Collet or Kinetic puller?

[rjacobs]

Working on getting my reloading stuff setup. Have a whole setup over at my old mans house. I need a bullet puller for my house. Have always used a kinetic hammer over at his place. Thinking I want a collet puller for at my house. I will only be loading .223, .308 and 300 Blackout at my house so I THINK the collet will work better than the kinetic. I probably should just break down and buy both, but since I wont be loading pistol rounds, I dont know how much I would use a kinetic.

What say you all?

Then, if collet, which collet?

RCBS
Hornady
Forster Universal(I have the Forster Coax press so the Universal is the one that will work for me).

 

[Cacciatore]

I say go collet. Much easier to do bulk (15+ rounds) pulling that way.

 

[ChrisGarrett]

I have both and so should you!

Kinetics are easier to use and cheaper, if you're not doing say more than a dozen at a stretch.

My Hornady collet puller with three extra collets will be better suited for larger batches and my 338LM carts, which don't fit in my Midway kinetic puller. You do have to set it up, grab the right collet and install/remove it from the press/toolhead, so it's definitely slower and more money, but I tried pulling some steel core Norinco x39 bullets the other night and the kinetic pullet wasn't making a dent on the tar sealed projectiles, so out came the Hornady and five minutes later, I had two nice looking and unmangled steel core bullets to cut open!

Chris

 

[Dan Newberry]

Collet, with bushings for the main calibers you use...

And as Chris said above, have a kinetic too (they're cheap)... and that way, you'll have something to pull bullets on the odd calibers you may not have a collet for yet...

Dan

 

[Steel-r]

I had trouble getting lighter bullets out (read: 50gr .223) with the kinetic. I bought a collet puller & use it now.

I wish the Hornady cam lock had been out when I was shopping, seems like it would be faster than the RCBS screw down system I have.

 

[leadbullet]

use kinetic for heavy pistol loads and collet for light rifle bullets, try pulling a 55 gr out of a 223 case with the hammer method and you'll know what I mean.

 

[bobke]

Have both collet and kinetic, both have specific uses, but if a choice of but one, collet-certain. The kinetic is okay for bumping out short OAL loads in die setup or pulling the occasional bullet, but the collet assures better care of the bullet and reuse of same.

 

[rjacobs]

sounds like collet is the way to go then. looking at the hornady cam lock I don't think it will work in the forster coax due to the tightening lever. I think I will go with the forster universal unless there is a compelling reason to go with the rcbs or if somebody can show that the hornady will work in the forster coax.

 

[SporterII]

Have both collet and kinetic, both have specific uses, but if a choice of but one, collet-certain. The kinetic is okay for bumping out short OAL loads in die setup or pulling the occasional bullet, but the kinetic assures better care of the bullet and reuse of same.

Did I read that correctly?

 

[Aimsmall55]

No mess... Collet. Easier... Collet. Check if your loads are compressed... Collet... Get where I'm leaning

 

[bobke]

Sporter-
Yes you did-fixed it. Collet for certain. Thanks. Brain going right, fingers left.

 

[rjacobs]

Did I read that correctly?

that's what I was thinking... or maybe he really is a kinetic fan lol

 

[Aimsmall55]

Have both collet and kinetic, both have specific uses, but if a choice of but one, collet-certain. The kinetic is okay for bumping out short OAL loads in die setup or pulling the occasional bullet, but the kinetic assures better care of the bullet and reuse of same.

I believe you have that little bit ass backwards. Lets see... Slowly pulling with as little tension as possible on the bullet. Or beating the shit out of a cut out 2x4. Hummm

 

[bobke]

Easy, boys....busted out 50 pushups for penance, made my correction. Collet, certain, for rifle rounds. Next point.

 

[Kinsman]

I find that I must have both. The collet for longer, jacketed bullets, and the kinetic for cast and short jacketed bullets, as in handgun loads.
If I only could have one, it would be the kinetic puller.

 

[wilecoyote]

kinetic, because using the puller is like using two stones, and not a kleenex, to blow your nose

 

[armorpl8chikn]

Kenetic....Dewey Cox is using one here at 2:26:
[video=youtube;JaKeYNS0-DI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaKeYNS0-DI[/video]

 

[ChrisGarrett]

If you're doing a few rounds and you're not crimping the shit out of them, the kinetic pullers work fine. If you're pulling bullets that are crimped, or are sealed in with sealant, or you're doing say a box of 50, then the collets work better, if you're not pinching the crap out of them after adjusting the collet.

Chris

 

[BuzzBoss915]

I have the RCBS collet puller, works well, never envisioned a need for the kinetic, I have 6 or 7 calibers, all rifle. If you are pulling pistol calibers, SUM TING WONG. BB

PS Someone has finally coined a useful word for message boards.

"askhole"-Definition: One who asks questions about a subject, of those with vast knowledge, and then does what he wants anyway."

 

[18Echo]

Hornady Collet puller. Just yesterday I loaded up 20 rounds of .338-06 and realized after I loaded the 15th one that I was using the .30 comparator instead of the .33 to measure ogive length. Instead of dumping all my powder with a kinetic puller I used the collet puller and didn't have to repowder my rounds.

 

[Bluesop7]

I have both and time and time again I reach for the collet puller even if I'm just pulling one. Something about the hammer just makes me nervous.

 

[armorpl8chikn]

The Dewey Cox kenetic reference was a joke...of course. Some of you know I am a clown or an asshole and sometimes both.
As others have pointed out kenetic is fine unless you have a project like pulling down 500- .30 M2 ball rounds. For something like that you better have a collet unless you want to look like a fiddler crab.
A kenetic works better if you hit it against a solid piece of steel about 20lb+ weight, backside of many bench vises are perfect. Trust me it won't break.

"askhole" is not mine, I have trademark permission from its owner. Though he is a member, he is a bit shy about such things. I however am not.

 

[Nickmz]

Collet is the way to go even if for only one. I'm biased if you can't tell. Not a fan of hammering loaded rounds.

 

[rjacobs]

If you have a COAX you HAVE TO use the Universal Forster or buy the special locking ring. Other wise they just twist and twist due to the Coax floating design.

Good to know.

Although I am reading a few sites that say the Hornady Cam Lock puller will work on the Forster you just have to mess with the direction of the lever to make sure it clears the Coax handle depending on if you are doing long rounds or short rounds. I have read to much good about the Hornady to not get it. If it dont work, it'll go back to Brownells.