So, I think I am going to have to start reloading. I really want to and now I think it is my next step. I can group a 3" easy at 500 and 7ish" at a 1000 but after that they are all over the place. Even at 1000 you have to be a good shot and know your poi. I shoot a rem 700 5R 308 with leupold 6.5-20 glass. I am shooting 175 Southwest BTHP and can drive nails at 500 with them. Am I out of gun or out of ballistics? Is it barrel, ammo, shooter....hehe.....? I have only been shooting LR for about 8 months now but been a shooter my whole life.