Assuming "Man of Steel" does very well. It wasn't that long ago that Warner Bros and DC were hoping "Green Lantern" would spawn a major profitable franchise and help build the tie-ins the way Marvel has, but that painfully fizzled.
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Assuming "Man of Steel" does very well. It wasn't that long ago that Warner Bros and DC were hoping "Green Lantern" would spawn a major profitable franchise and help build the tie-ins the way Marvel has, but that painfully fizzled.
I think that had a lot to do with Van Wilder(what ever his name is) being cast as the Green Lantern, he's always been comedic relief, and a weak story/plot line.
And because they tried to compress the post-production schedule to half of what it should have been, opting to distribute the VFX work to more than a dozen studios instead of a few, the overall costs ballooned, people got screwed over and the giant gamble that was "Green Lantern" hit snake eyes.
Agreed. DC has arguably the best super hero lineup but can't seem to tie them together for anything.
I have wanted to see this since the first few trailers came out. However, the reviews from critics and Rotten Tomatoes have caught me by surprise. I will be going to see it, but I have lowered my expectations slightly.
Just returned from watching Man of Steel. They had a 7:00 showing here. It was an awesome movie, but will drive the fan-boys crazy. They changed enough stuff from the comics to send some comic fans over the edge. Personally, the changes didn't bother me too much. The effects were awesome and the actors were good. Henry Cavill does a very good job as superman. I'm going to try to catch it on IMAX tomorrow if I get done with cases in time.
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The movie was excellent. I could have done without the part saying that the "S" stands for "hope" on krypton. I guess that's why their civilization failed.
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I enjoyed it. Decent movie overall.
Enjoyable movie. It definitely worked as a one and done movie or as part of a series. I thought it was good enough to warrant a sequel.
I spent most of 2012 dealing with the Black Zero, both inside and out. And one of the really crazy things we had to deal with were CG costumes for some of the characters, especially Zod. I'm not sure if they weren't done designing them, but either way the vast majority of shots where he and others are wearing armor on Krypton were shot with them in grey leotards with tracking markers and our guys tracked and animated the armor and suits around their bodies.
Caught it last evening; overall, an outstanding production. But the story left my mind spinning. No great loss there, my mind spins regularly. If I had to criticize, I'd suggest that the fighting was drawn out excessively, and the collateral wreckage was over the top. The editing could have cut out 15-20 minutes of that and been better for it. That's an opinion, and I recognize it goes against the modern trend. The good new is, I'm still the same old Neanderthal I always was...
Effects were awesome, cast was outstanding, but the storyline seemed a bit. . . disjointed to me. Like they tried to cram so much into that 2hr. window that they couldn't really develop the characters or the plot as fully as they should have. I realize its only a superhero movie, but I love the Dark Knight trilogy so much because they took their time and wove a legend with all the care it deserves.
I know that some might have complained that it would have been boring or slow, but I can't help but think it would have been better to dedicate this movie entirely to the origin story, and deal with the Gen. Zod showdown I its own film. That way, we could have seen the development of the characters over time, rather than simply have explosions thrown in our face.
I know that some might have complained that it would have been boring or slow, but I can't help but think it would have been better to dedicate this movie entirely to the origin story, and deal with the Gen. Zod showdown I its own film. That way, we could have seen the development of the characters over time, rather than simply have explosions thrown in our face.
Saw it last night, simply Outstanding. After reading critics reviews, I lowered my expectations. This movie delivered everything I thought it could. I did not read comic books, didn't watch Smallville, so if anything isn't "right", I don't know. The cast was excellent and the acting was top notch. Perhaps the "Colonel" was the "poorest" performance, but that was due more to script and keeping in a comic book theme I think. Visually, it was awesome. The 3 D was great and the colors were vivid to a T. The fight sequences were good, I really enjoyed the train engine and the "days without accident" sign.
By far, this is the best Superman movie. I like Bryan Singer, but Superman Returns sucked.
I highly recommend this movie, at the theater, and in 3D (if you can tolerate it). Totally worth the price of admission. A true comic book fan may have issues with it that I am not aware of.
By far, this is the best Superman movie. I like Bryan Singer, but Superman Returns sucked.
I highly recommend this movie, at the theater, and in 3D (if you can tolerate it). Totally worth the price of admission. A true comic book fan may have issues with it that I am not aware of.
About the 3D; sometimes it's cool (Avatar), sometimes it's a gratuitous distraction (Hansel & Gretel), sometimes it makes me downright queasy (insert your least favorite 3D title here).
But somehow, Hollywood seems bound and determined to sell us all on 3D; whether we like it or not. I can take it or leave it, and on balance, I'd probably rather leave it. I already wear glasses. I will be downright hanged before I buy a 3D monitor.
Take a hint, Hollywood; Betamax was not so long ago that we all forgot it happened. 3D was an annoying fad in the 50's, in the 60's, and it's just the same all over again now.
As for CGI effects, we get too much of that, too. A lot of it is great, and a lot of it is simply getting to be more and more doohickery, enough that it gets to be a distraction. There's a difference between doing something to advance the story, and doing something just because we all have to be shown that somebody knows how to do something that they think looks cool. There has come the time when I'm weighing whether I want to spend my money to be entertained, or to be dazzled beyond my imagination by gratuitous eye candy that's just not needed to tell the story. There's a market for that stuff, but not for my money.
Greg
But somehow, Hollywood seems bound and determined to sell us all on 3D; whether we like it or not. I can take it or leave it, and on balance, I'd probably rather leave it. I already wear glasses. I will be downright hanged before I buy a 3D monitor.
Take a hint, Hollywood; Betamax was not so long ago that we all forgot it happened. 3D was an annoying fad in the 50's, in the 60's, and it's just the same all over again now.
As for CGI effects, we get too much of that, too. A lot of it is great, and a lot of it is simply getting to be more and more doohickery, enough that it gets to be a distraction. There's a difference between doing something to advance the story, and doing something just because we all have to be shown that somebody knows how to do something that they think looks cool. There has come the time when I'm weighing whether I want to spend my money to be entertained, or to be dazzled beyond my imagination by gratuitous eye candy that's just not needed to tell the story. There's a market for that stuff, but not for my money.
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I'm 31 and feel the same as Greg. I hate the 3D movies.... They don't add anything and now I have to sit there and scratch my nose for 2 hours and of If itake the damn glasses off its like watching a Russell Crowe shaped caterpillar.
I know its been this way for a while but when I know 90% of a movie is filmed with dudes in leotards in front of green screens that's what I need up watching on the screen thinking to myself "how awkward was this fight scene for dudes in spandex?"
Comic book and other sci-fi or fantasy movies I expect a lot more of it I guess.
If I can find a place that's showing this one without 3d ill try and watch it later today. Had a buddy that said it was a good show.
I know its been this way for a while but when I know 90% of a movie is filmed with dudes in leotards in front of green screens that's what I need up watching on the screen thinking to myself "how awkward was this fight scene for dudes in spandex?"
Comic book and other sci-fi or fantasy movies I expect a lot more of it I guess.
If I can find a place that's showing this one without 3d ill try and watch it later today. Had a buddy that said it was a good show.
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It is also refreshing that the villian isn't really a "bad guy". I'm sure it is more simple in this fashion, but better than weak story lines we have scene in a great deal of movies.
I sympathize with the 3D angst. It makes our work that much harder because we can't use any of the tricks we normally use to get through a difficult shot. We are constantly problem solving and often a rather crude 2D fix is all you need to make a shot work, but as soon as you add a Z axis, that fix only works in one eye and not the other, so the shot is broken in stereo. And most 3D films these days are still created as 2D films, but converted into 3D in a post-process which can turn out ugly if not done properly. "Man of Steel" was 2D until about a year ago they decided to make it 3D, however as far as I know, the stereo conversion was done well by a competent company and with lots of support from the visual effects studios. That said, I opted out of our crew screenings because I didn't want to see it in 3D.
Enjoyed the movie today.
Saw it a second time last night. Liked it even better. Lot of stuff You don't catch the first time.
Saw it, it's one of the good ones worth seeing.
I enjoyed it, but I think my expectations might have been a bit high going in. I agree with greg, the fighting was drawn out too much. Plus it was the same thing just back and forth, kind of like hitting a man sized ping pong ball back and forth and mach 2. I'm no fan boy, so whatever changes they made didn't bother me. It's like I told my GF, you can get it accurate to the comics for 5% of the viewers to please them or you can make a good movie for the other 95%.
I would have liked to see more of Superman growing up/discovering his powers. But that's just my opinion. They did a good job of setting up the plot, my GF was a little confused at first as she didn't really know any back story but, they explained it well enough that she understood pretty quick what was going on.
I saw it in 3d. Wasn't anything really special about the 3d. The best 3d I've seen so far this year was the new Star Trek, it was just the right amount of subtle 3d that you got the full effect. Kind of hard to explain, like it was there but so you got the effect but they didn't purposely throw it in your face to show you it was there.
Overall, I enjoyed it, just not as much as I was hoping too, if that makes any kind of sense.
I would have liked to see more of Superman growing up/discovering his powers. But that's just my opinion. They did a good job of setting up the plot, my GF was a little confused at first as she didn't really know any back story but, they explained it well enough that she understood pretty quick what was going on.
I saw it in 3d. Wasn't anything really special about the 3d. The best 3d I've seen so far this year was the new Star Trek, it was just the right amount of subtle 3d that you got the full effect. Kind of hard to explain, like it was there but so you got the effect but they didn't purposely throw it in your face to show you it was there.
Overall, I enjoyed it, just not as much as I was hoping too, if that makes any kind of sense.
Man of Steal my heart and grab a little something else!
This movie was clever in its use of flashbacks to give us backstory without feeling constrained by linear story telling. The reveals were well timed, poignant and captivating...a little boy with a cape and his dog ICONIC Foreshadow and frankly not only brilliant but touching and awe inspiring when considering the context of the flash back.
I'm a picky critic and ain't gonna do any spoilers... but the second act dragged a bit for me (but they usually do) and the climax was like an hour long (which was difficult but exciting all at once)...and it was difficult because it had multiple climaxes and many of them were unsatisfying...
to make this movie insanely great... I needed more of a philosophical debate proven by Superman and his unwillingness to cause harm...he needed a reflection character to debate this with...and yet this is my only draw back of the film.
it was clever and imaginative. it was inspiring and delightful.
despite the multiple climaxes being less then satisfying to me (and that's cause I'm super picky critic)... I found it entertaining and awesome.
I was amazed to think of the star power... the casting was spot on and Crowe was awesome and cleverly reused in the movie...LOVED IT...
But seriously... that gorgeous man's chest out muscles Wolverine (and I LOVE ME SOME HUGH JACKMAN)
Great minor characters...everyone had an arc and I thought it was awesome...
If I had a cut at it...I'd add more scenes that governed the philosophical debate and less constant action...sorry Dogtown...me suspects you worked on some of those sequences...but they were too many, it was exhausting like King Kong by Peter jackson...kitchen sink type overkill...but not all in vain...stand alone they were awesome...but back to back I was tired and unsatisfied by some...
but the BUTTON at the end... showing a SMART AND AWARE LOUIS LANE...a girl my girls can look up to vs. laugh at with the former Margot Kidder's and even the beautiful Bosworth...
this Man of Steel still represented a savior character and the symbolism was overt but powerful...
A keeper... I can't wait for the directors cut that I think has the scenes in it I so desire for insanely great... I'm excited...
Dogtown.. Well done... well done... I don't often plan to buy movies on Blue Ray...but this one is worth it and I will totally buy it all along wishing I had a three d tv...
This movie was clever in its use of flashbacks to give us backstory without feeling constrained by linear story telling. The reveals were well timed, poignant and captivating...a little boy with a cape and his dog ICONIC Foreshadow and frankly not only brilliant but touching and awe inspiring when considering the context of the flash back.
I'm a picky critic and ain't gonna do any spoilers... but the second act dragged a bit for me (but they usually do) and the climax was like an hour long (which was difficult but exciting all at once)...and it was difficult because it had multiple climaxes and many of them were unsatisfying...
to make this movie insanely great... I needed more of a philosophical debate proven by Superman and his unwillingness to cause harm...he needed a reflection character to debate this with...and yet this is my only draw back of the film.
it was clever and imaginative. it was inspiring and delightful.
despite the multiple climaxes being less then satisfying to me (and that's cause I'm super picky critic)... I found it entertaining and awesome.
I was amazed to think of the star power... the casting was spot on and Crowe was awesome and cleverly reused in the movie...LOVED IT...
But seriously... that gorgeous man's chest out muscles Wolverine (and I LOVE ME SOME HUGH JACKMAN)
Great minor characters...everyone had an arc and I thought it was awesome...
If I had a cut at it...I'd add more scenes that governed the philosophical debate and less constant action...sorry Dogtown...me suspects you worked on some of those sequences...but they were too many, it was exhausting like King Kong by Peter jackson...kitchen sink type overkill...but not all in vain...stand alone they were awesome...but back to back I was tired and unsatisfied by some...
but the BUTTON at the end... showing a SMART AND AWARE LOUIS LANE...a girl my girls can look up to vs. laugh at with the former Margot Kidder's and even the beautiful Bosworth...
this Man of Steel still represented a savior character and the symbolism was overt but powerful...
A keeper... I can't wait for the directors cut that I think has the scenes in it I so desire for insanely great... I'm excited...
Dogtown.. Well done... well done... I don't often plan to buy movies on Blue Ray...but this one is worth it and I will totally buy it all along wishing I had a three d tv...
It's a great feeling to work on a really good film, which is actually less common for visual effects folks than you would think. If I go through the list of films I've worked on in my VFX career, the vast majority were really stupid (but often entertaining) popcorn films like "Armageddon", "The Day After Tomorrow", "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter", etc that I generally walk away from feeling proud of the work we did, but not the movie as a whole. Every now and then we get to work on a film that makes us feel really proud to be a part of the film as a complete entity, and surprisingly those are often the films where the VFX work plays a less obvious supporting role than a flashy in-your-face role. But sometimes the process of making the film is so painful, because of how poorly it's managed or because the director/producer is indecisive or crazy (like Michael Mann), that it's easy to completely lose your motivation, especially if you know it's not going to be a good film. Actors often talk about how they try to work on films that really challenge their craft or have roles they really like; the same goes for VFX artists. We love the opportunity to make amazing imagery, stuff that's challenging and visually stunning, yet we wish there were more "good" films that allowed us to do that and it's just not that simple I guess. Hopefully "Man of Steel" turns out to be one of those films. It was a difficult year long project for me, but that had more to do with my dislike of a supervisor's communication skills than the actual project itself.
Saw Man of Steel today... the script sucked, the film was good, liked what Zach Snyder did.
speaking of Armageddon, the end with young Clark, Cape & Dog with Dad looking on... straight out of Armageddon
He just needed to be holding a shuttle as he zoomed around the yard.
speaking of Armageddon, the end with young Clark, Cape & Dog with Dad looking on... straight out of Armageddon
He just needed to be holding a shuttle as he zoomed around the yard.Saw Man of Steel today... the script sucked, the film was good, liked what Zach Snyder did.
speaking of Armageddon, the end with young Clark, Cape & Dog with Dad looking on... straight out of Armageddon
I really loved the part with the dog and the George Reeves's Superman stance over him... but I liked it more because of his Earth Father looking on...and "seeing" what he was to become...as the mom revealed it to her son... that was so touching to me (but I only hope I'm remembering it correctly)
I loved the movie. Was glad to see them take it another direction as far as the story goes.
Ryan Reynolds played the Green Lantern, the movie was not very entertaining but it did have one shinning element.... Blake Lively! Good lord that girl is smoking hot!
Ryan Reynolds played the Green Lantern, the movie was not very entertaining but it did have one shinning element.... Blake Lively! Good lord that girl is smoking hot!
The only movie Ryan renolds has been in that I thought he did reasonably well in that didn't rely on his being a witty smart ass was Safe House. Other than that, he has type casted himself and used that funny guy approach in all his other flicks IMO.
One old fart to another...I completely concur. I realize hitting this guy in the face for the last 30 minutes has had no adverse effects so far, but I'ma gonna hit him again.
Going to see this weekend. A friend highly recommended it so my expectations are a little high now.
Watch Smokin Aces the guy can act, it's a shame he's stereotyped as a comedian.
Watch Smokin Aces the guy can act, it's a shame he's stereotyped as a comedian.
I've seen it and still stand by my previous statement, safe house is his one claim to fame IMHO.
Finally got to see it here in NZ. Not bad overall (I was the only guy laughing at the hovering helicopters) but the visual effects are stunning - holy fucking shit! We did a good chunk of it, but the Smallville and Metropolis battles were visually epic! The level of destruction was off the charts and I would have a hard time conveying just how seriously difficult that volume of high detail work is. I know, after the Transformers films everyone takes it for granted, but man, there's some Oscar worthy VFX in there, and I'm not even talking about the stuff we did. I skipped our cast and crew screening a couple weeks ago because I just didn't want to see it in 3D, but people came back saying it was done well, so I had to wait for another screening to come around. The major bummer in seeing all of that amazing work is knowing that the movie studio is making money hand over fist because of those amazing visuals, yet the companies who made them are barely squeaking by.
I agree with you. I thought the end fight scenes were some of the best visuals in any action sequence ever. The vivid detail and coloring of superman while the grey tones of concrete, smoke, and dust in the background were perfect.
saw it in 3D barely noticed it but it was the only seance i had time for. Good movie, i really liked the Krypton part of it and the repercussions on earth ofthe decisions made there.
Worth owning in bluray DVD.
Worth owning in bluray DVD.
One of the most difficult things we had to do on the movie was the Kryptonian displays (aka Liquid Geo). We had a small team devoted to just that effect and it was incredibly tedious and technically challenging and lucky for me, I didn't have to deal with it at all (just smoke and vapor...lots and lots of it).
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I'd watch it just cause Amy Adams is in it
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