Rifle Scopes 5 vs 10 mil turrets

[krackshot]

Looking at picking up a Razor HD, I see they come with 5 or 10 mil turrets.
I was wondering what would be better. I have access to land where I could shoot out
to further than I'm capable of. Any thoughts.

 

[Goin'Hot]

I had a 10 mil / rev unit for a brief stint. I didn't care for it. I couldn't quickly figure out exactly where I had stopped. The lines are too close together. If they made the knob as wide as it is tall, I don't think the issue would exist. I would imagine the turrets on the 5 mil would be much easier to keep track of.

Not knowing what you're shooting and the amount of elevation you'll actually need, it's hard to tell if you'll notice a huge advantage with one over the other. The Zero stop makes it easy to keep track of where you are.

It's not all 10 mil turrets that have issues though. My March turret is a great 10 mil turret. My 15 mil PH is well executed as well.

 

[CleanMoostang]

5 is the way to go

 

[krackshot]

Thanks for the input. I'll be getting the 5 mil.

 

[Captain Kirk]

I see this discussion from a different angle. I use Premier and S&B scopes with 14 mils per rev (26-28 mil DT), as well as a lot of time behind the Bushnell DMRs with 5 and 10 mil turrets. I shoot matches where you are frequently a turn or two (or more) into a 5 mil per rev turret in a high stress situation, when you do this you will understand the benefit of a 10 mil (or more) mil per rev turret. Are the clicks closer together and harder to read? a little. I don't count clicks, I find it a colossal waste of time, if the call is 8.2 its rip it to 8 then .2 vs 5 +3.2. With a quality scope like the Razor, clicks are precise and audible, I would choose the 10 mil turret.

 

[Sako man]

Looking at picking up a Razor HD, I see they come with 5 or 10 mil turrets.
I was wondering what would be better. I have access to land where I could shoot out
to further than I'm capable of. Any thoughts.

Personally I think it's easier to get lost when you only have 5 mils per turn. I prefer more. I think Vortex got a lot of people asking for 10 mils and they responded, to their credit.

I like the Razor glass, very clear, and the reticles they have as well, but the 5x turrets have been a weak spot.

I currenty own more precision glass then precision rifles. SnB 25x MTC P4F, Premier 25x MTC Gen2XR...love it... Steiner 25x MSR, and as of this week Kahles 24x Mil4. Everyone of them have 10+mills per turn.

 

[MrSwede]

10 mil per rev is the way to go in a tactical riflescope. There are no benefits to the 5 mil version. Should you sell the scope later on, I bet it will be easier to sell if its 10 mil per rev.

 

[bh-ltr]

I've spent some time on rifles with 5 mil turrets and I'm always MUCH happier when I get back to my S&B with 14 mil per turn (plus an obvious method of telling you what rev you're in). But when you've got 14 mil per rev its not that often that I get into the second revolution but I have a few times here and there. Once I get the rifle converted over to .260 Remington it will be much rarer than I'll get into that second turn and that is FINE by me. I'd be much happier with 10 mil turrets than 5. Matter of fact I think a 5 mil turret would be a deal breaker for me. 5 mil and no zero stop would be an absolute nightmare so thankfully you'll at least have the zero stop if you get the 5 mil turret.

~Brett

 

[bh-ltr]

Thanks for the input. I'll be getting the 5 mil.

I hope you take a bit more time to read through the rest of the thread. Hopefully quoting you will bring you back here. I think you should reconsider the 5 mil turret! Getting where you want to go faster and not getting lost in the turns is way more important than the chance that you may read the knob wrong and be off by a tenth. Its WAY less embarrassing to miss by a tenth (which is usually a hit) than it is to miss by 5 or 10 mil.

~Brett

 

[lonely_wolf]

I had a 5mil NF, then upgraded to a 10mil. Both turrets work fine with good clicks, but I prefer the 5mil. I found it better spaced. More gross motor than fine. I don't dislike the 10mil, but given the choice, I'd rather the 5mil.

 

[oneshot.onehit]

5 mil versus 10 mil becomes a personal preference, I end up having to run the 5 mil turret hard up and down at events and time restraints but I prefer the 5 due to my eye sight sucking at close up stuff, must old age kicking in some. I will say the zero stops on my Razors work well. As does the rest of the scope as well

Cheers

 

[Goin'Hot]

I shoot matches where you are frequently a turn or two (or more) into a 5 mil per rev turret in a high stress situation, when you do this you will understand the benefit of a 10 mil (or more) mil per rev turret.

I fully agree that there is a benefit in a high stress match environment but, the OP is talking about shooting on a piece of property with more distance than he can hit anything. No match, no stress.

 

[Graham]

The more I use ten-Mil turrets the more I like five-Mil turrets. But then again, I rarely dial more than 7 Mils.

 

[SONIC SAAMI]

I like a 5mil
My eyes are old and its much easier to see the 5mil marks than the 10mil.
And like Graham,I rarely dial past 7mil
10mil of dial? I would need to be shooting at something @1,355y

 

[leadbullet]

5 mil turret suck and blow at the same time, with a 10mil you go twice as far without having to count turns.

 

[krackshot]

Thanks everyone for your input, now I just need to make up my mind and order it.

 

[McLarenross]

Ill put in another vote for 10mil turrets. My my loads in my 308 I dont get through the first revolution until 950 yards. For the matches I shoot around here 1000 is the absolute max. No need for zero stops really either as with a 20 MOA base Im only 9 mils from the bottom of the travel of the scope with my 100 yard zero. Cant mess that up. Im sure someone could get lost with this setup, but Ive never even come close. As for the clicks being too close together, you shouldnt be counting clicks. Use the marks on the turret. 7.7 mils is the 7 mark then 2 clicks past the half mark, not 77 clicks. Im using a SWFA SS 5-20 btw.

 

[Goin'Hot]

As for the clicks being too close together, you shouldnt be counting clicks. Use the marks on the turret. 7.7 mils is the 7 mark then 2 clicks past the half mark, not 77 clicks.

I don't know of anybody that counts clicks. My issue with my 10 mil Razor was trying to dial right to 7.7 mils. The physical spacing on the turret makes it difficult to look at the turret and figure out if you're at 7.6, 7.7 or 7.8. There is a slight amount of backlash as well which compounds the issue. If you haven't used these actual turrets, you won't understand.

 

[Aimsmall55]

I just got the XRS. Couldn't be happier. It's comparable to the old NF 10 moa per turn to the new 20 moa per turn. Less dialing equals less confusion. My opinion

 

[hypno02]

After using both, I'm definitely a 10 mil guy. I hate getting lost in revolutions and like getting to 1k with my .308 in one turn. I will say this, I've never had a chance to use a 5 mil scope with zero stops. Although I think I'd still prefer any 10mil turret to that.

 

[deadnbrkn84]

IMO it completely depends on the caliber you shoot. My 6mm is 6.3 to 1k so I'd probably take the 5 mil (which I have) because it's harder under stress to mis dial. If I were shooting a 308 it would absolutely be the 10 mil

 

[Ring]

had the 5, sent it in to make it a 10... i like the 10, but yes, the 5 is more "solid" on the clicks

 

[Runamuk]

The 5mil Razor reminds me of changing the channel knob on the old TV's, there is no need to double check your correction as it's VERY positive.

For me their just as fast as the 10mil turrets on my F1.

 

[kansas]

I'm glad I read this. I got to shoot my new Razor this last weekend for the first time and it has a 10mil turret and I wasn't sure if I liked it or not. We do shoot past 1000 yards (I said shoot, not hit) and with my .308 and a 20 moa base I had to run all the way around once and, if I wouldn't have ran out of time, would have used all my travel to get to 1400 yards. That would have been 4 revolutions with a 5 mil turret. I could see getting lost with a 5 mil turret but was thinking that it would be nice to have more space between the marks on the turret. My eyes are failing too. I didn't count clicks though and just dialed. Worked fine. Our little local match has become so popular that we've had to limit time for each stage so time is important. Think I'm going to be glad I've got the 10 mil.

 

[oneshot.onehit]

I don't know of anybody that counts clicks. My issue with my 10 mil Razor was trying to dial right to 7.7 mils. The physical spacing on the turret makes it difficult to look at the turret and figure out if you're at 7.6, 7.7 or 7.8. There is a slight amount of backlash as well which compounds the issue. If you haven't used these actual turrets, you won't understand.

face it your just getting old to

 

[Enough Said]

I'll forget to spin off my 10-mil turret with the same frequency that I forget to spin off my 5-mil turret.

I'll take the 5-mil turret, all day, and into the night on Sunday.

 

[SPDSNYPR]

I prefer the 10 mil turret I have now over the 5 mil I had previously. My eyes are over 40 and I have trouble with close-up stuff, but I don't have issue seeing the NF 10 mil marks. I would not go back to the 5 mil/rev turrets.

 

[ToKeepAndBear]

Have both, DEFINITELY 10 or greater. Being 5 mils off blows.