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Woman accidentally shoots herself with 500S&W, REALLY?

#2
I would say Darwinism at its best, but surely the gun belonged to someone else and they were dumb enough to load more than one round in the cylinder. Stupidity is tragic sometimes..

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#3
There's a vid on YouTube or the like of what can happen with a 500S&W in the hands of an inexperienced or otherwise "uneducated" shooter. In the vid (which I couldn't find for the life of me but I think its been posted on the Hide before) a younger woman is handed the revolver with folks joking and laughing all around her waiting to see what happens (and of course, nobody thought to give her 2secs of instruction or to otherwise only load ONE @#$%ING ROUND in the cylinder because then it wouldn't be as funny or YouTube-worthy). She squeezes off the first round and then, when the pistol recoils and she loses control of it, a second round fires in mid-recoil with the muzzle pointing back in her general direction. She avoided being shot thankfully, but I can see it happening when the recoil is bad enough and the shooter loses it where they could get a second round to the head. Sad that poor girl in the linked article died, BUT arguably completely avoidable if what they are saying happened actually did happen.

Here is one such vid I did find where the little gal squeezing the trigger shoots the initial shot and upon recoil at about 12 o'clock or so (nearly straight up in the air), the revolver fires a second, unintended time. Girl Double Taps SW 500 Revolver | Military.com

SAD!!
 
#4
In my 25 plus years of shooting, I had never seen or heard of a revolver going off like that. With the long trigger pull on a revolver, I would not have been worried about a second shot going off accidentally.

When taking people out shooting for the first time, I generally only load one round at a time and I never give a new shooter a hard recoiling pistol or rifle to shoot.
 
#6
If I recall correctly, there was some official discussion about this when S&W introduced the 500. Get that much recoil and momentum started, and it can do some pretty wild things. Cylinder stops bouncing out of the notches and allowing the gun to rotate to the next chamber, hammer bounce, all kinds of nasty things that just don't happen with lighter recoiling guns. Not sure, but I believe this is (at least in part) what led to some of S&W's redesign work in some areas of these guns.

Anybody else recall anything about that?
 
#9
I don't mean simply to argue here, but this appears to have been a tragic accident and not a case of Darwinism. The firearms was reportedly being used in the manner intended by the manufacturer and no fundamental gun safety rules were violated.


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#10
I know there are a lot of idiots out there, see them all the time at our local range. Having a first time shooter fire off the mighty 500S&W is pure stupidity and the moron that handed her that gun will have to live with himself until he meets his demise. When I had my wife shoot my Redhawk, the very first firearm she ever shot I had it loaded with 44 Special loads, I'd never have her shoot it with the 330 hardcast loads I have now that come out at 1400fps until she felt she was ready for such a load. She does shoot her GP100 very well with a moderately hot load, though.
 
#12
If this was a 500S&W I would think the recoil would carry the revolver over her head instead of having the bore pointed at her forehead or her chin, at most the barrel would hit her on the top of her head.
 
#13
Graham said:
I don't mean simply to argue here, but this appears to have been a tragic accident and not a case of Darwinism. The firearms was reportedly being used in the manner intended by the manufacturer and no fundamental gun safety rules were violated.


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I disagree. I think one of the major fundamentals of firearm safety is KNOW THE HAZARDS and TAKING APPROPRIATE CONTROLS for the HAZARDS.

For instance, if a person is handed a weapon they know NOTHING about, it would be fundamental to give them some training on it by a COMPETENT instructor. If the competent instructor FAILS in providing them awareness and assessing their level of control then it would be a FUNDAMENTAL FAILURE OF BASIC FIREARMS SAFETY.

That may just be MY thinking though. I believe it would be IRRESPONSIBLE to put a tool or weapon in someone's hands if they cannot control it appropriately.

Like loaning out a super-bike to someone who has no idea how to ride a bicycle. Or giving a child a pistol at an Iraqi wedding to shoot off (you tube).

Sure firearms are a right, but, with ownership comes responsibility. I am betting she didn't own the weapon, hence the responsibility is on HER's to say "Whoa. WTF is this thing?" as well as someone else's plate who should have assessed the risk, hazard and potential controls better than: "Here ya go darling. Give this a squeeze." "Heh-heh watch this boys!"

I could be wrong though.

~Will
 
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#14
RMW said:
In my 25 plus years of shooting, I had never seen or heard of a revolver going off like that. With the long trigger pull on a revolver, I would not have been worried about a second shot going off accidentally.

When taking people out shooting for the first time, I generally only load one round at a time and I never give a new shooter a hard recoiling pistol or rifle to shoot.
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In 25 years of shooting, you've never heard of this? I think that shows a problem. People think these 500s, 460s, and etc. are firearms like a .357 or .44 mag - they are not. When you get into these extremely large calibers I like to refer to them as dealing with a cannon in your hand. They are much thicker framed and the concussion is unbelievable.

The moron here is not the girl, it's the dumb person who handed her the gun to shoot. She shouldn't have shot that. She didn't know what she was dealing with.

Double taps with these are far from a new thing:

.50 Caliber Smith & Wesson 500 Magnum Revolver - Double Fire? - YouTube
500 S&W Magnum double fire - YouTube
500 s&w Novice shooter double fires 500 s&w - YouTube
FULL AUTO 500 S&W - YouTube


And there are plenty more than those. Look at the last one in particular. Look how close the muzzle got to her face. That's probably exactly how the tragedy happened


The recoil of the gun + novice hand = double fires
 
#15
I have witnessed and experienced this in both a 329pd 44 mag firing stout 300 xtp loads with cold hands and a smith and wesson performance center 500. Both were bought used, both had smith work done on triggers( 3lb single action and 8 double action). Both were sent back to smith under warranty and deemed to need replacement trigger components although both trigger jobs were done at the performance center. They can truely be a handful and should not be given to a novice to use for amusement. Common sense really needs to apply when dealing with the big bore handguns.. it is just too bad that it is increasingly uncommon
 
#18
I honestly don't see what's so fucking funny about giving an inexperienced shooter a hard kicking gun just for the sole purpose of entertainment. Case in point the morons who hang out at Knob Creek and give their 5 year old kids full auto AKs and then laugh when the gun fires all over the place. Not only can it cause injury or death, but can also scare new shooters away from guns in general and turn them into antis.
 
#20
Maser said:
I honestly don't see what's so fucking funny about giving an inexperienced shooter a hard kicking gun just for the sole purpose of entertainment. Case in point the morons who hang out at Knob Creek and give their 5 year old kids full auto AKs and then laugh when the gun fires all over the place. Not only can it cause injury or death, but can also scare new shooters away from guns in general and turn them into antis.
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says the douche canoe wearing a diaper
 
#21
RMW said:
In my 25 plus years of shooting, I had never seen or heard of a revolver going off like that. With the long trigger pull on a revolver, I would not have been worried about a second shot going off accidentally.

When taking people out shooting for the first time, I generally only load one round at a time and I never give a new shooter a hard recoiling pistol or rifle to shoot.
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As the videos show it does happen. This has been a very well documented phenomenon with big bore revolvers. From Day one there have been reports of the 500 S&W doing this. It truly is not a gun for the novice. Also, limp wrist a Desert Eagle (44 or 50) and that front sight will be embedded in your forehead faster than you can blink.


Desert Eagle .50 Fail - YouTube
 
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