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Suppressors Suppressor or not?

Night Eagle

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I was at the fort worth gun show this weekend and a vender there was selling these attachments that thread onto a barrel on the inside and are threaded to an oil filter on the other side. They had them for multiple calibers. They of course were marketing them as cleaning attachments for a rifle.

So I understand if u put the oil filter on and try to use it as a suppressor then it is a suppressor. But is the attachment considered a suppressor or even a class 3 item?

Thanks in advance for answered and opinions
 
With the complete sketchy nature of it. I'd avoid it like the plague.
 
A fool and his firearms are easily parted. But he will usually part first with his money.
 
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yea, there was a huge long line, and they were making money hand over fist. but that wasn't my question....is the darn thing considerd a class 3 item?
 
Was there a nice man (Fed) taking names and photos of the lemmings?


Those require an F4 and $200 for processing.
 
By the definition of a silencer in the NFA Handbook, absolutely, this oil filter adapter is considered a silencer. Big ol' fine and perhaps jail for using the part to quite your gun without proper approval.

From the NFA Handbook:
1.1.3 Firearm Owners’ Protection Act. In 1986, this Act amended the NFA definition of “silencer”
by adding combinations of parts for silencers and any part intended for use in the assembly or
fabrication of a silencer. The Act also amended the GCA to prohibit the transfer or possession of
machineguns. Exceptions were made for transfers of machineguns to, or possession of machineguns
by, government agencies, and those lawfully possessed before the effective date of the prohibition, May
19, 1986.

2.1.7 Silencer. A firearm silencer and a firearm muffler are defined as any device for silencing,
muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm. Firearm silencers are generally composed of
an outer tube, internal baffles, a front end cap, and a rear end cap.
The definition of a silencer also includes any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended
for use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler.
The following illustration depicts parts that are designed and intended for use in assembling a firearm
silencer. Another example of parts redesigned and intended for use in assembling or fabricating a
firearm silencer are automotive engine freeze plugs that have been modified by drilling a hole through
their center to permit passage of a bullet.

Also included within the silencer definition is any part intended only for use in the assembly or
fabrication of a firearm silencer.

NOTE: the language in the definition of silencer contains no provisions that permit an owner of a
registered silencer to possess spare or replacement components for the silencer. However, licensed
manufacturers who are SOTs may possess spare silencer components in conjunction with their
manufacturing operations.

Any questions? Bad, bad, bad idea to use without approval.
 
The guy that first began selling those specifically stated that a form 4 was required.
 
I was at the fort worth gun show this weekend and a vender there was selling these attachments that thread onto a barrel on the inside and are threaded to an oil filter on the other side. They had them for multiple calibers. They of course were marketing them as cleaning attachments for a rifle.

So I understand if u put the oil filter on and try to use it as a suppressor then it is a suppressor. But is the attachment considered a suppressor or even a class 3 item?

Thanks in advance for answered and opinions


Using these as a silencer (without a stamp) is good for a long trip to prison. The risk vs reward does NOT add up here.
 
i got jumped over on THR about how i was shocked that people still sold these and other people bought them. to me it was a completely stupid game of "they're solvent traps *nudge* nudge* wink*wink*" and you would have thought i killed puppy dogs when i suggested that the ATF could interpret them as being used for nefarious reasons.

i think its all bad. and i am staying away from it.


these are not to be confused with the econo-cans that are made by a legitimate firearms manufacturing license holder and are serialized and need Form 4s. i think what the OP is talking about is someone turning and threading some tube stock on their lathe at home and selling them as solvent trap adapters.
 
These guys are even selling them on Amazon as solvent traps. To me it does not seem like it would be worth the risk of possessing one of these suckers. 10 years in federal pound me in the ass prison all to save $200 no thanks! I have spent $200 on dumber stuff than tax stamps.
 
I saw the same thing for sale in a gun magazine several weeks ago. To catch your cleaning solvent. They even had a web site to order the things. Said the ATF approved the use for cleaning, etc. I went the tax stamp route.
 
What kind of an idiot would want to shoot through an oil filter anyway?!!
 
I saw the same thing for sale in a gun magazine several weeks ago. To catch your cleaning solvent. They even had a web site to order the things. Said the ATF approved the use for cleaning, etc. I went the tax stamp route.

I don't think the ATF approves cleaning devices. What magazine? That is irresponsible in my book. Don't do it.
 
I saw the same thing for sale in a gun magazine several weeks ago. To catch your cleaning solvent. They even had a web site to order the things. Said the ATF approved the use for cleaning, etc. I went the tax stamp route.

Probably have an opinion letter from the ATF stating that you can have a device that attaches a solvent catch to the barrel without requiring a tax stamp. Should be "okay" as long as there isn't a hole in the end of the catch. I wouldn't buy one anyway.
 
last gun show I went to this guy sold "solvent traps" that went onto your barrel either threaded or had a set screw (for 22lr) and then you screw on a oil filter... and his company is in california... my dad contacted the police there and they said they couldn't really do anything. So he called the ATF and they said they'd look into it. Oh and everyone knows that you can fit maybe 10 patches before the filter is full of patches. this is the gray area and its not something I'm risking to go to prison or not.
 
In the econo-can world the oil filter itself is also considered a suppressor. In other words when you want to replace the filter, that's another F4 and $200. See 2.1.7 above. Econo is not the word I would use. Solvent trap? Yea, more like stupid trap.
 
last gun show I went to this guy sold "solvent traps" that went onto your barrel either threaded or had a set screw (for 22lr) and then you screw on a oil filter... and his company is in california... my dad contacted the police there and they said they couldn't really do anything. So he called the ATF and they said they'd look into it. Oh and everyone knows that you can fit maybe 10 patches before the filter is full of patches. this is the gray area and its not something I'm risking to go to prison or not.

Your dad contacted the police because someone was selling solvent traps?