Ok, I know this may be slightly silly, but, anyone have any experience? Loads? Powders? Not a good idea?
.357 semi-wadcutter (soft not cast) in a 9mm?
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Only reason I ask is that I have an ASSLOAD of these bullets and I would like to forgo waiting for 9...
maybe get a cheap Lee push through sizer in .356 to be safe?
second question would be what kind of gun you are shooting them from? I haven't had any luck getting SWC bullets to be remotely reliable in my Glock 9mm.
im hoping the opposite, that my cast 147s come out just big enough to work in 38 plinker loads. of course there are some 158gr 9mm loads floating around...
second question would be what kind of gun you are shooting them from? I haven't had any luck getting SWC bullets to be remotely reliable in my Glock 9mm.
im hoping the opposite, that my cast 147s come out just big enough to work in 38 plinker loads. of course there are some 158gr 9mm loads floating around...
Slug your bore if you haven't already. When I slugged my 9mms, most were .357-.358".
What weight SWC? I am assuming 158. I'd think they would either give an overly long OAL or need to be seated so deep that powder space would be reduced more than I'd like. There are some 158 bullets out there designed for 38 Super with a little shorter length though by putting more mass in the body than the nose.
Something to check- Sometimes when I've tried to use bullets supposedly good for both auto and revolver cartridges (.45 ACP/.45 Colt, .38-40/10mm, etc), that big revolver crimp groove fell right at the case mouth of the auto case. This left the case mouth hanging over air, leaving it's sharp edge to catch and cause malfunctions. Putting a taper crimp on at that point is a touchy thing, since it can easily crimp it too far because there is nothing under the case mouth. Plus, that crimp could wedge the bullet deeper into the case.
As far as feeding, you should be OK unless you have what I just described with the case mouth snag potential. The bullet shape shouldn't hurt. I've used some SWCs (125 and 140 grain) and even an old Lyman design that is more like a wadcutter, and all fed fine.
What weight SWC? I am assuming 158. I'd think they would either give an overly long OAL or need to be seated so deep that powder space would be reduced more than I'd like. There are some 158 bullets out there designed for 38 Super with a little shorter length though by putting more mass in the body than the nose.
Something to check- Sometimes when I've tried to use bullets supposedly good for both auto and revolver cartridges (.45 ACP/.45 Colt, .38-40/10mm, etc), that big revolver crimp groove fell right at the case mouth of the auto case. This left the case mouth hanging over air, leaving it's sharp edge to catch and cause malfunctions. Putting a taper crimp on at that point is a touchy thing, since it can easily crimp it too far because there is nothing under the case mouth. Plus, that crimp could wedge the bullet deeper into the case.
As far as feeding, you should be OK unless you have what I just described with the case mouth snag potential. The bullet shape shouldn't hurt. I've used some SWCs (125 and 140 grain) and even an old Lyman design that is more like a wadcutter, and all fed fine.
What does "soft not cast" mean?
What is the bore diameter in your 9mm and what size cast bullets are the 158s?
You might be able to make them work if they feed and chamber all the way. You can try tite group, unique for powder. Do some googlefu there are people out there who done it before.
What is the bore diameter in your 9mm and what size cast bullets are the 158s?
You might be able to make them work if they feed and chamber all the way. You can try tite group, unique for powder. Do some googlefu there are people out there who done it before.
Barry in IN has it 100% correct as well. MOST 9mm barrel seem to be FAR closer to .357"/.358" today, than the more usually encountered .355"/.356" of thirty years back.
I shoot quite a few 130 gr RF cast slugs out of my SIG 226 and X-5 w a Bar Sto barrel. I size them to .358" and get great accuracy and minimal leading.
To the OP...Why not simply trade off your slugs and get something more applicable to a 9mm?
FN in MT
I shoot quite a few 130 gr RF cast slugs out of my SIG 226 and X-5 w a Bar Sto barrel. I size them to .358" and get great accuracy and minimal leading.
To the OP...Why not simply trade off your slugs and get something more applicable to a 9mm?
FN in MT
A lot of super heavy 9mm loads have been used with SWC 38 bullets in both carbines and some pistols for shooting bowling pins. 3.0g HP38 or 4.0 HS6 should get you around 800fps. I'd tend to lean toward the slower HS6 myself and start at 3.6 g and check the velocity. Some of the older manuals have data for heavy loads.
Your size .357 should be fine. My son shoots .358s in his Firestar.
.002" over groove size for a lead bullet is OK.
Your size .357 should be fine. My son shoots .358s in his Firestar.
.002" over groove size for a lead bullet is OK.
