Suppressors Direct thread 30cal can on AR15?

[BoilerUP]

After being off and on again about getting a 30cal suppressor, I'm back on again.

I'm looking at 30cal direct thread suppressors now, and leaning toward titanium due to weight. Considering TBAC 30P1, SAS Arbiter & Reaper, YHM Ti Phantom.

If I get a 30cal can, I'd also want to run it on my 18" precision AR in addition to my 223AI and 260 bolt guns.

Any issues running a 1/2-28 to 5/8-24 thread adapter on a titanium can? I figure a TOMB setup would be easier, but DT is less expensive. Also, I seriously doubt the can would ever see a mag dump from the AR, probably 1 shot/second about as fast as I shoot (and typically, much slower).

 

[j-huskey]

While seemingly not connected to your question, it is. AAC makes a general purpose 30 Cal can (which i. own but can't remember the model)that is for 223, 300 blackout, and 308, and which uses their adaptor which is available in both thread pitches. So industry wise, multi purpose cans are a done deal. Also Alexander arms Grendel barrels require a 9/16 to 5/8 adaptor which they and others sell. So again industry wise, adaptors are another done deal. Hooper ordinance sells a 30 Cal can with 5/8 threads and it comes with a 1/2 to 5/8 adaptor and it works perfectly (something else I own).
Get the 308 can and a quality 1/2 to 5/8 adaptor and don't look back. Hoopers can is titanium.I shoot it on 308, 300 blackout, 6.5 grendal, and 223. No problems.

 

[ORD]

The only thing I will add to the above is to be cautious about which Ti can you select (if you go that route at all) if you will be using it for any sort of "sustained" fire on a semi-auto as some of the Ti cans are NOT rated to handle the abuse. The Ti cans are great for bolt gun use and on semis where you aren't doing mag dumps, f/a fire, etc., but even some of the best grades of Ti out there won't handle the heat which can build up in a hurry, even shooting "1 shot/second" as you stated above, if you'll be shooting at that rate for long.

 

[bengineer]

Ti cans are mostly good to about 600 degrees F. That is hotter than you will probably ever get it. Talk with the guys at TBAC about it if you are concerned.

Don't worry about using a thread adapter. Just make sure it is straight/concentric. Even if you are shooting 22 cal bullets through it, you want the can to be mounted straight. Install the can and take a look before you shoot.

 

[3DHUSKER]

I use a thread adapter on one of my AR's with a TBAC 30p-1 when I am yote hunting that way when I decide to use another larger gun for further out I just swap the can over to that rifle. It is my go to can when I want to hit something on the first shot way out there.

 

[peaceatwar]

I was faced with this decision myself and I went with a 30-P1. Got it from one of the vendors here on the hide for a very reasonable price. Better than anything I could find anywhere. I wanted it a few months sooner than rangerwalkers group buy so I did pay more than that.

 

[Douglas-001]

I got a Tornado Technologies adapter for a Phantom that can go on my Colt 6920. Yet to fire it, but it all lines up nice and tight. Thanks again to Jon at 419 firearms, he helped me find this handy little item as I'm new to this NFA game. I had no idea titanium was sensitive to extreme heat. Good thing I went with the stainless. Good luck and good shooting!

Doug

 

[mtrmn]

I bought the YHM 7.62 Ti QD. The adapters can be found in all kind of different threads. Install the adapter (Which is a flash suppressor or a brake) once and never mess with it again. This will reduce the risk of messing up the barrel threads. QD is much better for swapping between several guns.

I use mine on 6 different AR-types. POI shift is repeatable and predictable on each gun. POI shift with the light Ti model is no more than 3" at 100 yds on any of the guns, and one of them has NO noticeable POI shift.

Many say QD's are not as accuracy-friendly as a thread-on, but I can't shoot the difference. I am NOT a "sniper" or anywhere near a benchrest quality shooter so YMMV.

The YHM is a very simple and robust design, most descriptions I've seen use the term "built like a tank" in reference to them. They are rated for limited full auto fire, and I will never come close to heating it up enough to do any damage unless I go completely insane someday and decide to just do endless mag-dumps. The only downside I see for you is that the QD adapters would be pretty dam ugly on your bolt guns without the suppressor attached.

I'm sure you get what you pay for, but I made the YHM my first NFA purchase because it was the only titanium 30 cal can in my price range that I could find. I still think I made the right choice 2 yrs later.

 

[cruzie27]

The only downside I see for you is that the QD adapters would be pretty dam ugly on your bolt guns without the suppressor attached.

I had the Surefire brake/adaptor for the FA762SS suppressor mounted on my .300 Win Mag for a few years before I finally purchased the can for it,. Personally I think it looked pretty damn good like that.

 

[Surgeon_Shooter]

I was iffy about the adapters so I threaded my ar barrels behind the 1/2x28 threads to 5/8x24 and made a protector for it.turned out very nice and works like a champ!

 

[3DHUSKER]

I was iffy about the adapters so I threaded my ar barrels behind the 1/2x28 threads to 5/8x24 and made a protector for it.turned out very nice and works like a champ!

Intresting, how about a picture?

 

[Surgeon_Shooter]

Intresting, how about a picture?

Boom

Works like a champ! The one on the left was kinda a lazy project. I already had that thread protector. The other one we made a stainless thread protector from another stainless barrel laying around.

Jay

 

[3DHUSKER]

That looks neat Jay... Any problems at all with it on the can.

 

[Sixtsix]

That is interesting. Are there any issues with putting the muzzle further in the suppressor?

 

[charger23]

Boom

Works like a champ! The one on the left was kinda a lazy project. I already had that thread protector. The other one we made a stainless thread protector from another stainless barrel laying around.

Jay

Wow. Good idea. Would never thought of that nor have I seen or heard of that before. Kudos. No issues running that setup??

 

[varmint slayer]

Depending on how far the extra barrel sticks into the suppressor, I'm guessing a guy could be past or damn close to being past the blast baffle and could possibly wear the baffles out prematurely. I'm no expert but just spitballing.

 

[Surgeon_Shooter]

Thanks guys! I had to trim a few thousandths off the barrel on both of them for it to work. It sits off the first baffle just a hair. Basically all of the blast chamber is surpassed and not being used. But in my case I have a inconel baffled AAC Cyclone .30 can. It is rated for 7.62 NATO so the little punk 5.56 isn't hurting a thing. Surprisingly it is very quiet!

 

[mtrmn]

Do the smaller threads up front get caked up with carbon when running suppressor?

 

[Surgeon_Shooter]

Do the smaller threads up front get caked up with carbon when running suppressor?

Some yes but not that bad. A wire brush will clean em up nice. I've shot a few hundred at a time and didnt even bother cleaning the because it wasn't much on em.

 

[piglatinhater]

I'd vote YHM

 

[Hooper]

30 cal direct thread suppressor

The myths about Titanium are abundant.

If there should ever be a problem, our suppressors carry a lifetime warranty. Abuse will require a rebuild fee which is 1/3 the cost of a new retail suppressor.
Sustained machine gun fire is what kills a suppressor.
Fire strings that are commonly seen in these tactical matches or trying to shoot multiple Hogs where an entire mag is dumped from an AR15 semi auto, will not hurt a Titanium suppressor.

I would much rather have a 10 oz. 6.5" Titanium suppressor vs. a full auto rated 19-20 oz. suppressor.

On the battle field, go with the full auto rated suppressor as it may see sustained full auto fire when lives are @ risk. However on a bolt gun, go Titanium anytime.

 

[50calibercruiser]

I wish I had a TI can so I tell you how much I would most likely love it. That being said, I do love my YHM Phantom QD SS. The repeatability is outstanding. Going from can off to can on I have an exact 2 moa poi up shift every single time. I've done the shoot 5 times removing and reattaching the can between each shot test and experienced zero poi shift.