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Chris Kyle`s rifles?

Forgetful Coyote

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Hello yall,

I was just wondering, if anyone in the know, or if any employees of GA Precision, could tell me what rifles Chris Kyle owned and what were his favorite as a civilian? Again, Im not talking about what he used as a SEAL, but what he owned/liked the most as a civilian. I know he mentions GAP in the book, but does anyone have any specifics? Also, did he own any 5.56 AR`s? What was his opinion of 5.56 AR`s? Just curious..

Thanks so much yall
 
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In an interview, he stated that his favorite rifle was a GAP rifle in .308. He also said that he could never afford one, but that GAP built one for him, which I think is really awesome of GAP to do. He also liked NF scopes which he mentioned in his book.
 
From reading his book, that's what I remembered too. I still can't believe he died the way he did. How sad. :(
 
Thanks so much yall. And x2 on that, if GAP really gave him a rifle thats awful nice of yall.

RIP

Chris paid for his rifles, He bought them before the book came out and way before most knew who he was including me. I became good freinds with Chris and the guys at Craft, a great bunch of guys. Chris you are missed Brother!!
 
In an interview, he stated that his favorite rifle was a GAP rifle in .308. He also said that he could never afford one, but that GAP built one for him, which I think is really awesome of GAP to do. He also liked NF scopes which he mentioned in his book.

I would want to double check my memory to insure this is fact but I am pretty sure during a discussion at SHOT this year with a friend he also talked about how much he liked Leupold scopes. (For clarification, discussion between Mr. Kyle and a friend, I was not involved.)
 
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I would want to double check my memory to insure this is fact but I am pretty sure during a discussion at SHOT this year with a friend he also talked about how much he liked Leupold scopes. (For clarification, discussion between Mr. Kyle and a friend, I was not involved.)

Prettt sure he ran a leupold on his rigs overseas...
 
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it was leupy and NF, NSW ran leupy up until aroud 2004-5 then switched over to the NF SFP NXS's.
 
I heard the shots that fateful day. Still makes me sick...

A little off topic, but saw an interview recently with his wife. She finished a book that Chris had been working on.

"American Gun: A History of the U.S. in Ten Firearms" pick it up to support the family. Not to mention that it sounds interesting!

RIP Warrior.
 
I heard the shots that fateful day. Still makes me sick...

A little off topic, but saw an interview recently with his wife. She finished a book that Chris had been working on.

"American Gun: A History of the U.S. in Ten Firearms" pick it up to support the family. Not to mention that it sounds interesting!

RIP Warrior.

I picked it up. She is one tough woman.
 
Just finished American Gun and its a great read and one I would recommend to all on the forum. In my opinion it does show support and honor to Chris and his family along with being just really interesting! It covers 10 firearms that changed American history. I read this one gun at a time as I did not want to finish it quickly.
 
George any chance of a commemorative rifle in Chris's honor?

I think this deserves a lot of focus, and consideration.

A commemorative rifle in Chris' name, based on everything he wanted in a rifle, with the proceeds going to his family.
 
I was wondering if something like that would ever happen considering the popularity of the book at the previous success (I assume they were successful) of the White Feather and the Mawhinney signed rifles.
I'm sure they would sell.
 
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I was wondering if something like that would ever happen considering the popularity of the book at the previous success (I assume they were successful) of the White Feather and the Mawhinney signed rifles.
I'm sure they would sell.

I always saw pics of him with with a rifle that had a Multicam A5 and a Nightforce.
 
A Chris Kyle rifle would be an awesome Idea. I would think it should be a 300wm as he seemed particularly fond of the round in his book. I would be in for one.
 
so what happens when george says no? is he the bad guy or Chris's wife who recently had her husband murdered says she doesn't like the idea? should george make that public? you guys are insane, he died fairly recently leave it alone. This isn't like a man who was in Vietnam and many of his friends are still feeling the pain of the loss. Do you guys have any idea why the SEALs are called the TEAMS???!!!! it isn't about one man, or his accomplishments but the accomplishments of the team. Chris said that many many times. let this thread die as it should.
 
Very poignant points there, BigJoe.

As much as these guys thoughts are in the right direction, and with the best intentions... there are so many MORE points and tangents that are being missed. This does not prevent anyone from purchasing their own rifle, but in the big picture guys, the "army of One" was just a commercial.
 
Btw George, I saw you on TV on that tactical shoot competition yesterday. Looked cool
 
No need for a rifle. Want a rifle, order a rifle already in the lineup and call it a day. Not hard to see that he did indeed have a preference for a rifle as he voted with his own wallet and bought a Gladius.

You guys want to do something to honor him, buy his recent book, donate to the family, the charity, or perhaps a legal defense fund. Call it a day.
 
No need for a rifle. Want a rifle, order a rifle already in the lineup and call it a day. Not hard to see that he did indeed have a preference for a rifle as he voted with his own wallet and bought a Gladius.

You guys want to do something to honor him, buy his recent book, donate to the family, the charity, or perhaps a legal defense fund. Call it a day.

Everything said here is only to honor and pay respect to Chris Kyle. They are only ideas, and none of them for personal gain. Everyone here really respects Chris Kyle. That's all. I personally have purchased both of his books. American Sniper was purchased and read before he died.
 
but your asking george to do a rifle in his honor and then dedicate profits to his widow. I'm saying why don't you guys just take your own money and donate it to the NSW foundation and help all the families and children of SEAL KIA? oh wait they aren't as important. your paying respects to one man, did you know what the 6th was? How many SEALs died on that day in 2011? How about all the SF, PJ, CTT, infantry dead? they deserve a rifle built by a smith or any less of a hero?
 
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Everything said here is only to honor and pay respect to Chris Kyle. They are only ideas, and none of them for personal gain. Everyone here really respects Chris Kyle. That's all. I personally have purchased both of his books. American Sniper was purchased and read before he died.

And as I understand it, Kyle donated 100% of the profit off "American Sniper". That's the character he had. He wanted to help others and said he wrote the book only because others were planning to. He thought it was better to put the money that would be made from his story to good use----his story was one of many, only his had media attention and it seems like he recognized that. Follow Big Joe's advice. He's in the know.
 
I have a list of dead friends too, if anyone wants to know what weapons they liked. I have huge respect for Chris Kyle, but some of these posts are taking away from guys that died fighting. Let her grieve, damn. I can't believe you guys expect to get what you pay for, but expect George to spend hundreds of hours working and give his money to someone else.
 
but your asking george to do a rifle in his honor and then dedicate profits to his widow. I'm saying why don't you guys just take your own money and donate it to the NSW foundation and help all the families and children of SEAL KIA? oh wait they aren't as important. your paying respects to one man, did you know what the 6th was? How many SEALs died on that day in 2011? How about all the SF, PJ, CTT, infantry dead? they deserve a rifle built by a smith or any less of a hero?

Im not asking anyone to donate anything. I'm just saying the idea of building a rifle in his name is an innocent one. I don't think it's cool to volunteer anyone to do anything for free, that part you are correct.
 
Im not asking anyone to donate anything. I'm just saying the idea of building a rifle in his name is an innocent one. I don't think it's cool to volunteer anyone to do anything for free, that part you are correct.

So how does that work? He either has to donate the proceeds or profit off his name....
 
So how does that work? He either has to donate the proceeds or profit off his name....

I don't know how it works. I'm not coming up with a plan for this to happen. Some are saying this is a dishonor to any soldier who has died. I'm just saying that the person who came up with this idea is not meaning to do that.
 
If people volunteer to make a commeritive happen like a "white feather" for gunny or a possible Kyle it's a nice gesture IMHO. Great men & RIP.
 
I briefly met Chris Kyle's widow Taya and Marcus Luttrell when they came through Salt Lake on the Patriot Tour last August. Really good people working really hard to do the right things. Marcus is one really funny guy and big as Texas. Chris was working with us at ES at the time of his death. He cannot be replaced. Craft is still full speed ahead.
 

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I have a list of dead friends too, if anyone wants to know what weapons they liked. I have huge respect for Chris Kyle, but some of these posts are taking away from guys that died fighting. Let her grieve, damn. I can't believe you guys expect to get what you pay for, but expect George to spend hundreds of hours working and give his money to someone else.

Hey Delta, first I am not seeing anyone take anything away from your friends, or anyone else who died fighting for America. May all of their families find peace, and may they all get the help they need. After I got out of the navy (served my time on a flattop, CVN70 plankowner) I worked my whole career in manufacturing. So even though I am not a gunsmith I do know a little bit about the economics of building things. I guess some of the posters might hope that George would donate all the profit to the Kyle family, but that is not how I see that it should work, if George wanted to do it then here is how I see that it might work. I do not expect George to publish his shop rate so lets just say hypothetically that George has calculated that anytime he can get $100/man hour he is doing ok so that is how he quotes/prices his work. Say in the the build of a typical Gladius he has 14 hours. That's $1,400 per rifle. Out of that he has to pay his workers and their benefits. He has to pay for electric, depreciation of equipment, taxes, and other routine business expenses. Say taken across all the guns he builds those expenses total about $1000/rifle. That leave a profit of about $400 per rifle. Given the avg price of his rifles a little less than %10. I think most of us would agree that is not unreasonable.

The math works like this. In a lot of these things most of the labor is in the setup. The making chips part of the work is pretty quick. So when the batch size is increased (say from 1 to 100) the labor time per rifle would decrease. So lets suppose that the labor hours decreased from 14 hours to 9 hours, with a batch size of 100.

In this admittedly hypothetical rifle factory, the factory owner could make his regular hourly rate and still have $500 dollars per rifle to give to the widow. For most of us in this life $50,000 is nothing to sneer at. ($500/rifleX100 rifles=$50,000) Of course this assumes that the component suppliers in this situation would participate by offering to deliver components Georges production schedule.

Even in this case not all of the benefits would be making his regular hourly rate. I can see some other potential benefits. If the factory owner in question were able to avoid promising any particular delivery date then to some extent he could schedule the work on this batch of rifles around his other work, thus doing at least some of the work in what might otherwise be idle time. Further, there would be no reason that the factory owner could not build some of his regular production on the same setups increasing his margins on those additional rifles. Now add in the good will garnered with the customer base and I think you have a win for all involved.

Of course there is no such thing as a free lunch, and a project like this is going to be a lot of work to get off the ground, and a lot more work to finish it. Many of these jobs (like negotiating vendor participation/delivery and making sure that the Hypothetical did not vanish through employees continuing to run batch sizes of one through inertia and habit) could only be done by the factory owner. This would have to come out of his time, and the energy he puts into his business.

Please note, I have asked no one to do anything, I have only described how I think it could be a good idea if all involved wanted to do it. Now only the factory owner or his accountant could calculate how much money from each rifle might be available Chris Kyle's wife, and only Chris Kyle's wife could decide if she wanted to do this.

Given the "Ventura lawsuit" perhaps prior to setting this up(if it gets to look like it might fly) Graham might comment on the funds being dispensed to a foundation that in it's charter prohibits dispensing any funds in settlement of any lawsuit.
 
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Hey Delta, first I am not seeing anyone take anything away from your friends, or anyone else who died fighting for America. May all of their families find peace, and may they all get the help they need. After I got out of the navy (served my time on a flattop, CVN70 plankowner) I worked my whole career in manufacturing. So even though I am not a gunsmith I do know a little bit about the economics of building things. I guess some of the posters might hope that George would donate all the profit to the Kyle family, but that is not how I see that it should work, if George wanted to do it then here is how I see that it might work. I do not expect George to publish his shop rate so lets just say hypothetically that George has calculated that anytime he can get $100/man hour he is doing ok so that is how he quotes/prices his work. Say in the the build of a typical Gladius he has 14 hours. That's $1,400 per rifle. Out of that he has to pay his workers and their benefits. He has to pay for electric, depreciation of equipment, taxes, and other routine business expenses. Say taken across all the guns he builds those expenses total about $1000/rifle. That leave a profit of about $400 per rifle. Given the avg price of his rifles a little less than %10. I think most of us would agree that is not unreasonable.

The math works like this. In a lot of these things most of the labor is in the setup. The making chips part of the work is pretty quick. So when the batch size is increased (say from 1 to 100) the labor time per rifle would decrease. So lets suppose that the labor hours decreased from 14 hours to 9 hours, with a batch size of 100.

In this admittedly hypothetical rifle factory, the factory owner could make his regular hourly rate and still have $500 dollars per rifle to give to the widow. For most of us in this life $50,000 is nothing to sneer at. ($500/rifleX100 rifles=$50,000) Of course this assumes that the component suppliers in this situation would participate by offering to deliver components Georges production schedule.

Even in this case not all of the benefits would be making his regular hourly rate. I can see some other potential benefits. If the factory owner in question were able to avoid promising any particular delivery date then to some extent he could schedule the work on this batch of rifles around his other work, thus doing at least some of the work in what might otherwise be idle time. Further, there would be no reason that the factory owner could not build some of his regular production on the same setups increasing his margins on those additional rifles. Now add in the good will garnered with the customer base and I think you have a win for all involved.

Of course there is no such thing as a free lunch, and a project like this is going to be a lot of work to get off the ground, and a lot more work to finish it. Many of these jobs (like negotiating vendor participation/delivery and making sure that the Hypothetical did not vanish through employees continuing to run batch sizes of one through inertia and habit) could only be done by the factory owner. This would have to come out of his time, and the energy he puts into his business.

Please note, I have asked no one to do anything, I have only described how I think it could be a good idea if all involved wanted to do it. Now only the factory owner or his accountant could calculate how much money from each rifle might be available Chris Kyle's wife, and only Chris Kyle's wife could decide if she wanted to do this.

Given the "Ventura lawsuit" perhaps prior to setting this up(if it gets to look like it might fly) Graham might comment on the funds being dispensed to a foundation that in it's charter prohibits dispensing any funds in settlement of any lawsuit.

LET IT REST! George didn't take it up in July when this first cropped up. Just let it go...