Do any of you use the aftermarket bearing plates under the shell plate on a 650? Does it keep powder from spilling out of the case as the case moves to the next station?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
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I cut a coil off the spring under the index ball. That helps quite a bit.
The key is to resize/deprime/trim a huge batch first. I run the 1050's with the dillon trimmer. Works awesome!
Next, tumble in stainless to clean the cases, including the primer pockets!
Then, pull the resize/decap die out of the machine. It will run MUCH smoother and you won't have powder all over the place. I found that this is much faster. The machine will cycle awesome, especially with the stainless tumbled brass. I can pump out 1000 + rounds using this method in an hour, no problem.
Good Luck!
-BT
Next, tumble in stainless to clean the cases, including the primer pockets!
Then, pull the resize/decap die out of the machine. It will run MUCH smoother and you won't have powder all over the place. I found that this is much faster. The machine will cycle awesome, especially with the stainless tumbled brass. I can pump out 1000 + rounds using this method in an hour, no problem.
Good Luck!
-BT
I size & prime my .223 before charging, seating & crimping on the 650. After the powder drops into the case, is rotates to the seating station. as it rotates to that station, the shell plate jerks and spills powder out. I have been putting my finger on the case to prevent this, but was hoping this bearing would eliminate the need to do so.
Thank you.
I use the bearing that goes on top of the shell plate. Works quite well for taking the snap out of it.
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Just to clarify, pull the sizing die out of the machine BEFORE you start to charge and seat bullets. I understand you have a progressive press. I am familiar with how they function. If you are spilling powder WITHOUT running the cases through the sizing die, (especially when loading the 223 cartridge), the machine is binding up on something.
How many grains? What powder?
It just flips a couple of granules of powder out. 25.6 gr. of Benchmark. The press is brand new out of the box.
Yes, that is correct.
You don't get it. It has nothing to do with sizing. It is the indexing the shell plate to the next station, this happens AFTER the ram has dropped below any sizing, powder dropping, seating or crimping.
I have the same problem when loading 9mm. I just "catch" the round just before it stops at the next station with the bullet in my fingers. It seems I can't pick bullets as fast as I can pull the handle, every now and again.
I tried with minimal success with different materials under the stripper bolt to slow the indexing, but you have to have the preload on the material perfect.
I am interested in this bearing some of you guys are talking about though. Haven't seen it.
Interesting. Def. not over charging the cases.
I suppose try modifying the spring, as others mentioned. Ive never done this. Let us know how it turns out.
Thanks for the link.
Call Dillon and ship it back. Sounds like a lemon. My shell plate indexes just fine. I was simply suggesting that the expander on the decap pin was part of the problem.
I would just go ahead and give the bearing a try, they are about ten bucks shipped to your door. It will smooth out the movement of the shell plate and stop powder from bouncing out of your case.
You can check it out here
http://www.hitfactorshooting.com/products/products.html
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http://www.hitfactorshooting.com/products/products.html
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Yes, a bearing under the bolthead/on top of the shell plate. Greatly reduces powder spill in small cases (9mm). It takes a bit of tweaking though, not enough tension = spill, too much tension = locked up shellholder.
I ordered it. I will let y'all know how it works. Thanks for the input.
Check out this page.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/3...0B_and_XL650s___Updated_1_25_2012.html&page=1
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/3...0B_and_XL650s___Updated_1_25_2012.html&page=1
The "snapping into position" can be alleviated by just snugging up the center bolt holding the shell plate. Set it so there is a very, very, slight drag. You have to adjust, tighten lock screw, then check, several times. An added benefit is that the shell plate doesn't wobble up/down and OAL's can be far more consistent.
Not a lemon, just needs some adjustment.
I've been using the bearing on top of the shellplate/under the bolt for years and it stopped all of the problems with powder spilling when indexing. It takes a little fine tuning with the tension on the bolt but once you figure it out you are golden.
