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Hearing protection advice needed

Pester

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The doc says I need to do a better job of protecting my hearing so I am looking at my options. Normally I shoot 9mm, 45acp pistols, .223 and .308 bolt guns.

For the pistols I have normally used normal foam earplugs(put in properly) and that has been ok. Last time I was at the range I used the plugs plus muffs and that did a better job of noise suppression.

For the rifles I used to just use the plugs also and muffs on cooler days however the muffs always seem to get in the way when shooting( have not used the lower profile ones)

When I look at whats out there it seems like my options are:

1. Plugs and regular ear muffs
2. Electronic ear muffs
3. Electronic ear plugs.

Any other options I am missing?

Recommendations?

Thanks in advance
 
Get yourself the custom molded plugs.
Use the custom plugs when shooting and if you RO or watch a lot of shooting during matches, wear both your plugs and muffs.

I'm in the process right now of getting re-fitted for custom plugs....my damn ears are still ringing from RSO duties and matches. Trying to keep my hearing as long as I can. ;)
 
A 45 osprey and a 30cal can would work great :)

But really I always double up. Normal foam plugs and some low profile mugs. The muffa are electronic but I've never used them that way
 
Agree on the cans lol.. I also double up with foam and electronic muffs. Looking to try out some of the surefire ear protection soon and see how they compare.
 
Get yourself the custom molded plugs.
Use the custom plugs when shooting and if you RO or watch a lot of shooting during matches, wear both your plugs and muffs.

I'm in the process right now of getting re-fitted for custom plugs....my damn ears are still ringing from RSO duties and matches. Trying to keep my hearing as long as I can. ;)

My wife gave me a gift certificate to the local gun shop to get custom plugs made. It was ~$40. They would be worth it at twice that price. They work better than foam plugs and the main advantage to me is that they can be inserted instantly, no need to wait for them to expand to seal your ear canal. If I need to hear conversation, I give them a very slight twist and it breaks the seal which allows me to hear but still gives pretty good protection.
 
Howard Leight "Impact Sport" electronic muffs. They amplify sound + protect your ears very well. I have used it shooting next to .408 CheyTac and ARs with loud brakes.

Cost is a reasonable $45 at most places. Battery life is super long. I have had a couple pair banging around in my truck/range bag for years.
 
I like the Howard Leight sport muffs...they are what I use - I especially like plugging in my mp3 player and listening to tunes while I RO....however, under covered shooting pavilions and working a weekend worth of 10 hour shifts, they aren't enough...gotta double up or you end up saying "huh?" a lot to your wife. lol
 
I called a couple of the shops in my area and they dont do custom earl plugs. Anyone have a brand recommendation that I could follow up with? I will look at the low profile muffs as well. I see a big price range in the low profile electronic muffs. Is that driven by performance or weight or brand name?

I thought I read somewhere that there were supposed to be some good electronic custom fit plugs that are supposed to be excellent. If anyone has experience with those I would be interested.

Coldfusion, are these the SureFire plugs you are talking about? SureFire Black EP-4 Sonic Defender Plus Earpieces EP4-BK-LPR, EP4-BK-MPR, EP4-BK-SPR, EP4-SPR, EP4-BK-LPR-BULK, EP4-BK-MPR-BULK, EP4-BK-SPR-BULK, EP4-SPR-BULK. SureFire Hearing Protection.

Thanks!
 
I use NitroEar's when I'm not using Peltors. They offer custom molded versions in addition to off the shelf verssions. I moved up to these based on a buddies recommendation and do like them in place of peltors depending on what I am doing. If I need comms, I use the Peltors, if not the Nitro's work really well. They block out sound(gunfire) as needed and they give the typical situational awareness and amplification found in Peltors, etc. They also stay put(don't fall out) during stenuous activity and best of all, after a full 8+ hours of wearing them your ear hole doesn't feel like it's been raped by a gorilla at the end of the day. The one thing that scares most away from custom made ear pro is the top shelf price and the Nitro's are top shelf but worth it IMO.

Nitro Ear | Revolutionary Premium Custom Digital Hearing Protection Enhancement Product


If custom molded is too rich for your budget, a good set of surefire sonic defenders (12.00) combined with a pair of Peltor 6-s($45.00) will give you a good deal of protection.
 
PZT, thanks. I think that is what I was hearing about and $1k isnt in a short term budget. That being said is it your experience that the Nitro Ears will work as well as foam plugs + muffs? I guess my question is are they going to be enough to help with the .308?

I think work may pay for some or all of the price for hearing protection so if I believe that the Nitro's will cover everything I can likely get some help on the price.
 
I use to use foam and non electronic muffs. I recently decided to upgrade and bought some Surefire EP4's. The EP4 are better than I imagined. Leaps and bounds better than the foam. Quicker to put in, more comfortable, lower profile (the foams sometimes begin to slip out), and I find they block noise better.

If I am shooting alone in the open air they are all I wear now. At the range I put the muffs over them and I've never winced yet.
 
Pester, any hearing-aid specialist will be able to help you out with the custom plugs. My local Sams Club has a hearing center and they did the molds for me and also have the plugs for sale.
 
Thrusty, thanks. That helps a lot.

I think what I will do is order up a set of the Surefires so I have something I can use soon at the pistol range and see how those work. Then I will look at some of the custom molded ones. Having a back up set wont hurt.


Then, depending on the decision from work, I might look at the Nitro's a bit later...unless the go on sale for some crazy price. And to that end my vote it that Thrusty should set up a GB for the Nitro's at like 50% off.
 
FYI...those Surefires ain't worth the plastic they come packaged in. I'd give you mine for free....used once. lol
 
PZT, thanks. I think that is what I was hearing about and $1k isnt in a short term budget. That being said is it your experience that the Nitro Ears will work as well as foam plugs + muffs? I guess my question is are they going to be enough to help with the .308?

I think work may pay for some or all of the price for hearing protection so if I believe that the Nitro's will cover everything I can likely get some help on the price.

The Nitro-ears work fine with 308. They have 3 different sensitivity settings so you can tune them to fit your environment and sound needs.As to them working well as double hearing protection I cannot say as I don't know what the Db level is for Surefires and Peltors combined. I can say that they work as well if not better than my Peltor electronic muffs
which I have found to provide adequate hearing protection by themselves. The only time I really concern myself with double hearing protection is when firing the 106 recoilless rifle or if I plan on being around sustained gunfire for more than a few moments. In your case it may be necessary to save what hearing you do have and double may be needed even for short durations around loud noises, your Dr. should be able to give you guidance on that as to what an acceptable Db level is as thats what is really important at the end of the day.

If you look at Db ratings for all the different products, the foam ear plugs usually have a high Db rating but as we all know, they tend to shift and or fall out so you don't get that Db rating unless they are perfectly in your ear at all times. Foamies are great and cheap for 1-2 time uses. But for durability and multiple use I find the SureFire ear plugs to be money and protection well spent ($12.00) when you don't need amplified sound/hearing. The only draw back I've found is that if you wear them for an hour or more, your ear hole feels raped at the end of the day. I wear the Surefires in a constant high noise environment with a constant pitch (vertical wind tunnel) where hearing others speak or sounds isn't option so they are my choice. For shooting I prefer electronic protection as I need to hear others speaking and don't want to end up shouting at others because my hearing pro is throwing my volume off.
 
Howard Leight "Impact Sport" electronic muffs. They amplify sound + protect your ears very well. I have used it shooting next to .408 CheyTac and ARs with loud brakes.

Cost is a reasonable $45 at most places. Battery life is super long. I have had a couple pair banging around in my truck/range bag for years.

These are what I bought for my wife when I was looking for some that weren't too expensive and they were on sale for a good price at the time and I heard a lot of good about them. I wanted to get her the Peltor 6's because I had experience with those and they were a good price too, but she liked those because she could hook her phone/ipod up to it. They aren't bad and are pretty popular, the HL, but my wife still likes to wear plugs with 'em with most calibers, which defeats the purpose for me. The ones I bought when I was an SDM instructor on the range all day with 20 rifles going close together, yet still be able to hear voices LOUDER if I chose, were the Peltor Tactical 7 Classics. They have about a 10dB better NRR than the HL's. Enough so my wife now always wants to wear those. Bigger and more expensive, but well worth it. They last forever, comfortable, I love 'em. Dillon sets are cheap, but total junk. We bought those for the students so they could hear us.

The Tactical 6's are thinner and have about the same NRR as the Howard Leight's and cost about the same I think. I don't know how they sound though.

In addition to NRR, you also want to know how fast they cut off when there's a loud noise. A high NRR with a slower cut off time is better than a lower NRR set with a faster cut off time. But if you get a thinner, lower NRR set like a HL or Peltor 6, and NRR is similar, then go with the ones that cut off fastest. Info is online. That's my opinion on it.

I still pass my hearing tests, I don't know how I do. But I have tinnitus from damaged cilia (ear hairs that pick up sound) from blast waves farting with Claymores and C4 at close range (anytime they gave me the chance!). I reckon some loud calibers with insufficient ear pro like say, a .357 magnum in close quarters, that'll make you deaf for a week and may do similar damage (done that too). I think .357 is one of those insanely loud calibers. Some are MUCH worse than others, so it depends on what you shoot a lot too.

I also agree, a suppressor is a great way to go, and I LOVE to shoot .300BLK subs "naked". It feels alien not having ears on. But I still wear those 7's with a suppressor with most other rounds when I fire a lot.

Also, if you gotta stuff 'em under a helmet, I know you can stuff the HL's in an ACH in a pinch. Not Peltor 7's, not sure of 6's. Keep that in mind though if you have to do that, and if you do you're gonna lose NRR unless you shell out cash likely. Or get a special helmet and shell out cash anyway.

FWIW, the 7's come with a mic/radio socket, but not sure what kind. Batteries last a good while too.

Good luck, take care of those ears and eyes!
 
thanks PZT and Stryker,
I ordered the Surefires and will see how they work. When I go to the pistol range I either go by myself and its about an hour or I go with others and thats a longer time. I had a pair plugs that looked like the Surefires and they did get to bother my ears when I wore them for a while. If that is the case again I will go with some of the custom molded ones and keep the Surefires as back up.

Thanks for the advice
 
I've shot a .308 with a muzzle brake on an indoor range with the Surefire EP-7 plugs; they do an exceptional job of sealing outside noise while allowing a unencumbered cheek weld. I tried some of the other Surefire plugs and they didn't work as well as the ones with the foam tips for sealing in my God-given deformed ear canals.

EP7 Hearing Protectors Sonic Defenders<sup>®</sup> <i>Ultra</i> from SureFire
 
All I use now are the surefire EP7 ear plugs, they are very comfortable for extended wearing with their memory foam type insert. I use them all the way up to the 50 BMG and they do great, best part is you can hear conversation very easily. EP7 all the way bro!!