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PLRF-10 review

Jeffvn

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I have had several folks ask me about my experience with my new PLRF-10, so I thought I would just post this up and let everyone see what I think.

I had 2 laser rangefinders before I got the PLRF-10. A chepo Bushnell that worked well to exactly 600 yards, and a Swaro that was fine to 1,000 yards, and then didn't do much beyond it.

I have to admit the desert where I use them is a tough place to range. Lots of mixed background, and I use and range smallish targets (18x24 plate steel). You put an 18x24 piece of steel in the middle of mid-sized scrub and cactus and things get dicey. Not to mention my ability to handhold a laser on a target at 1,500+ yards.

I got the PLRF-10 with the expectation to use it in the desert to range targets out to and beyond the range of my 338LM Improved - call it 2,000 yards. So far it has met every expectation that I had for it.

Day one I got the device, and was surprised at its size (I guess I figured it would be bigger). It is bigger than the Swaro, but not by a whole lot. Its a box, with an eyepiece. They were nice enough to include batteries for it with the device, so you could install and immediately start to explore the device and its features. The batteries are the standard Surefire batteries. Easy to mount my Manfrotto tripod (and a tripod is helpful - at least by me when trying to hit an 18"x24" plate steel from 1,800 yards away). It has a mil-based reticle in teh viewer (10 mil increments out to 30 on each side)

The ranges show up in red Diod numbers; easy to read. If you are old enough to remember the original calculators from TI, the numbers look exactly like those did.

If you moved to much for the beam to get the range, you get horizontal lines, so try again. If you are too far from your target to get a range, same result.

I immediately started ranging things that I knew to be well beyond the reach of my swaro.... 2,200 yards, and out to 2,400+ yards. the max range is supposedly 2,500 yards. It is close to that, I have seen 2,400+ on my ranges. The beam is tight, and rarely do I get "the lines" telling me that it could not get the range. I still prefer to handhold everything (probably why I get the lines that I do), but it has a tripod mount on it for easy installation on the manfrotto. Mostly, I range 2 or 3 times just to make sure that I was holding and getting what I was trying to range.

Likes - I like: the ease of use, the glass is very clear, and gives a good image with 6X magnification. It has a mil-based reticle in the viewer. It has a separate lit reticle (very abbreviated version of the regular reticle) but I have never tried to use it. The lit reticle drain the batteries quickly.

Wishes - I wish it had a touch more magnification 6X is fine for what I use it for. 8X like my swaro would be nicer. I wish I could afford the extra cost of getting the internal compass and incline meter. I bet that is a sweet piece of gear, but it added nearly 50% to the cost.

I have had no problems with it at all, regardless of weather and time of day (I have not tried to range looking directly into the rising or setting sun). I have used it every desert trip since I bought it. Recently, I have been going out about every 3 weeks to shoot in the desert.

From my view, its worth the price (I got mine from Potomic Group, and they gave me a prior military service discount). To buy it they run your SSN and do a basic check. I was happy to see that happen, as it might just keep this gear out of the hands of folks who might use it against our troops.

Jeffvn
 
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Thanks for the write-up
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YOU are joking right , the units are not made in the US, they are made in Switzerland ( and you are trying to control IT ) , and they will sell direct to anyone in the world , no checks done at all , or If the have a agent the sale will be done thru them ,opps .

ITAR is a stupid joke ( an American one ), its meant to stop , strategic defence items , like Tanks , Aircraft , ie cutting edge stuff , etc .

Instead its been used to put a blanket cost/ban on almost anything , from beleive it or not , torq head screws to computer chips etc , in simple terms excissive , & penilising ONLY the Law abiding that try to get permits etc , the criminals donot give it a second thought , if I was a drug dealer or crim living in the US , I can buy anything , but If I am a law abiding vetted citizen ( with GovT permits ) of a different country , I am unworthly .

They worry about a couple of sport shooters , that are not crims , and have their own GovTs permission to buy stuff like LRF , scopes etc , and deny them .

Bare in mind these master minds , FORGET , that the latest NVGs & LRF are sold straight to any US civies ( dosnt matter if they are crims or Muslims ), with in effect NO control , with no actual vetting / checking , and I surpose that none of them would ever breech ITAR and send units straight to their Terroristd mates overseas , please .

Thats not even factoring in the units sold to direct to Muslims countries Armed forces , ie black market , or the US personel in these Muslim countries selling stolen US gear direct to the wrong people .

Opps , any way , It will not matter soon , as all troops will be out of Iraq & Afghan .

By point is , control the real important stuff , while the US has been over the top on the really old & small stuff that the should not have been worried about ( or given a simple permitting system , ie restrict to a few countries ) , they in my opinion , wasted time & money that may have been better directed towards , protecting the real cutting edge stuff like the 4th gen stealth fighters , Opps , thats right thats the stuff that was stolen Opps .

At the moment , the US has a basic ban on exporting 3rd GEn night vision gear , wake you are protecting 30yr old tech , smart .

To me ITAR , does not work as it should , bare in mind ITAR is a newish US reg .

Later Chris
 
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Nice write up. I've had my PLRF for a couple of years and have been impressed and pleased with mine also. Pricey but worth it if you're planning to do any serious range finding beyond 1000 yds.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">YOU are joking right</div></div>

Nope. Just telling EXACTLY like it was when I bought mine.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the units are not made in the US, they are made in Switzerland</div></div>

No kidding. I just bought one, and the box had a nifty little customs tag and form on it when it got delivered to my house.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">( and you are trying to control IT )</div></div>

I'm not trying to control shit. I just reported what I had to go through to get mine.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and they will sell direct to anyone in the world, no checks done at all , or If the have a agent the sale will be done thru them ,opps .</div></div>

If you mean Vectronix will sell to anyone, they might. I don't know. I didn't even try to talk to them directly. I knew I could get my PLRF-10 cheaper from the Potomic Group - a U.S. company. FYI when I was talking to the Potomic Group THEY said that THEY will not sell one to anyone unless they do the check. Maybe they were yanking my chain, maybe not. It didn't matter to me; I have nothing to hide and said go for it. To me saving the $$$$ on the asking price plus the military discount was well worth the mini background check.

Jeffvn
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jeffvn</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">YOU are joking right</div></div>

Nope. Just telling EXACTLY like it was when I bought mine.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the units are not made in the US, they are made in Switzerland</div></div>

No kidding. I just bought one, and the box had a nifty little customs tag and form on it when it got delivered to my house.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">( and you are trying to control IT )</div></div>

I'm not trying to control shit. I just reported what I had to go through to get mine.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and they will sell direct to anyone in the world, no checks done at all , or If the have a agent the sale will be done thru them ,opps .</div></div>

If you mean Vectronix will sell to anyone, they might. I don't know. I didn't even try to talk to them directly. I knew I could get my PLRF-10 cheaper from the Potomic Group - a U.S. company. FYI when I was talking to the Potomic Group THEY said that THEY will not sell one to anyone unless they do the check. Maybe they were yanking my chain, maybe not. It didn't matter to me; I have nothing to hide and said go for it. To me saving the $$$$ on the asking price plus the military discount was well worth the mini background check.

Jeffvn </div></div>

Vectronix USA does the same check.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jeffvn</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">YOU are joking right</div></div>

Nope. Just telling EXACTLY like it was when I bought mine.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the units are not made in the US, they are made in Switzerland</div></div>

No kidding. I just bought one, and the box had a nifty little customs tag and form on it when it got delivered to my house.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">( and you are trying to control IT )</div></div>

I'm not trying to control shit. I just reported what I had to go through to get mine.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and they will sell direct to anyone in the world, no checks done at all , or If the have a agent the sale will be done thru them ,opps .</div></div>

If you mean Vectronix will sell to anyone, they might. I don't know. I didn't even try to talk to them directly. I knew I could get my PLRF-10 cheaper from the Potomic Group - a U.S. company. FYI when I was talking to the Potomic Group THEY said that THEY will not sell one to anyone unless they do the check. Maybe they were yanking my chain, maybe not. It didn't matter to me; I have nothing to hide and said go for it. To me saving the $$$$ on the asking price plus the military discount was well worth the mini background check.

Jeffvn </div></div> JEFF you think ChrisF is barking at you here LOL --I shoot with ChrisF and he speaks the same in person hahaha
 
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ch'e

Nah I just think he doesn't know what he is talking about when it comes to buying a V. PLRF-10 here in the states.

Maybe different rules apply in the pacific. If that is true, then that would be great for you guys. But, I'm here and have to deal with the rules here.

Jeffvn
 
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ITAR , are stupid American BS rules , that donot work as they where maybe intended , they seem not to have been drawn up for what they have balloned too , ie all encompassing , when I say their was a supplier that would not ship his scope mount with american torq head screws that happened , and he was not even inside America , you are NOW trying to ban small metal bolts.

I have a much better handle on this than you ( you have no HANDLE ON it , as you have not had dealings with IT as, inside America , all this ITAR BS , dosn't aplly , and you are very luckly they donot as then you would not be able to have the Toys YOU DO ) , so all you did was sign the courier form , sh&T , you do that for most stuff delivered By a courier , and thats PROTECTION , No its not .

As to who I am , I am a New Zealand Licenced firearms dealer , that has been vetted by our police , I have imported rifles & gear from around the world , including the US , and in the last few years rules have gotten , much harder & more costly to comply with ( and more stupid ) , and this is not illegal trades , this is licenced & approved shipments between the US & other western countries .

America has made it very hard to export civie weapons to her so called Allies , its so expensive & costly in time & redtape etc , that you have AR15s being made in Germany , Czech RP , Canada etc , as well as several Rem700 actions being made in the anitgun UK , Opps , thats crazy in a free market world , as the cheapest Ars are made inside the US .



I was pointing out the gapping flaws , ie the law abiding are stopped , but the lawless are not , just like IF you could not legally own or carry a gun , that Law would have no effect on the crims .

If we applied ITAR BS to stuff you guys want , like AI rifles & S&B scopes , and said , as these are intended for Police & Military , they will be NO civie sales ie no sales to YOU ( only Mil or Police ) means you would NOT be able to buy that nice AI rifle at all , because , thats what you have done to the rest of the world .

when it comes to enforcement , maybe , maybe NOT , I applied to get a 21B ( range 15k ) exported legally thru your crazy ITAR rules to me in NZ , Export agent said Yeap , he can do it for $750 USD , and for me to send my paper work , over , I did , had NZ Police Import permit , sent copies etc , then told , Oh , NO they cannot do it , as its a Military controlled item , but they will sell these controlled items to any US civie , Yeah , thats CONTROL , no permits/vetting etc .

I did it leaglly my ITAR rules , and was turned down .

At the same time another guy did the same , but he paid the supplier & told him to ship to his US friend , and he would hold IT for him , till he sorted out the ITAR export , opps , do you believe that .

YEAP , you guessed IT , his US mate just psoted it straight to him , Opps , what about the correct ITAR export permits , Opps , looks like it was shipped Illegaly , Opps and cheaper too .

And what happened to ENFORCEMENT , Opps , nothing .

Simply the rules and procedures & penilites donot work , I donot like things that are not thought out well & basically are un-workable .

Donot mean to be rude , but as I said , you have had no real dealings with State dept export permits , ITAR , and Export agent costs & time , as YOU have not had to use them .

Other people may have had different dealings with permits etc , I did see , a guy in South America that said he exported a AI AX308 rifle out of the US , I have had different experience with trying to export a AI AWM out of the US , my FFL Exporter , got back to me , and said the permit for the AI rifle had not been approved as IT was I quote a rifle made for Mil & Police , so thats my actual experience , not hearsay , or rumours , but MY actual experience .

I THANK GOD ( and I donot beleive in HIM ) , every day that the best scopes & rifles are made OUT side the USA , OR I would not have nice AI rifles & S&B scopes on them .

Later Chris
 
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"Donot mean to be rude"

Sure you do. Otherwise you would not shit on my thread the way that you are; you would start one of your own in the Bear Pit and rant about ITAR all you like. Thanks for turning this into yet another BS thread that I don't even want to read.

Jeffvn
 
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Chris you gotta talk not bark bro,Jeff just wants to give a PLRF-10 review not recive a lesson in your personal frustrations LOL
 
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Maybe this will help defuse things: Hey Chris, I was talking to Michael at IEA MilOptics in Germany about Spotter 60 reticles and it turns out you can order one with a different reticle than the standard L-midot, including a standard mil-hash, H32, etc.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ChrisF</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
YOU are joking right , the units are not made in the US, they are made in Switzerland ( and you are trying to control IT ) , and they will sell direct to anyone in the world , no checks done at all , or If the have a agent the sale will be done thru them ,opps .

ITAR is a stupid joke ( an American one ), its meant to stop , strategic defence items , like Tanks , Aircraft , ie cutting edge stuff , etc .

Instead its been used to put a blanket cost/ban on almost anything , from beleive it or not , torq head screws to computer chips etc , in simple terms excissive , & penilising ONLY the Law abiding that try to get permits etc , the criminals donot give it a second thought , if I was a drug dealer or crim living in the US , I can buy anything , but If I am a law abiding vetted citizen ( with GovT permits ) of a different country , I am unworthly .

They worry about a couple of sport shooters , that are not crims , and have their own GovTs permission to buy stuff like LRF , scopes etc , and deny them .

Bare in mind these master minds , FORGET , that the latest NVGs & LRF are sold straight to any US civies ( <span style="color: #FF0000">dosnt matter if they are crims or Muslims</span> ), with in effect NO control , with no actual vetting / checking , and I surpose that none of them would ever breech ITAR and send units straight to their Terroristd mates overseas , please .

Thats not even factoring in the units sold to direct to Muslims countries Armed forces , ie black market , or the US personel in these Muslim countries selling stolen US gear direct to the wrong people .

Opps , any way , It will not matter soon , as all troops will be out of Iraq & Afghan .

By point is , control the real important stuff , while the US has been over the top on the really old & small stuff that the should not have been worried about ( or given a simple permitting system , ie restrict to a few countries ) , they in my opinion , wasted time & money that may have been better directed towards , protecting the real cutting edge stuff like the 4th gen stealth fighters , Opps , thats right thats the stuff that was stolen Opps .

At the moment , the US has a basic ban on exporting 3rd GEn night vision gear , wake you are protecting 30yr old tech , smart .

To me ITAR , does not work as it should , bare in mind ITAR is a newish US reg .

Later Chris

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Your illiteracy is matched by your ignorance.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ChrisF</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I THANK GOD ( and I donot beleive in HIM ) , every day that the best scopes & rifles are made OUT side the USA , OR I would not have nice AI rifles & S&B scopes on them .
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I thank God (and believe in him) everyday that I live in a country where we dont have to deal with stupid laws and can buy however many or whatever kind of the worlds best equipment we want. Such as AI, S&B, GAP, NF, USO, DTA, AAC, Ect.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coldboremiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I thank God (and believe in him) everyday that I live in a country where we dont have to deal with stupid laws and can buy however many or whatever kind of the worlds best equipment we want. Such as AI, S&B, GAP, NF, USO, DTA, AAC, Ect.</div></div>

Of course, that depends which state you live in
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dogtown</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coldboremiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I thank God (and believe in him) everyday that I live in a country where we dont have to deal with stupid laws and can buy however many or whatever kind of the worlds best equipment we want. Such as AI, S&B, GAP, NF, USO, DTA, AAC, Ect.</div></div>

Of course, that depends which state you live in
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Your right, I forgot that several states have lost some freedom.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coldboremiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
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Your right, I forgot that several states have lost some freedom. </div></div>

They make up for it with superb weather
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dogtown</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coldboremiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
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Your right, I forgot that several states have lost some freedom. </div></div>

They make up for it with superb weather
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you pay a very high premium for that smog-addled sunshine. I know...

I miss Malibu, the State Park, the variety of cuisine and my friends, but hey, I just picked up an AR-15 from the FFL. It took about 7 minutes. No 10 day cooling off, no $125 transfer fee, no bullet button, no 10-round mag capacity and when MikeR's done with it, a nice suppressor to go with it.

Now, if you add the lower taxes to all the above, it's pretty compelling.

CA is probably some of the most stunning country I've ever seen however. I'm grateful for the chance to have lived there, and I'm grateful for the chance to be living where I am now.

God Bless the USA!
 
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Right now I am up in the air over the PLRF-10 and the PLRF-05 Terrapin. I am currently using a Swarovski but I am reaching the point where it will be the limitation. Thanks for the information on the PLRF-10.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mtscott</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Right now I am up in the air over the PLRF-10 and the PLRF-05 Terrapin. I am currently using a Swarovski but I am reaching the point where it will be the limitation. Thanks for the information on the PLRF-10. </div></div>

I can honestly say with all the reviews out there for the Terrapin, I would go with it over the 10 unless you are buying the 10c. The ranging capabilities are almost exactly the same from what I'm reading.
 
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I used a PRLF10 once a few months ago,but didn't try to range anything far away.
I can say the PRLF05 seems to range almost any composition of natural or manmade target out to 2400 meters, unless you are going for very difficult lighting conditions in which case you might only go out to 2000 meters or so.

In dusk or dawn situations, you can go much farther than 2400 meters. But for shooting even our biggest calibers, is there really a need to range farther than 2400 meters...?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cali_tz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I used a PRLF10 once a few months ago,but didn't try to range anything far away.
I can say the PRLF05 seems to range almost any composition of natural or manmade target out to 2400 meters, unless you are going for very difficult lighting conditions in which case you might only go out to 2000 meters or so.

In dusk or dawn situations, you can go much farther than 2400 meters. But for shooting even our biggest calibers, is there really a need to range farther than 2400 meters...? </div></div>cali tz isnt the beam divergence a bit tighter on the 10 compared to the 05? The terrapin appearrs to do all the 10 does for less money
 
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I have not reviewed the specs on beam divergence. I know we calculated the beam divergence for the 05 at 1000 meters and it was painting a swath of about 2x4 feet or something like that. Will go run the numbers again.

For me the 10 doesn't seem to do anything significant beyond the 05. When I used the 10, as brief as it was, it only gave me range and nothing else fancy like heading etc... but then again I did not used it for more than 30 seconds.
 
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I found our calculation, and at 2000 yards the laser spot is about 2 meters by 4.8 meters. So there you go, caveat emptor on the info.
 
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WE used the PLRF-10 to set up the 338 Bullet Demo, and it worked flawlessly, as I expected.

One interesting nugget of information was the 10s ability to accurately range an 8 foot 2"x2" standing on end at nearly 700 yards (never tried it beyond that distance). Who knew.

We had killer gps clarity on site and so had gps verification (from multiple different devices) on ranges supposedly into the 0.1 of a yard. My particular Garmin was saying accurate to 1 foot. The Laser would say something like 1,100, 1099, 1,102 yards and the gps 1,100.4.

All in all, yet another verification that the laser is a killer piece of gear. The Terrapin didn't exist when I ordered my PLRF-10, and they were still "talking" about the PLRF-5.

Jeffvn
 
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thanks for that update Jeffvn. I was not aware that GPS could get to that level of accuracy.
 
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Here in my region, it just all depends upon how many satellites you can get a singal from. I think I was getting 12 or 14 different ones.
 
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Yeah, I'm jealous now and completely spoiled after using it with Jeff this weekend. At one point I missed him and the 2x2 foot target he was holding up. The hillside that was 2772yd behind him gave me a pretty solid return. I saw 277x 3 times in a row.

Jeff, if you ever get bored with that bad-ass little tool just let me know
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In dusk or dawn situations, you can go much farther than 2400 meters. But for shooting even our biggest calibers, is there really a need to range farther than 2400 meters...?

Probably not in 99% of the cases. But compared to my Swaro I would be happy to have accurate readings on what ever I am looking to shoot at up to 1500-1600. Even with good optics it's hard to resolve stuff past that.
 
In these and pictures you can see some meteorological conditions where only a Vectronix PLRF 10 is able to laser, the other one is Vector 21, general visibility nder 1200 m, under snow precipitation.



PLRF 10 C with Swarosky 2x, Monocam and camera

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these pictures did in Mauritius Island, where with the PLRF I've laser distances beyond the declare max distance, I think is due the different environment in particular the " albedo "...


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the PLRF 10/10C beam is the best only the Vector 21 is better, when you have to laser target on a slope terrain at distances where a correct value is a must PLRF 10/10 C is the way to go...
 
I have PLRF-15c show some use still works great come with tan soft-tac case and black cover PM for more details Or offers
 
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Hi All , I'm new to this site and from the UK . I would like to ask the guy's who posted such great pictures of the PLRF 10's with the Swarovski booster a few questions . I have had my 10's for over 7 years and have never regreated buying them but as my passion is trying to hit small vermin at extreme ranges i have often felt that the 6x is so hard to get accurate readings when the target is right in the middle of a field with nothing around it .
Having just today purchased a second hand Swarovski Booster and contacted Vectronix about their plate attachment i'm getting all excieted in the way that the wife thinks i'm going stupid !
I quoted a part number that One Shot put on the site which was 125-29v-0004-00 only to be told by Vectronix that it should be 905719 SAD84 NV Adapter ? They quoted me 432 Euro's which by the time i get it to the UK and pay customs will be around the £450 or $675 which seems well overpriced .
I wanted to know if anyone else like Wolfman and One Shot had come up with an alternative that has worked . I noticed that One Shot had removed part of the booster where as Wolfman had used the entire booster so at this point i'm getting some what confussed ragarding how far the booster has to be away from the PLRF eyepiece and what difference taking part of the booster away has ?
please forgive me if i'm going over old ground here for you guy's .
regards

Greg .
 
Hi All , I'm new to this site and from the UK . I would like to ask the guy's who posted such great pictures of the PLRF 10's with the Swarovski booster a few questions . I have had my 10's for over 7 years and have never regreated buying them but as my passion is trying to hit small vermin at extreme ranges i have often felt that the 6x is so hard to get accurate readings when the target is right in the middle of a field with nothing around it .
Having just today purchased a second hand Swarovski Booster and contacted Vectronix about their plate attachment i'm getting all excieted in the way that the wife thinks i'm going stupid !
I quoted a part number that One Shot put on the site which was 125-29v-0004-00 only to be told by Vectronix that it should be 905719 SAD84 NV Adapter ? They quoted me 432 Euro's which by the time i get it to the UK and pay customs will be around the £450 or $675 which seems well overpriced .
I wanted to know if anyone else like Wolfman and One Shot had come up with an alternative that has worked . I noticed that One Shot had removed part of the booster where as Wolfman had used the entire booster so at this point i'm getting some what confussed ragarding how far the booster has to be away from the PLRF eyepiece and what difference taking part of the booster away has ?
please forgive me if i'm going over old ground here for you guy's .
regards

Greg .

So I don't have the Swaro 2x, but rather a Zeiss 3X booster.

I inserted it into the Ashbury PVS-14 mount (don't know about the Vectronix part)

PLRF Night Vision Interface | Ashbury Precision Ordnance, Mfg.

and stuffed in some 2-3mm neoprene - kind of a ghetto installation, not the most stable, but it works for me.

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Hi Starbuck , Great photo's of your setup and a 3x booster as well . I now have the Swarovski 2x Booster and can confirm that it doesn't split into two as i first thought and also it doesn't appear to have a critical distance for the booster to be away from the PLRF'S eyepiece and also would appear to give 12x if my crude method of using fence posts at a given distance is right .
Optical quality has suffered as you would expect by putting another few pieces of glass in front of what was already there but its still exceptable given what your gaining .
Am i correct in thinking that all that's holding your eyepiece in the mount is the neoprene wedged around it or is there another fixing as i can see a knurled screw on the side of the Vectronix mount ?
I have been unable to get a response from Ashbury so i have no idea of the cost in the US for this adapter but at 432 Euro's direct from Vectronix i would expect a method of holding the eyepiece . Granted its intended use is for another purpose but all considered its only a little better than packing out a scopes sunshade with neoprene and attaching that in some way to the PLRF ?

Regards

Greg
 
Hi Starbuck , Great photo's of your setup and a 3x booster as well . I now have the Swarovski 2x Booster and can confirm that it doesn't split into two as i first thought and also it doesn't appear to have a critical distance for the booster to be away from the PLRF'S eyepiece and also would appear to give 12x if my crude method of using fence posts at a given distance is right .
Optical quality has suffered as you would expect by putting another few pieces of glass in front of what was already there but its still exceptable given what your gaining .
Am i correct in thinking that all that's holding your eyepiece in the mount is the neoprene wedged around it or is there another fixing as i can see a knurled screw on the side of the Vectronix mount ?
I have been unable to get a response from Ashbury so i have no idea of the cost in the US for this adapter but at 432 Euro's direct from Vectronix i would expect a method of holding the eyepiece . Granted its intended use is for another purpose but all considered its only a little better than packing out a scopes sunshade with neoprene and attaching that in some way to the PLRF ?

Regards

Greg

Yes neoprene around the tripler, friction fit inside the NV mount is all that's holding it it in.

The NV mount does have a set screw, but this did not provide the needed centering of the tripler.

Cannot remember what I paid for the NV mount but it was certainly less than 400USD, a few years ago.

Surprising that APO has been non-responsive. Call and ask for Michelle Pitts. She was their Customer Service person as of a few months ago.

If no luck contact Cory Trapp at Gunsite Academy - he's one of Ashbury's dealers. His handle on here is CoryT and you can reach him via PM.
 
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I have been thinking of some sort of say Delrin material that could sit between the shoulders of the PLRF and be a snug fit over the eyepiece that has the Swarovski booster attached in some way at the other end . If this then required more support then a way of linking the delrin to perhaps the tripod mount of the PLRF's as your pvs mount does . I'll keep you posted on the end result .

Regards

Greg .
 
I have been thinking of some sort of say Delrin material that could sit between the shoulders of the PLRF and be a snug fit over the eyepiece that has the Swarovski booster attached in some way at the other end . If this then required more support then a way of linking the delrin to perhaps the tripod mount of the PLRF's as your pvs mount does . I'll keep you posted on the end result .

Regards

Greg .

Before you do that, check out the post that One Shot ST (aka Davide) made some time ago on the Swaro 2x issue fitting into the NV, which I don't known if you've seen:

http://www.snipershide.com/shooting...nt/81872-plrf-10-c-plus-swaro-booster-2x.html
 
Yes i have seen the thread and when you look at his NV mount and the fitting of the booster it looks different to yours which is odd . One Shot didn't go into detail as to if his booster fitted perfectly or did it need packing like yours .
How do you find the clarity of your PLRF's when the booster is fitted with 3x ? As i've said i feel there is a loss in mine along with getting the image crisp and sharp using the PLRF's eyepiece adjustment . This may correct itself when my two items are connected as trying to get a feeling of what's to come when your using both hands to hold them together and then trying to adjust the eyepiece is hard .
I must learn how i post pictures and i can keep you posted with images rather than just chat .

Greg .
 
I believe Shawn Carlock of Defensive Edge fashioned a part for his RF to attach his magnifier, it look like it came on the unit stock.
 
Hi All , Sorted at last . I purchased a Swarovski 2x Booster and got my gunsmith to turn a piece of Delrin down so that it was a tight fit over the PLRF's eyepiece and would also be a tight fit to accept the Swarovski Booster .
This worked like a dream only to find that my OCD kicked in and i wanted to make it smaller as the Swarovski Booster is tall and makes the rangefnder awkward to use . Opticron do a 2.5x Booster that will fit all their eyepieces via different diameter adapters so after finding the nearest adapter to the PLRF eyepiece diameter i ordered both .
The adapter that came was 33.3mm internal against the 32.5mm eyepiece and they send you a length of thin sticky backed felt to line the inside of the Adapter with so when you screw out the rubber eyecup on the PLRF's it fits perfect . There is a problem with this being that the height of the PLRF's eyepiece is taller than the Adapter so when the Booster is attached and offered over the eyepiece it bottoms out on the glass of the PLRF .
You could pull the Booster away slightly but you need it to locate on a true flat surface or the Reticule will not be in the center of your view .
I ended up using the Delrin Adapter on the PLRF's eyepiece and ordered another larger Opticron Adapter that by adding the sticky backed felt again it gave me a snug fit with now plenty of clearance between the lens of the Booster and that of the eyepiece .
I could not see any optical difference between the Swarovski Booster & the Opticron and the cost i paid for each Adapter was £10 and £89 for the 2.5x Booster which also works on a GA52 spotting scope that i carry in my Rucksack .
Word of warning , There is a trade off for the much wanted extra magnification and that is optical quality but its still okay and whilst i haven't tried a 3x Booster i'm guessing that any more than 3x would mean that you wouldn't be able to read the distance as it would be out of view .
I hope this helps as you don't need to buy an expensive Vectronix mount to get more magnification .

Regards

Greg . :)













 
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