This is what my rifle is chambered in. It has a 24" tapered barrel. I just wonder what is the maximum range for this rifle? Will it shoot past 1500 yards?
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If shot at an angle it will probably travel 3 miles. Here is some hot vld loads:
1050 -234.9 -21.4 59.2 5.4 1789.4 1.603 1194.3 1.319 232.1 21.1
1100 -267.0 -23.2 65.9 5.7 1734.2 1.553 1121.7 1.404 247.1 21.5
1150 -301.9 -25.1 73.1 6.1 1680.3 1.505 1053.1 1.492 262.6 21.8
1200 -340.0 -27.1 80.9 6.4 1627.8 1.458 988.3 1.583 278.5 22.2
1250 -381.3 -29.1 89.1 6.8 1576.7 1.412 927.2 1.676 295.0 22.5
1300 -426.2 -31.3 97.9 7.2 1527.2 1.368 869.8 1.773 312.0 22.9
1350 -474.7 -33.6 107.2 7.6 1479.2 1.325 816.1 1.873 329.6 23.3
1400 -527.3 -36.0 117.1 8.0 1433.0 1.283 765.9 1.976 347.8 23.7
1450 -584.0 -38.5 127.6 8.4 1388.6 1.244 719.1 2.082 366.5 24.1
1500 -645.3 -41.1 138.7 8.8 1346.1 1.206 675.8 2.192 385.8 24.6
1050 -234.9 -21.4 59.2 5.4 1789.4 1.603 1194.3 1.319 232.1 21.1
1100 -267.0 -23.2 65.9 5.7 1734.2 1.553 1121.7 1.404 247.1 21.5
1150 -301.9 -25.1 73.1 6.1 1680.3 1.505 1053.1 1.492 262.6 21.8
1200 -340.0 -27.1 80.9 6.4 1627.8 1.458 988.3 1.583 278.5 22.2
1250 -381.3 -29.1 89.1 6.8 1576.7 1.412 927.2 1.676 295.0 22.5
1300 -426.2 -31.3 97.9 7.2 1527.2 1.368 869.8 1.773 312.0 22.9
1350 -474.7 -33.6 107.2 7.6 1479.2 1.325 816.1 1.873 329.6 23.3
1400 -527.3 -36.0 117.1 8.0 1433.0 1.283 765.9 1.976 347.8 23.7
1450 -584.0 -38.5 127.6 8.4 1388.6 1.244 719.1 2.082 366.5 24.1
1500 -645.3 -41.1 138.7 8.8 1346.1 1.206 675.8 2.192 385.8 24.6
If I can hit a target at 1500yards with the optics I have I would be elated.
I got My scope Today it is NikkoStirling Gold Crown, It is 4-12X 42MM AO , it has 14 Moa of drop. It will be mounted on a 20 Moa base. That will give me a total of 34 MOA. The Bullets I have are 174 grains, moving at 2271 FPS, they drop 4.33" inches in hundred yards are 64 Moa at 1500. My scope probably doesn't have enough adjustment unless I aim above the target.
It depends.
He would be better served by first learning about the rifle, then learning to shoot it at 100 yards.
That's about the time one finds a lightweight magnum hunting rifle for sale at a good price, with an added half-box of unfired factory ammo.
That's about the time one finds a lightweight magnum hunting rifle for sale at a good price, with an added half-box of unfired factory ammo.
i agree with lost coyote 100%. 2271 is insanely slow. I am shooting 180's out of a 28" tube between 3k and 3050. According to JBM, at my altitude (5000ft ASL), the round doesn't go transonic until 2k yards with a 20.5 mil drop (70 ish MOA). I don't have any verified dope beyond 1200 yards, but the JBM program's solutions are very close to the ranges I have verified.
The round won't have any problem getting out there, but it sounds like your scope/rifle might limit you.
The round won't have any problem getting out there, but it sounds like your scope/rifle might limit you.
My friend and I were shooting at 1791 yards over the weekend and into Monday. He uses a 7mmRM 24" tube and an old 10x Super Sniper I lent him. He connected several times using a 162 amax, Retumbo & Ramshot Magnum. He had 52 or 58 moa dialed up. The 7 will get out there easily but you'll need a good spotter. At 5200 asl that bullet was running out of steam. I found his first mile hit on the ground in front of the steel e type we were shooting. The polymer tip was gone, hollow point opened slightly and nose of the bullet bent and slightly crumpled. As others suggested I'd run JBM using your elevation but I suspect from your location that 1500 might be out of your effective range.
Velcocity is 2771FPS , I can see why many of you are reloaders. My scope and base would never shoot out that far. It was a typo and my rifle would half to moa under one to shoot that far as well. I may just stick to 100 yards and work on accuracy first.
stlswm,
Your rifle can shoot to 2km accurately. The problem in most cases is getting the most out of the shooter, not the rifle.
Reloading is your best option. For those ranges, Berger VLD's are ideal. 168's or 180's. A worthy substitute is the JLK bullets. They were less than the Bergers when I bought them in mass, but less expensive. For a hand made bullet, that's pretty awesome.
I also shoot a lot of 175 and 180 SMK's. Not quite as high of BC (you can see it in the profile of the bullet), but will stabilize better through the transonic range. And save a bunch of money by doing it. That is, if your rifle is twisted tight enough You should have either a 1-9" or 1-9.25" twist in your rifle. Which at the velocities a 7mm Rem Mag can push them is enough. You will probably get better accuracy the second time through with your brass if you neck size only while reloading. The initial firing of any belted magnum, the headspace is on the belt, not the shoulder. That leaves a lot of room for unquantified expansion. By neck sizing, you will headspace off the shoulder. Unwanted Expansion of the case won't be an issue for you then. I load that way for several belted magnums.
Your rifle can shoot to 2km accurately. The problem in most cases is getting the most out of the shooter, not the rifle.
Reloading is your best option. For those ranges, Berger VLD's are ideal. 168's or 180's. A worthy substitute is the JLK bullets. They were less than the Bergers when I bought them in mass, but less expensive. For a hand made bullet, that's pretty awesome.
I also shoot a lot of 175 and 180 SMK's. Not quite as high of BC (you can see it in the profile of the bullet), but will stabilize better through the transonic range. And save a bunch of money by doing it. That is, if your rifle is twisted tight enough You should have either a 1-9" or 1-9.25" twist in your rifle. Which at the velocities a 7mm Rem Mag can push them is enough. You will probably get better accuracy the second time through with your brass if you neck size only while reloading. The initial firing of any belted magnum, the headspace is on the belt, not the shoulder. That leaves a lot of room for unquantified expansion. By neck sizing, you will headspace off the shoulder. Unwanted Expansion of the case won't be an issue for you then. I load that way for several belted magnums.
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MLC you need to try the new powders being made by St.Marks and being sold by Winchester, and Hornandy name brands. Your seven-mag will really shine using Winchesters 860 Supreme and 100V Hornandy powders. These are a new class of powders using a formula that is called Hybrid. You get scary velocities and lower than normal chamber pressures. I have been using the powders in my 8 Mag rifle and the results are real eye-openers. You can add 200 FPS or much more and never come close to max chamber pressure. I am pushing a 200 grain .323 bullet to 3,300 fps with no problem and getting very good case life. Accuracy is sub-MOA out of my 29" barrel.
These powders are now my "go-to" powders for all of my long range shooting. So far, 1,400 yards is no big deal. 2,000 yards is up next.
Desert shooting is so much fun!
These powders are now my "go-to" powders for all of my long range shooting. So far, 1,400 yards is no big deal. 2,000 yards is up next.
Desert shooting is so much fun!
Rob, I will turn my buddy on to them.
He's actually using a Kimber VZ 24 sporter from the 90's.
It has a 24" fluted sporter barrel and will hold MOAish for about 40 rounds if you let it cool before it gets too fouled.
After that I swear you can see Lincolns face in the grooves of the barrel.
He can pummel a 1400 yard e-type with an eye on the wind.
Between the lightweight rifle and the 10X scope a mile is a lot tougher for him than for me with a 22x and 142 Sierra at 3200fps.
stlswm, buy one of the Dads Day super snipers and a 20 MOA base and with practice, solid BC/MV & atmospheric data you should be able to work out past 1K without issue.
He's actually using a Kimber VZ 24 sporter from the 90's.
It has a 24" fluted sporter barrel and will hold MOAish for about 40 rounds if you let it cool before it gets too fouled.
After that I swear you can see Lincolns face in the grooves of the barrel.
He can pummel a 1400 yard e-type with an eye on the wind.
Between the lightweight rifle and the 10X scope a mile is a lot tougher for him than for me with a 22x and 142 Sierra at 3200fps.
stlswm, buy one of the Dads Day super snipers and a 20 MOA base and with practice, solid BC/MV & atmospheric data you should be able to work out past 1K without issue.
With that combo, he will be ringing the bell out to 2,000 yards with no problem.
First of all Savage doesn't recommend that you shoot any larger than a 150 grain bullet from a model 110. My scope can click out 5 revolutions for about 74 MOA of adjustment. If I were using a Privi Partisian which is cheap ammo it would be about a 50" of drop. You really half to know your ballastics to shoot this far. This rifle should shoot an MOA to hit anything at 1500 yards. To build a rifle that could hit a target at 1500 yards for under five hundred dollars that would be something.
I had not gone back and monitored this thread, but I've got to say something here. Savage, to the best of my knowledge, has never made a recommendation that you not shoot heavier than 150 gr. bullets. The twist if the older M110's (1-9.5") is certainly enough to stabilize the 168's, if not the 175's and 180's (because it has enough velocity).
From the first time Savage produced a 7mm Rem mag, they had this twist.
AMMUNITION BULLET WEIGHTS
FOR MORE INFORMATION, PLEASE VISIT OUR WEB SITE AT: Savage Arms
Bullet specifications and trajectories are available directly from the ammunition manufacturer.
The following table lists the bullet weights used for 100 yard targeting evaluation at Savage Arms.
Performance may vary based on brand/type of ammunition, individual characteristics of the firearm,
and/or shooting conditions.
USE ONLY THE CORRECT AMMUNITION THAT IS STAMPED ON THE SIDE OF THE BARREL.
THE USE OF RELOADS, HANDLOADS, MILITARY SURPLUS, OR ANY OTHER COMMERCIAL /
NONCOMMERCIAL AMMUNITION NOT MANUFACTURED TO SAAMI (SPORTING ARMS AND
AMMUNITION MANUFACTURERS’ INSTITUTE, INC.)/ ANSI (AMERICAN NATIONAL
STANDARDS INSTITUTE) SPECIFICATIONS WILL VOID THE WARRANTY.
Caliber
Bullet Weight
(Grains)
7mm Remington Magnum Federal 150 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip
FOR MORE INFORMATION, PLEASE VISIT OUR WEB SITE AT: Savage Arms
Bullet specifications and trajectories are available directly from the ammunition manufacturer.
The following table lists the bullet weights used for 100 yard targeting evaluation at Savage Arms.
Performance may vary based on brand/type of ammunition, individual characteristics of the firearm,
and/or shooting conditions.
USE ONLY THE CORRECT AMMUNITION THAT IS STAMPED ON THE SIDE OF THE BARREL.
THE USE OF RELOADS, HANDLOADS, MILITARY SURPLUS, OR ANY OTHER COMMERCIAL /
NONCOMMERCIAL AMMUNITION NOT MANUFACTURED TO SAAMI (SPORTING ARMS AND
AMMUNITION MANUFACTURERS’ INSTITUTE, INC.)/ ANSI (AMERICAN NATIONAL
STANDARDS INSTITUTE) SPECIFICATIONS WILL VOID THE WARRANTY.
Caliber
Bullet Weight
(Grains)
7mm Remington Magnum Federal 150 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip
stlswm,
I'm not sure if I'm glad or sad you posted that. I never found a top recommended bullet weight for the 7mm Rem Mag. But I did find out ATK is buying Savage. Which is a bad thing IMO. Savage has been doing great, and now I feel they are about to get shelled out. Watch most of the innovative ideas that they've put on the production line disappear.
I'm curious about this topic myself. I recently picked up a 7mm rem mag cheap intending to switch it to 300 win mag for beyond 1000 targets.
I am considering stepping up to a 7 RM on my 284 win. sometime in the new year.
I have enjoyed the performance of the 284 (180 VLD's/175 SMK's @ 2850 fps) but was wondering if going to the 7 RM all that big a jump?
I would need to re-barrel and move up to a magnum bolt which would cost somewhere close to $1500.00 (Surgeon 1086 action).
Is it even worth it?
I have enjoyed the performance of the 284 (180 VLD's/175 SMK's @ 2850 fps) but was wondering if going to the 7 RM all that big a jump?
I would need to re-barrel and move up to a magnum bolt which would cost somewhere close to $1500.00 (Surgeon 1086 action).
Is it even worth it?
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I have a similar rifle to the OP that I bought just for the action. Turns out its a second year Remington 700 ADL (1963) in 7mm Rem mag. My original plan was to turn it into a 300 win mag configured exactly like my 260, but I really like the caliber so far. Thing is amazing accurate even with a skinny hunting style barrel. I think I am going to shoot this barrel out and replace it with another 7mm barrel, only this time a heavy bull contour. Heres a picture of it as I bought it, with a new 20 moa mount and bushnell tactical elite fixed 10 power scope. Boy this sucker kicks like an angry mule tho!
Anyone need a giraud case holder for their 7mm rem mag? Just saw in my toolbox the other day I still have one and I sold my 7 a few years ago. Not trying to peddle, just thought I'd throw it out there since this thread reminded me about it. PM me if you do, don't want to poo the thread.
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