forums, etc. However, there's no perfect rifle out there, you can find instances of AI rifle issues as well (apart from the ergonomics and weight I mean). For the money it's probably the best value in a precision rifle out there. A Tikka T3 varmint in our chassis would probably be the only way to beat it value-wise in my opinion but you can't get a T3 varmint anywhere now. Price aside, I would take a TRG over a custom Rem 700 based rifle any day, and I have a very nice Mike Bryant built .243AI for comparison.
Justin
Justin
I've had my TRG-42 300 WM for about 2 years. Nightforce MOAR 5.5x22x50 is my latest upgrade. I like the stocks adjustability and it has a great fit. I use a NEAR Alpha mount with a 20 MOA Base. Shooting it is a pure dream! It loves 208 AMax and I get great accuracy out of that round. I haven't jumped for the factory bipod, I use a Harris with the swivel and adjustable notched legs. 600 yards is incredibly easy- forcing me to 1000 to even come to a challenge. It'll bug hole 100 yards and with the right scope it's legs really are not stretched until you start shooting 1k +. If you go TRG, although you may own other rifles in your future, the TRG is a mainstay in the arsenal. I truly can't see myself waiting on a custom rifle when I can buy this, hit the range, and shoot comparable groups with the custom guys. It's the best rifle purchase I've made for the money..... IMHO
I really like the TRG also. I had a TRG-42 in 300 winmag and now a TRG-22 I had rebarreled into a 260 for comps. For the same price for the TRG bipod you could get a LRA Bipod and use it on other rifles also. All it takes is a rail like the one you can get from Accu-Shot. Thats what I have on mine
Are the 300's avaliable again? i called euro optics a couple months ago and they said the 300's werent imported anymore.
cjg
Thats about the best advice I have every read on SH, I have owned a boat load of custom rifles myself and ya'll younger fellows that are still pissing yellow should pay attention to Bob' advice.
I don't know if the 300 Win Mag is still {new} available. Look for a used.The ammo is half the 338 price.
when i was deciding, the ammo price was the deciding factor. i dont shoot beyond 1500 very often so it didnt make sense to be buying projectiles that are double the price. 300wm makes a lot of sense for people who like to actually use them a lot.
AND I use it ALOT! 300s are cheaper.
That pic, could be a bikini, with 38double d<s, and i'd feel the same way.
Wow Nice PicLook at the way the Legs are extended......Yumphus!!!!!!!!!.
Wow Nice PicLook at the way the Legs are extended......Yumphus!!!!!!!!!.
I really like the TRG also. I had a TRG-42 in 300 winmag and now a TRG-22 I had rebarreled into a 260 for comps. For the same price for the TRG bipod you could get a LRA Bipod and use it on other rifles also. All it takes is a rail like the one you can get from Accu-Shot. Thats what I have on mine
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Well, since we're on this Subject here's something you might want to consider when you're ready to spend your Money. Might want to wait a little for the 2013 Upgraded Units.
It's unclear how much difference it'll make on a already great product, but there's just some people out there that might be slightly agitated by not getting the Latest...
FWIW:
http://www.snipershide.com/shooting/showthread.php?t=178332
It's unclear how much difference it'll make on a already great product, but there's just some people out there that might be slightly agitated by not getting the Latest...
FWIW:
http://www.snipershide.com/shooting/showthread.php?t=178332
