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285 gr .338" A-Max

In-stock @ Grafs currently, I was on the phone with them this morning and they confirmed it being available.


Hornady lists the BC to be equivalent to their 285gr BTHP Match bullet. Perhaps it's a True G1 0.72 instead of the 0.69 that the BTHP comes out at. The controlled geometry of the tip should be a pretty good benefit to the BC if they didn't change anything else.
 
I shot them at the 1K Nationals and while I didn't do part from years of not shooting they held .250-.350 MOA of vertical at that distance. I know some of what went into the bullet and the new tip allows the manufacturing of a much more uniform bullet. It's a goodun.
 
I humbly stand corrected. My boot leather tastes bad and I think I may check what I just stepped in before I stick my foot in my mouth next time. Guess I'd best try and round some up and give them a spin. S.
 
I shot them at the 1K Nationals and while I didn't do part from years of not shooting they held .250-.350 MOA of vertical at that distance. I know some of what went into the bullet and the new tip allows the manufacturing of a much more uniform bullet. It's a goodun.

Now that sounds very promising.
 
I humbly stand corrected. My boot leather tastes bad and I think I may check what I just stepped in before I stick my foot in my mouth next time. Guess I'd best try and round some up and give them a spin. S.


Hahaha, I like the sense of humor. You're right to be skeptical, all too often your initial suspicion would have been dead nuts.
 
Now what will happen is since I've given most of my stash away to some undesirable types I'll go looking for more and they'll be unobtainium. Still a big step towards a great 338 bullet. Time will tell.
 
Graf's is now out of stock, but thanks for the heads up and what looks to be a very promising new 338 bullet! Will be on the lookout for these.
 
Well Graf and sons did good. Seventy six and a half hours later the brown truck delivered loooong shiny projectiles. Did I mention those things are long? Long enough to write a letter home.Make a 300smk look short.
I have been shooting the 250 Scenars exclusively for a couple of years. Time for more experimentation.
 
I ordered some from Midway and they should be here on Friday. I will get some loaded up over H1000 and play with them. I have an HS Precision 338 Lapua which uses H1000/300 Berger at 2760 over the Oehler. It's a 1-10 twist so I am looking forward to trying these. Hopefully 2800FPS is a good node.
 
can someone please post some pics, a side by side sierra/hornady would by nice.
 
250gn Berger Elite, 300gn Berger OTM and to the right is the new 285gn Hornady A-MAX
 

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looks like the BC will be somewhere in between the 250gr and 300gr Berger.
 
looks like the BC will be somewhere in between the 250gr and 300gr Berger.

0.68 for the 250 berger. 0.81 for the 300 berger so the 0.72 advertised BC for the 285gn Hornady A-Max sounds about right looking at the three of them next to each other. It will get you in the ball park. Then adjust as required for your own particular rifle.
 
Can you push a 285 grain bullet fast enough to make up for the lower BC? If I am getting 2750 with a 300 Hybrid, how fast should I expect top be able to send a 285?

Just Curious.

-J
 
Can you push a 285 grain bullet fast enough to make up for the lower BC? If I am getting 2750 with a 300 Hybrid, how fast should I expect top be able to send a 285?

Just Curious.

-J

Soon I will be testing the 250, 300 EH & the 285 Amax in a light weight 26" Edge, time will tell.
 
I'm ladder testing the 285gr bullets right now in my 338 Norma Mag. I will report back how they fly.
 
I'm ladder testing the 285gr bullets right now in my 338 Norma Mag. I will report back how they fly.

I'll look forward to seeing that. I just got my 338NM all built.

I'm looking for all the 338NM info I can find.
 
Hmm. Might have to let go of 250 or so of my 300gr otm's if these shoot well. Many have raved about the bthp version as far as accuracy is concerned. It was the low bc that turned me off. If these are anywhere over .7 I'm working up a load for them. I like my Bergers, but I love the amax design.

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I'm ladder testing the 285gr bullets right now in my 338 Norma Mag. I will report back how they fly.
Well its a new day, chop chop how did they do. I'm interested in what the norma does with them as well, since mine just got back from a rebarrel.
 
Well its a new day, chop chop how did they do. I'm interested in what the norma does with them as well, since mine just got back from a rebarrel.

Its 25 degrees here, I have a sinus infection, and I'm stuck at work! If I have some daylight later on I will try and do the test this week. We are hoping to be around 2900-2950 within the accuracy node.

Will report back when I have the data.
 
Anyone any load data for this bulet for the 338 lapua. It would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks
Joe
 
Its 25 degrees here, I have a sinus infection, and I'm stuck at work! If I have some daylight later on I will try and do the test this week. We are hoping to be around 2900-2950 within the accuracy node.

Will report back when I have the data.

Feel better soon, looking forward to see results; heard of good reports but no hard facts so far.
 
Hi guys

For what it is worth, tried the 285 AMAX/H1000 in a TRG 42 .338LM, 27 1/4 barrel, 1-10 twist. I am not a pro, just a guy who reloads and likes to shoot, including ELR.
Loaded at Hornady Manual specs for length (had nothing on the AMAX, so used specs for 285 BTHP). Sized up the first one with micrometer for proper Manual COAL, then using that first loaded round, measured it OTB for all other rounds (better consistency, hope I make sens).
Weighted bullets, as AMAX have more of a weight difference than, let's say, Berger. All bullets in that test were between 284.8 and 285.2.
Went conservative on loads, nothing real hot; Lapua brass (5 reloads, annealed), CCI 250 primers.
86 gr, 87 gr, 88 gr and 89 gr; did not use Chronograph yet but will do next session.
I know of the controversy between load development at 100 yards, or 300, 1000 or whatever one's think is right but just take it as it comes, just basic info. For the record, I contacted Berger Bullets Tech Support a while ago and they recommend load development at 100 yards/meters; some will strongly disagree...and I wish I knew the right answer.
Loaded 10 rounds for each load; best 5 shots groups were both with 87 gr of H1000. For the ones who like numbers, first group was .2, the other .5; this was done at 100 yards, so it may not mean much further out but planning on finding out. If this load can take the 285 at a mile accurately, I'll be happy but we know by experience that what happens at shorter range sometimes does not match what happens 1600 yards further out...and once again, I wish it did, would make our lives easier ;)
As the Hornady Manual gives 87. something of H1000 in a 26" barrel, at 2700 fps, I am assuming that the bullets were close to that, in the slightly longer TRG's barrel, will find out for sure next time, when using chronograph.
Not that this will make anybody else's load development easier but this is my short experience with the 285 AMAX and H1000.

Good shooting to all.
 
well just got back from the range and im extremely happy with how these performed during the ladder test. I would like to do a ladder around 600 yds, but our range is 400 and thats just what i have to work with..

loaded up with .5 increments from 87.5 through 92 grains of H1000

i did not have 3 consecutive increments/shot that were more than a 2 inch vertical spread (1/2 moa), and i had 2 different groups of 3 that were an inch or less of vertical thread (1/4 moa)


ive been shooting the 285 match bullets and the higher node for these amax's were basically same area that the match bullets were in my gun. Cant wait to get back and finish testing these out.
 
ghost

Looking forward to see what you will be coming up with; what are your rifle's specs?
A friend of mine wants to go shoot a mile real bad soon, he has a new SAC .338LM; I may load 20 rounds at same specs as my best 2 groups with 285 AMAX/H1000 and go mess around with him. I usually go step by step but...can't let a friend shoot by himself ;)
 
Just a stock savage 110 BA

Lapua brass made a world of difference in this gun.


Ill have some more info if I can get a friend to go back with me tomorrow...let him pay for gas haha
 
Anybody done any more testing of this bullet in .338 LM? I am about to pull the trigger on a 100 to do load work-up. I would love to hear somebody's thoughts on how this bullet compares to the Berger 300 OTM at distances past 1500 meters.

-J
 
Anybody done any more testing of this bullet in .338 LM? I am about to pull the trigger on a 100 to do load work-up. I would love to hear somebody's thoughts on how this bullet compares to the Berger 300 OTM at distances past 1500 meters.

-J

I hope someone will; got distracted shooting my ol'Mosin at stupid distances and this brought up more load development for the x54r, bla...bla... Eventually will get back on track with the .338. Too much to do, mostly fun, not enough time ;)
 
Anybody done any more testing of this bullet in .338 LM? I am about to pull the trigger on a 100 to do load work-up. I would love to hear somebody's thoughts on how this bullet compares to the Berger 300 OTM at distances past 1500 meters.

-J

I've shot it as far as 600 yards so no empirical drop data yet. They group well out of my 10 twist barrel...as good as the 300 OTMs. However, I was hoping for more velocity than I am getting. The same 92 grain charge of H1000 showed about 15 fps LESS velocity than the 300 OTMs and the 300 SMKs. Anything faster than this resulted in the the groups opening up considerably and the typical pressure signs I see with other 300 grain bullets. I was hoping that I could push them a little faster to make up for the lesser advertised BC. Any thoughts on why this is?

If the weather cooperates, I should have them to a mile within the next week. I'll post results when I do.
 
I've shot it as far as 600 yards so no empirical drop data yet. They group well out of my 10 twist barrel...as good as the 300 OTMs. However, I was hoping for more velocity than I am getting. The same 92 grain charge of H1000 showed about 15 fps LESS velocity than the 300 OTMs and the 300 SMKs. Anything faster than this resulted in the the groups opening up considerably and the typical pressure signs I see with other 300 grain bullets. I was hoping that I could push them a little faster to make up for the lesser advertised BC. Any thoughts on why this is?

If the weather cooperates, I should have them to a mile within the next week. I'll post results when I do.

Looking forward to see how they'll work for you. Got a 1:10 twist barrel too, 27 1/4 long (TRG 42).
Good shooting to you.
 
I have heard that they are very soft wonder if this is why your not getting the velocity you wanted?