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700 SPS Tactical AAC-SD

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Any info on the accuracy of this rifle would be appreciated. Instead of getting a more target based rifle I have been considering getting a more compact rifle and suppressor.

I typically only shoot 600 yards or less and do not shoot in competitions so I feel like I would get more enjoyment out of a .308 rifle and suppressor and have been looking into this rifle but can't seem to find much talk about it online.

I am guessing the factory stock needs replaced but the options that the 700 provides just seems to keep drawing me in no matter how much I begin to look at Savages and other rifles. I've seen some excellent accuracy reports from the 700 Tactical but some poor ones as well. Is the poor accuracy just a result of bad shooter/bipod on cheap factory stock?
 
I just shot a match yesterday with mine, took 3rd out of 19 - all very good shooters. Targets were 10-18" from 426yrds to 903yrds. I hit 4 of 5 of the most distant targets that went from 800 -903yrds.

I'd say the gun can be plenty accurate if you find the right load. I think the poor accuracy you are hearing of has a little bit to do with everything....ammo just isn't perfect for the gun, the cheap factory stocks and, possibly, the shooter.


Barreled action is all factory except for the Badger bolt knob.

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My cheap ADL Varmint 308 is capable of 1/4 MOA as long as I take the time and work the loads for it. These rifles are only as accurate as what you feed it and the time you want to put in to it...
 
Very nice to hear. I reload so would be able to develop a load specifically for the rifle. I don't think I need a rifle like the Savage LRP I've been looking at or a .260 for the limited distances I normally shoot. I have been speaking with a local class 3 dealer about a suppressor and am probably going check with them on ordering this rifle and getting the paperwork started on the suppressor.
 
Getting rid of the factory stock is a must IMO if you want good, consistent accuracy from this model. I dropped mine into a KRG W3 chassis and saw a huge improvement in the accuracy and consistency.

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Love the Whiskey 3 chassis. I've been driving myself crazy trying to decide what rifle to get so the options for what to buy for a Rem 700 will really have my head spinning.

I'll probably buy used stocks and sell and change around stocks for a while to settle on something I'm so indecisive.
 
ridenrunwv said:
Love the Whiskey 3 chassis. I've been driving myself crazy trying to decide what rifle to get so the options for what to buy for a Rem 700 will really have my head spinning.

I'll probably buy used stocks and sell and change around stocks for a while to settle on something I'm so indecisive.
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If you want a nice traditional stock look at Manners....go with the mini-chassis, it will save you from having to bed and if you want, you could use the stock for other guns later. DBM mini-chassis...Pricey...but worth it.
 
So if I end up wanting to build a rifle with a barreled action from Surgeon or someone can I use the same chassis that I purchase for the 700? This is something that I've been thinking would be a huge plus to the 700. Could spread out the cost of a full custom build by buying just the chassis first.
 
ridenrunwv said:
So if I end up wanting to build a rifle with a barreled action from Surgeon or someone can I use the same chassis that I purchase for the 700? This is something that I've been thinking would be a huge plus to the 700. Could spread out the cost of a full custom build by buying just the chassis first.
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Yes, for the most part. Some chassis may require a bit of modification but if you tell the builder which one you have and the action is built on the 700 SA footprint, it should be a drop in.
 
Bought a 700 AAC-SD today. Between reading problems with the Savage LRP and such great success with the 700 AAC-SD I went with the 700. Thanks for all your replies to my original post.
 
ridenrunwv said:
Bought a 700 AAC-SD today. Between reading problems with the Savage LRP and such great success with the 700 AAC-SD I went with the 700. Thanks for all your replies to my original post.
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you will be happy with your purchase. Any idea on what you're going to do for optics?
 
I bought a 700 AAC SD in October and put a Vortex Viper PST 4-16x FFP scope on it. It shot very well out of the box...sub MOA at 100 yds. Was consistently hitting steal at 400-600 yds but knew I wanted to replace the stock. Ended up with a McMillan M40 stock that I am very pleased with. Decided it needed a custom paint job so I went with Duracoat flat dark earth and coyote brown. Next thing is a tactical bolt knob.

I talked my girlfriend into getting me a reloading press for Christmas so it's not so expensive to shoot. This rifle has made me fall in love with shooting all over again.
 

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I just shot a match yesterday with mine, took 3rd out of 19 - all very good shooters. Targets were 10-18" from 426yrds to 903yrds. I hit 4 of 5 of the most distant targets that went from 800 -903yrds.

I'd say the gun can be plenty accurate if you find the right load. I think the poor accuracy you are hearing of has a little bit to do with everything....ammo just isn't perfect for the gun, the cheap factory stocks and, possibly, the shooter.


Barreled action is all factory except for the Badger bolt knob.

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The shorter range targets were harder and that wind was killer for me!! Good job doing that well with the ol' 308.
 
InkedIan said:
The shorter range targets were harder and that wind was killer for me!! Good job doing that well with the ol' 308.
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Thanks Ian - the short range targets gave me the most trouble too. Had a lot to do with the wind and the sun.

If you plan on shooting more with us, join the "Peacemaker Precision" group that I started here on the Hide.

You're avatar photo looks familiar...well...at least the land does. Kinda looks like Stage 2. ;)
 
thrusty said:
Thanks Ian - the short range targets gave me the most trouble too. Had a lot to do with the wind and the sun.

If you plan on shooting more with us, join the "Peacemaker Precision" group that I started here on the Hide.

You're avatar photo looks familiar...well...at least the land does. Kinda looks like Stage 2. ;)
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That was from the Oct match. I shot an AR308 at that one. Shot the same score for both matches which I thought was kind of funny and sad at the same time being that I brought a purpose built rifle to the last match...




Sorry to OP for getting off subject.
 
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I bought one for the same reason you did, then looked into a chassis/stock and removable mag system... after adding everything up it was cheaper just to buy one of the ready made HS Precision guns that already had the threaded barrel, stock with removable mag etc. so I sold it and bought a factory model. Sucks that its more money up front, but its cheaper than doing it yourself if you plan on doing it quickly. If this is going to be a project over time, that gun was definitely awesome out of the box for what it was. I just read too much complaining about the hogue stock but didnt want to have to dump $150 to get the barrel threaded on the 700P or LTR.
For the price, its unbeatable, but look into what you want to do before you buy it, there might be other less expensive options.
 
I already bought the AAC-SD today. I really have my heart set on an Accuracy International or some other chassis and suppressor later down the road so I'll upgrade as I get the funds. I'm still in my last semester of college so money is tight right now but I just wanted to go ahead and get a new rifle now that I can build on later.
 
I paid 700. Not much more than the tactical. Even if he doesn't plan to suppress or thread on a muzzle break the 1/10 twist would be worth it to me.
 
This started life as a 700 AAC-SD. Barrelled action is still factory.

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For factory ammo, mine REALLY likes the 168gr A-MAX Match, 5 shots into a nickel at 100 yards. I've just started relaoding for it. 175 SMKs do well, and I have a pile of Berger 185 Hybrids on the way to work up, as well.

You'll want to replace the stock AND the trigger. The X-mark pro trigger in these is horrible. Mine was treated to a Jewell, love it.
 
One thing to consider...these and other similar rifles are "starter rifles" as they come out of the box. Usually its new shooters that buy starter rifles. New shooters are just that, and therefore not the most skilled when they are getting started.
 
Travis, my sps saw many stocks over the years. Here's a few.

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Current for hunting.
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To take a surgeon action and drop it into a AICS it needs to have a relief cut made in the bolt cut out. Like this. You can order the chassis like this from mile high shooting.

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As far as bedding your rifle, we can take care of that, it's not difficult. We have tools that you can use until you are able to afford your own.

tylerw02 said:
One thing to consider...these and other similar rifles are "starter rifles" as they come out of the box. Usually its new shooters that buy starter rifles. New shooters are just that, and therefore not the most skilled when they are getting started.
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Don't worry Tyler he'll be taken under my wing and fully corrupted...I mean ah...
 
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http://www.snipershide.com/shooting...404-weaver-vs-picatinny-help.html#post2413392

I posted this question in the optics question and am looking for some advice. I know it's probably a dumb question but I'm new to this and just trying to make sure I get it right the first time. Ordered a Weaver 20 MOA multi-slot base and it says it works with Picitanny or Weaver rings. I don't know which type of rings to buy.
 
boone said:
As far as bedding your rifle, we can take care of that, it's not difficult. We have tools that you can use until you are able to afford your own.





Don't worry Tyler he'll be taken under my wing and fully corrupted...I mean ah...
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I just noticed that part of your post. I really appreciate you helping me get started.
 
I got my 700 SPS Tactical AAC-SD a few months ago and it still sits in the factory hogue stock. I plan on getting a rock solid stock this summer, but for now i am running with the factory stock and a vortex pst 6-24. I use Hornadys amax 168gr, and at 400 yards i can hit a 5x8 piece of steel no problem. I don't have enough space to take it out any further than that...from what i can tell it is a pretty damn accurate rifle and i am not the most experienced shooter either...It is a fun little rifle and i love having the 20" barrel
 
boone said:
Don't worry Tyler he'll be taken under my wing and fully corrupted...I mean ah...
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A kind man you are, Boone. Nothing at all wrong with the AAC-SD. Mine shoots pretty well for what they are. Just make sure you corrupt him with that AI AE MK-III of yours.
 
For what it's worth my SPS is still in the Hogue stock although I did trim the barrel channel out some. I have one of the later generation Millett scopes on it with Millett twist in rings and bases. My SPS has the first X-mark trigger with no external adjustment. Out of the box it shoots sub 1/2" MOA at 100. Having had limited time and facilities I have not tried my pet 308 load in it, but I am positive of the results.
 
Awesome. I hope mine shoots like that also. Can't wait to get a base and rings so I can take it out. I've already been loading different loads up to test out.
 
So are these rifles really hit or miss or what? I don't think LoneWolfUSMC is a bad shot, and he could barely get MOA after replacing the stock with a B&C and using black hills match ammo. Other people here say the rifle shoots 1/2 MOA all day. It seems like they might be extremely ammo sensitive.

I'm currently on the fence between one of these, a 20" 5r or possibly a Tikka T3. Seems like the extra 400 bucks for the 5r gets you a useful stock and a rifle that shoots a much wider variety of ammo well.
 
Seeing some of the bad reports is what really had me questioning this rifle but seem to see more good than bad. Was also considering the Savage LRP and same story with it though. The good ones seem to shoot amazing but you still hear about plenty with problems.
 
Randoman5 said:
So are these rifles really hit or miss or what? I don't think LoneWolfUSMC is a bad shot, and he could barely get MOA after replacing the stock with a B&C and using black hills match ammo. Other people here say the rifle shoots 1/2 MOA all day. It seems like they might be extremely ammo sensitive.
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I'll have to go watch the video you mentioned. I dont doubt LWUSMC'S test but I'm curious to see if anything was done to the B&C stock. I know that I and others have dropped this same action in a chassis and had no issues.
 
Mine shoots great with Fed GMM or handloads. I am running 175 gr SMK with Lapua brass, CCI BR-2, and Varget at 2.815".
 
I have found that 222 and 308 guns are probably the least picky calibers to shoot. With adverse results I almost always question manufacturing tolerances on the lesser expensive guns. Savage used to be the worst offender, so much so when I was in the gun biz I wouldn't even special order one for even my best customers. I have heard Remington has been having its issues lately. I would start out like I did and trim the excess rubber out of the barrel channel and adjust your trigger as light as is safe for your uses. When ypu put the action back in tighten the screws according to best practices. The one thing that affects accuracy adversely, especially in heavy barrels, is a bad crown which can often be corrected without spending a lot of money. In fact you may be able to do it yourself with tools from Brownells. Thisis also a common malady with 22 rimfires.
As far as reloads are concerned I have found most any suitable powder coupled with good components (match bullets, benchrest primers, and good quality cases) will shoot better than the shooter.
 
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