AR 10T upper question

[shooter101]

I have an AR10 T with a 24 inch barrel. I bought it to shoot and to hog hunt with. Unfortunately it is too heavy for the hog hunting use. My son has a AR10 with a 16 inch barrel, so we switched uppers. His upper would shoot fine on the first shot and not shoot till you chambered another round. It was trying to double fire by looking at the primer of the round manually ejected but seemed not to have enough ooomph to fire the primer. My son also had issues with my upper on his lower, so we ditched the trade.

My question{s} are, do i need a T upper to fit my lower? Would i be better off buying a separate upper, or rebarreling my upper? Accuracy is important, but i am willing to trade some accuracy for weight. Thanks in advance for any and all guidance.

 

[BOLTRIPPER]

Re: AR 10T upper question

the 10-T is the finest off the shelf .308 gasser period......its a hammer......

if you must use a target gun for pigs ..stand off and pick your shots, however.....if you can't do the schlepp, get something else

 

[shooter101]

Re: AR 10T upper question

Not sure what doing the schlepp is but i want my rifle light enough to carry in a somewhat ready position while walking in.
At 54 my giddyup is in question. Sure another gun would probably work, but i am asking about a shorter and lighter barrel, or a lighter upper.

 

[SmokeRolls]

Re: AR 10T upper question

Lowers should be identical.
Do you both have the standard A-2 stocks with standard springs/buffers?
What kind of ammo are you both running?
.....SmokeRolls

 

[BOLTRIPPER]

Re: AR 10T upper question

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shooter101</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not sure what doing the schlepp is but i want my rifle light enough to carry in a somewhat ready position while walking in.
At 54 my giddyup is in question. Sure another gun would probably work, but i am asking about a shorter and lighter barrel, or a lighter upper. </div></div>



dude.....you would think at your advanced age you would learn something, like how to take someones lead.....you are trying to stuff a big round thing in a small square slot.......either get a really big hammer or ....get a clue....

 

[shooter101]

Re: AR 10T upper question

Smoke mine is the A2 his is the adjustable i shoot 168 BTHP he is shooting 175? SMKs

 

[shooter101]

Re: AR 10T upper question

Boltripper, dude, if i had a clue i would certainly not waste yours or anyone elses valuable time on here. Now please excuse me while i schlepp off to bed.

 

[SmokeRolls]

Re: AR 10T upper question

Why don't you just trade rifles completely and the problem is solved. No more mix matching and everyone goes home happy.
You get a lighter weapon and he gets a longer range tack driver.
An Armalite lower is an Armalite lower. The only difference may be the stock and trigger.
.....SmokeRolls

 

[BOLTRIPPER]

Re: AR 10T upper question

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TheSmokeRolls</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why don't you just trade rifles completely and the problem is solved. No more mix matching and everyone goes home happy.
You get a lighter weapon and he gets a longer range tack driver.
An Armalite lower in an Armalite lower. The only difference may be the stock and trigger.
.....SmokeRolls</div></div>




.....now there;s a thought..............

 

[Aimsmall55]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TheSmokeRolls</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why don't you just trade rifles completely and the problem is solved. No more mix matching and everyone goes home happy.
You get a lighter weapon and he gets a longer range tack driver.
An Armalite lower in an Armalite lower. The only difference may be the stock and trigger.
.....SmokeRolls</div></div>




.....now there;s a thought..............

Actually, you don't know what the fuck your talking about. He is my dad and he comes on here asking a simple ? And you wanna come off as a complete cock sucker. I had the armalite ar 10 T carbine with a 16" barrel. It shot every bit as good as my fathers. I took off the a2 and put on an adjustable piece with a cheek weld. With night vision attatched and a full 20 round mag the rifle weighs over 20 lbs. we ended up just letting each other use whatever rifle we needed. After all he's my dad. So they are our rifles not his or mine. And no, they would not work because my get up was a little different from his. But it all makes sense now.... He was telling me about he asked a simple question and some ass just ripped him a new one. It's assholes like you that make me wanna throw my computer against the wall. You made him so mad that he won't even get on anymore. And by the way... I've already got alot of "longer range tack drivers"

 

[Aimsmall55]

Ps. Disregard my signature on this one

 

[Aimsmall55]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shooter101</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not sure what doing the schlepp is but i want my rifle light enough to carry in a somewhat ready position while walking in.
At 54 my giddyup is in question. Sure another gun would probably work, but i am asking about a shorter and lighter barrel, or a lighter upper. </div></div>



dude.....you would think at your advanced age you would learn something, like how to take someones lead.....you are trying to stuff a big round thing in a small square slot.......either get a really big hammer or ....get a clue....

^^^ this is what I'm talking about.

 

[Mike_in_FL]

I'm not sure I follow the description of the malfunction. It might be that if you've kept the magazine with a particular lower it doesn't want to feed with the other upper. Same springs and buffers on each lower? Would seem like an ammo issue otherwise. AR10s have a spring on the firing pin so the hammer needs to whack the firing pin maybe harder than say a DPMS would. Same hammer, springs, trigger in each lower? The original BCG was left in each upper when the swap was made?

The only difference I know of in the 10T vs. other AR10 upper would be the longer rod for the ejection port door with the FF tube.

For other problems: Click username, View Profile, Add to Ignore List, problem solved.

 

[Aimsmall55]

I'm not sure I follow the description of the malfunction. It might be that if you've kept the magazine with a particular lower it doesn't want to feed with the other upper. Same springs and buffers on each lower? Would seem like an ammo issue otherwise. AR10s have a spring on the firing pin so the hammer needs to whack the firing pin maybe harder than say a DPMS would. Same hammer, springs, trigger in each lower? The original BCG was left in each upper when the swap was made?

The only difference I know of in the 10T vs. other AR10 upper would be the longer rod for the ejection port door with the FF tube.

For other problems: Click username, View Profile, Add to Ignore List, problem solved.

No, the springs and buffer are different. Had to change them when I added the adjustable butt stock and took the a2 off. That might be the culprit.

 

[AMMOWASTER]

He could also chop the T barrel down to 18-20 inches and save some weight that way

 

[Fitz.]

Sorry read some of the thread but not all. Stuck and waiting and thread is not conducive to iPhone.

Half in the bag doesn't help either.

Are the uppers and mags the same generation between rigs. Armalite has some info online for this. Old vs new.

I read some bit about buffers when I could previously focus my eyes. Make sure you haven't crossed weights with tubes.
I had a hell if a time figuring this one out a while ago. Things happen.

I've never had a AR10 not run right with 168's or 175's, Fex or PMC. I have a GA and and factory Lothar variant. I've seen strange stuff with 10's and everything else in comps. Things happen.

My recommendation is if you want a lighter rig buy/sell/trade for what you want from a trusted source.
I personally like GA.

Anyways, eyes still bleary and cross eyed, good luck

Fitz.

 

[GhostFace]

He could also chop the T barrel down to 18-20 inches and save some weight that way

This is the way to go, you will be amazed how the rifle handles by chopping a few inches off. Plus you give very little up in terms of velocity. I went from 2630 to 2588 going from 22 inches to 18.

 

[GCHK91]

With regard to chopping the barrel - Any suggestions on who could do the work? I have a 10T as well, and am thinking about either rebarreling, building a new upper, or chopping the existing barrel down to 18" or so. I would just get a new barrel / bolt, but can't find anything in stock (big surprise there...) so I'm looking for a reputable smith who can cut, thread, and crown my existing barrel.

 

[DavidAR10]

With regard to chopping the barrel - Any suggestions on who could do the work? I have a 10T as well, and am thinking about either rebarreling, building a new upper, or chopping the existing barrel down to 18" or so. I would just get a new barrel / bolt, but can't find anything in stock (big surprise there...) so I'm looking for a reputable smith who can cut, thread, and crown my existing barrel.

http://www.accurateordnance.com/

 

[AMMOWASTER]

With regard to chopping the barrel - Any suggestions on who could do the work? I have a 10T as well, and am thinking about either rebarreling, building a new upper, or chopping the existing barrel down to 18" or so. I would just get a new barrel / bolt, but can't find anything in stock (big surprise there...) so I'm looking for a reputable smith who can cut, thread, and crown my existing barrel.

Adco http://www.adcofirearms.com/ or Slash from AR15.com http://heavybuffers.com/index.html

 

[Danco411]

Sounds like the bolt carrier is not retracting enough to pick up the next round. This is either a gas issue or spring issue...usually gas. Interesting is the carbine should have more gas than the rifle length which makes me wonder if it may be the spring/buffer combination. The large platform AR's are finicky in the relationship between gas pressure and the buffer and spring. I for the life of me could not get a new DPMS build to pick up the next round. Discovered the gas block was just a c hair out of alignment. That little bit of lost gas pressure made the difference between a nice running rifle and a club. As a test did you try your 24" upper on his lower? Again simply swapping rifles would be an easy fix but I always need to figure out what's wrong. It's the OCD in me. LOL