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Suppressors cheap 22lr suppressor vs expensive ,worth it ?

hiddenmongoose

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Firstly I agree you get what you pay for.I rather save and wait out so I can afford stuff that is expensive but that I know is worth it.While im saving and waiting I normally try out or at least get to finger bang what im planning on buying.This is where Im having the problem with a quality /expensive 22lr can.Here in Ireland you can just buy a suppressor over the counter/no wait time.You also dont get many if any paying big money for a 22lr can.The suppressor I currently have on my 22 lr is a SAK, cost about 40 euro,so as I cant get to try out a top end can and see for myself the benifits what are the reasons you have paid top dollar for a 22lr can?The cheap SAK I own does a pretty good job so what differences will I see or gain from say a tbac 22l-1 or a sparrow?I use my 22 as a trainer(cz455 varmint) and for rabbit hunting, the can never comes off.
Thanks guys
 
Since in the US the tax stamp is close to 50% of the overall cost, I firmly believe in buying higher end (user serviceable etc).

Since you can buy them like candy over there things are obviously a bit different.
 
tctlrld said:
Since in the US the tax stamp is close to 50% of the overall cost, I firmly believe in buying higher end (user serviceable etc).

Since you can buy them like candy over there things are obviously a bit different.
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I agree 110%...we have a $200 tax on each can we purchase here in the States.

Go all out for the nice can that's lightweight, more corrosion resistant and user-serviceable!
 
Some cheap cans are better than others. For instance I have a huntertown arms guardian, which sounds much better than a YHM mite. The Sparrow and Tbac cans both perform very well, and you would be happy with them, but the difference in performance may or may not be noticeable to your ear.

I would not buy a .22 can that can't be cleaned by the user.
 
im interested in this as well. been kicking around the tbac 22-L versus a SS Sparrow and the Huntertown Guardian. just not sold one way or another yet.
 
One I can tell you NOT to buy is a SS Mite from YHM. I like most of YHM's products for bang for the buck, but this was the first 22 can I ever bought, and it now sits in my safe collecting dust. I only use it to demo people what a BAD 22 can sounds like haha.

One I like for the money is the Tactical Solutions Cascade Ti, its small, titanium, fairly lightweight, and sounds about identical to my TBAC 22S-1, very slight FRP, but the rest of the shots are about equal with the TBAC.

The 22L-1 is still the quietest 22 can Ive ever heard (heard most all of them). Its also the lightest magnum rated can out there, its even light by non magnum can standards at 4.1oz. Its not serviceable, but being titanium it can handle "The Dip" to clean it. I prefer this over a take apart because the majority of take apart cans require you clean them often if you want to still be able to take them apart. And I have two reasons to not want to do that. 1. Im lazy 2. 22 cans get quieter as they get dirtier, so just as it would start to get nice and quiet youd have to clean it and ruin all your hard work.
 
I give the Sparrow another thumbs up. I used my brother's on my CZ455PT and it sounds wonderful, as in very quiet and muffled. With sub-sonics (CCI and Aguila) all you could hear was the firing pin and spring. However, I have the Element2 and will be getting a second one for my wife. Both are great cans and are user serviceable.
 
As far as what you're all saying, i'd have to agree with you about the sparrow and other similar cans. However, for the OP since he has no tax stamp etc. it probably wouldn't benefit him quite so much as us. If I were in the market for a .22 can it'd be the sparrow for sure though.
 
It seems to me so that you guys normally splash out more on your cans due to the fact of the $200 stamp, and therefore when you do buy you buy something that is really going to last.Im undecided still as to whether its worth me importing a high end can or stick with my cheapy 40 euro can and replace it every couple years if need be.
 
I am going to buy another .22 Suppressor. I will not buy a user-cleanable can: from what I have read on this Site, after a few hundred rounds taking the Can apart was a bit of an ordeal.....shooting longer as indicated by what I read....it would be "more' of an ordeal trying to get the parts out....

With my Gemtech Outback 2, I can soak it or send it back...but I don't have to waste oddles of time worrying about how many rounds down range before I have to stop to clean...rather spend more time shooting vs cleaning...and from the way it might be....there willl be a lot of cleaning time vs actual shooting time.


Originally GemTech wanted nearly 50 per cent of the cost of the msrp of the suppressor to convert it to a user-can-take it apart to clean it.... I thought and still think that was an outrageous cost! So I've decided my next .22 Can will be the 22L-1...once i get the cash...all Titanium and I can just soak it.

My first mistake was buying a strictly .22LR suppressor: I should have bought one rated for .22 mag...then I would have had one can for two calibers....22LR and 22mag....
 
I learned the hard way....at least it was a cheap mistake. I bought YHM Mite several years ago and it sucked. I sent it to John Titsworth to be re-cored and now it is just like a Sparrow....and I probably have more in it than if I had bought the Sparrow first. But, it was either spend some money and make it good or have a $400+ paper weight.
 
ggmanning said:
I learned the hard way....at least it was a cheap mistake. I bought YHM Mite several years ago and it sucked. I sent it to John Titsworth to be re-cored and now it is just like a Sparrow....and I probably have more in it than if I had bought the Sparrow first. But, it was either spend some money and make it good or have a $400+ paper weight.
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This.

I love the baffle conversion John did. Almost no FRP and really quiet. I didn't have to wait another 7 months and got it fixed for about the price of another stamp. I thought I had the world's most expensive Mite, maybe we should start a club LOL
 
michael sr. said:
I am going to buy another .22 Suppressor. I will not buy a user-cleanable can: from what I have read on this Site, after a few hundred rounds taking the Can apart was a bit of an ordeal.....shooting longer as indicated by what I read....it would be "more' of an ordeal trying to get the parts out....

With my Gemtech Outback 2, I can soak it or send it back...but I don't have to waste oddles of time worrying about how many rounds down range before I have to stop to clean...rather spend more time shooting vs cleaning...and from the way it might be....there will be a lot of cleaning time vs actual shooting time.
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I have a shooting buddy that has a Gemtech Outback II with over 10K rounds of ammo through it and despite the fact that it feels like it weighs four pounds it's still quiet. He will send it to Gemtech for the "D" conversion when it finally stops being quiet.

My point it that too many guys worry about buying a take apart can, but most guys will not shoot them enough to worry about taking it apart.
 
Buying a non user serviceable. 22 can makes absolutely no sense to me.

Cleaning is part shooting. It's no more difficult to clean your can after a day at the range than cleaning your guns.

You would never buy a gun you couldn't clean, would you?
 
I don't really understand buying a non-user serviceable can either, especially for a caliber as dirty as .22
 
dead-bird said:
Buying a non user serviceable. 22 can makes absolutely no sense to me.

Cleaning is part shooting. It's no more difficult to clean your can after a day at the range than cleaning your guns.

You would never buy a gun you couldn't clean, would you?
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i think your missing the point that has been made about sealed 22 cans. those who advocate for them do not say anything about not having to clean them, just the method used. they prefer the dip and feel it can go more rounds between cleaning because they don't have to stop shooting at a certain round count just to make it easier for them to break the can apart. I think thats a key point they make.... most people shooting take-apart 22 cans stop shooting a a certain point NOT because the can is so dirty that they risk a baffle strike, its because going further with their round count before cleaning makes it THAT much harder to disassemble. How many MORE rounds could you shoot a can that you didn't have to worry about breaking apart? Some have advocated that its many more rounds and they prefer that.

i don't own a dedicated 22 can, yet, but i see both sides of the preferences.
 
rlavaty said:
This.

I love the baffle conversion John did. Almost no FRP and really quiet. I didn't have to wait another 7 months and got it fixed for about the price of another stamp. I thought I had the world's most expensive Mite, maybe we should start a club LOL
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There are a few of us on here. His core makes for a very good .22 can and I wouldn't trade it for anything out there. It does feel good knowing we are not alone in buying a crappy suppressor....at least we found a good solution!
 
Charger442 said:
i think your missing the point that has been made about sealed 22 cans. those who advocate for them do not say anything about not having to clean them, just the method used. they prefer the dip and feel it can go more rounds between cleaning because they don't have to stop shooting at a certain round count just to make it easier for them to break the can apart. I think thats a key point they make.... most people shooting take-apart 22 cans stop shooting a a certain point NOT because the can is so dirty that they risk a baffle strike, its because going further with their round count before cleaning makes it THAT much harder to disassemble. How many MORE rounds could you shoot a can that you didn't have to worry about breaking apart? Some have advocated that its many more rounds and they prefer that.

i don't own a dedicated 22 can, yet, but i see both sides of the preferences.
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I hear the folks with their sealed cans. I understand the arguments. I just don't agree. The sealed .22 can is a relic that has seen it's best days.

The Dip. Worst possible option for cleaning. I doubt everyone using it is disposing of it properly and it's really, REALLY bad stuff.

I'd rather take mine apart.
 
I sell Huntertown Arms, YHM, Gemtech, AAC, etc and out if the 22 cans the HTA has the best sound and is quiter then the higher priced cans from the others. In fact I have 3 HTA Guardians waiting on approval. Not to mention 3 HTA Kestrel 556's waiting on form 4 approval.
 
Hope you guys are right about the HTA Guardian, I have one in NFA prison right now. Should have the stamp in July.
 
Get the best can you can afford, you will have it a long time. I Loooove my SS Sparrow. I'm now looking to get a Thunder Beast Arms 22L-1 for a dedicated 17 hmr.
 
Fungun said:
Get the best can you can afford, you will have it a long time. I Loooove my SS Sparrow. I'm now looking to get a Thunder Beast Arms 22L-1 for a dedicated 17 hmr.
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just placed an order for a TBAC 22L-1 this week. think im going to go ahead and purchase the rifle it will spend the most time on this week as well.
 
Charger442 said:
just placed an order for a TBAC 22L-1 this week. think im going to go ahead and purchase the rifle it will spend the most time on this week as well.
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What rifle? I'm planing on having my 77/17 re-barreled with a SS 18.5" deep fluted barrel by Clark Custom Gun's.
 
I think the point has been missed. If I were you, I'd stay with the cheap can and buy a new one when it was full or incurred a baffle strike. You can buy four cheap cans for what our tax stamp would cost and would have to shoot a boat load every day to destroy all four before we are granted permission to take ours home for the first round. If there were not a tax stamp and wait, the user serviceable cns would not be such a big deal here either. In fact, they once weren't.
 
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dead-bird said:
Buying a non user serviceable. 22 can makes absolutely no sense to me.

Cleaning is part shooting. It's no more difficult to clean your can after a day at the range than cleaning your guns.

You would never buy a gun you couldn't clean, would you?
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as long as it went bang and hit where I aimed ,,, : Oh Hell Yes !!!!!! :) (I had to say it :)
 
In the 22lr suppressor market there is not a big difference between cheap and "high end" suppressor's price.I never use a cheap one but have a brugger thomet HP 22 which work fine a
 
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