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Suppressors 300AAC suppressor for 8.5" 1:7

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Ok so my new 300 AAC build has a CMMG 8.5" 1:7 twist barrel. I would like to run a can on it with the 220gr loads but dont want a baffle strike. Do you think its safe? Im sure supersonics will be fine just a little worried about the heavy bullets. Also should I run just a .30 cal can or maybe get a .45 pistol can for the sub sonics?
 
I have looked into a suppressor for my 7.5" 5.56. Turns out there are few companies that will warranty a barrel that short. I would make sure they will warranty a barrel that short before buying.
 
You will have to test your individual barrel with the load you want to shoot. Shoot at least 20 rounds on paper at various ranges and make sure the bullet holes are round. Don't assume that because the 220's will stabilize that anything shorter will also stabilize. I've had several 10" or less barrels before I finally settled on my current 9" barrel that seems to keep the bullets flying true. I had a barrel that would adequately stabilize 208's but 150 Noslers would hit sideways at 100 yards. I have not had a baffle strike shooting through my AAC Cyclone, but that's not to say it still couldn't happen someday. Definitely get a 30 cal can. Someday you will realize that supersonics are far more useful for a variety of reasons and you will want the ability to shoot them.
 
Are you talking about 300 Blackout? They were designed to be ran subsonic. So your 8.5" barrel will be pretty snappy with supersonic ammo. You also may blow some primers with a can attached. A 9mm can is deal for the subsonic loads only. A 30cal can will handle everything else, just make sure not to use Ti suppressors with an SBR.
 
Yea I know the round is designed for subsonic, the main concern is if the 1:7 twist can stabilize a 220 gr bullet in 8.5" or not. Pretty much wondering who has done a suppressed 300 SBR on here lol.
 
Are you talking about 300 Blackout? They were designed to be ran subsonic. So your 8.5" barrel will be pretty snappy with supersonic ammo. You also may blow some primers with a can attached. A 9mm can is deal for the subsonic loads only. A 30cal can will handle everything else, just make sure not to use Ti suppressors with an SBR.


There is nothing wrong with using a Ti suppressor with the 300 BO round, super or subsonic, since the round was designed to burn its powder fully in a 9" barrel. i use an 8.5" Rock Creek barrel with a brake attached TBAC 30BA can. This round is not like 5.56 where erosion is expedited with a short barrel. later this month, ill run my TTF Ark30 on it, a Ti can designed for the 300 BO.
 
Yea I know the round is designed for subsonic, the main concern is if the 1:7 twist can stabilize a 220 gr bullet in 8.5" or not. Pretty much wondering who has done a suppressed 300 SBR on here lol.

yes they will run it.
 
There is nothing wrong with using a Ti suppressor with the 300 BO round, super or subsonic, since the round was designed to burn its powder fully in a 9" barrel. i use an 8.5" Rock Creek barrel with a brake attached TBAC 30BA can. This round is not like 5.56 where erosion is expedited with a short barrel. later this month, ill run my TTF Ark30 on it, a Ti can designed for the 300 BO.


I'm not starting up this debate again. It matters only on the platform. A FA with short barrel will generate some serious heat in a few mags. Thats the nature of gas expansion in a SBR with suppressor.
Doesn't matter if its 223, 300 BO, 7.62 or whatever. Supersonic ammunition will cause heat built up. The 300 BO was designed as a SUBSONIC CQB platform. That is straight from Remington/AAC and their military trials.

Ti on a subsonic platform is fine. But when you strap it to a SBR with full house loads, it will build up heat and Ti does not dissipate heat well under a constant load. This has been tested, retested, and tested again.
I have the same upper the OP is talking about. With my AAC 762SD-N6 and supersonic ammo it gets considerable more loud and primers will bust. With subsonic it's as reliable as a Glock.
 
I've got to agree with the above.



My rifle has been very reliable suppressed with supersonics, but it also throws a huge flameball that I wouldn't want to take the chance of screwing up a suppressor that isn't rated for it.
 
Yea I know the round is designed for subsonic, the main concern is if the 1:7 twist can stabilize a 220 gr bullet in 8.5" or not. Pretty much wondering who has done a suppressed 300 SBR on here lol.

I have been running an SDN-6 with 220s out of the AAC 9 inch bbl for a few years now without problems.
 
Let me also state that the reason supersonic will have such a tough time in these shorter barrels (8.5" and 9") is because of the pistol length gas systems they use to cycle the subs. With the can on they get a slight boost in gas movement and it actually helps the cyclic rate.
Take that can off and run supers and you should be ok but reliability will suffer. Put the can on, blown primers will occur.
 
Let me also state that the reason supersonic will have such a tough time in these shorter barrels (8.5" and 9") is because of the pistol length gas systems they use to cycle the subs. With the can on they get a slight boost in gas movement and it actually helps the cyclic rate.
Take that can off and run supers and you should be ok but reliability will suffer. Put the can on, blown primers will occur.

The only time I've had a blown primer was when I essentially made a 300 BLK sized pipe bomb experimenting with 208 Amax and Red Dot. My supersonic load is fairly hot. It gets 2150 fps out of a 9" barrel. I can cram 20 grains of 300 MP under a 110 Vmax. I've shot 500-1000 of these with and without the suppressor and have never had a failure. This is not a big sample size, and it's only one barrel, but there it is.

The rifle will cycle a fairly light subsonic load of 8.6 grains VVN110 under a 208 Amax without the can, but will not lock the bolt back. With the can on, it is reliable and pleasant to shoot with more of a push/shove recoil vs. the harsh slamming of the supersonic loads.

Obviously all rifles are different, and your gas port may be a different size, the gas block may not be lined up perfectly (or maybe mine isn't) and so many other variables that could affect reliability.
 
So is there a lot more recoil with a pistol length gas system and supersonic loads vs a 16 inch barrel and longer gas system?
 
Are you talking about 300 Blackout? They were designed to be ran subsonic. So your 8.5" barrel will be pretty snappy with supersonic ammo. You also may blow some primers with a can attached. A 9mm can is deal for the subsonic loads only. A 30cal can will handle everything else, just make sure not to use Ti suppressors with an SBR.
Why not to use Ti Suppressors with SBR?
 
KYS I know youre probably one of the most well versed in cans on this board but just my opinion, the 300BLk is a totally different animal than any other. It uses pistol powder so most of the powder is done by 9" thus the relatively small gain in velocity from 9 to 16". My 30 cal can right now is a yhm ti qd and it is working just fine with the 300blk. Ive dumped a 30rd mag pretty fast in my 16" and I could still take the can off my hand. It was damn warm but nothing even close to 5 rounds of 308. Ive also ran my can on my buddys 8.2" pistol with no problems. 300BLK is one rifle caliber that can get by just fine with a titanium can on an SBR. I dont own a FA so I cant attest to doing mag dumps. Maybe my can will blow up the next time I use it but its seen a lot of abuse up to 10 shots of hot 300WM in 2 minutes multiple times and hundreds of 308 rounds through it. 300BLK by far is the easiest on it. On my buddys pistol subs were more quiet than mine, and I couldnt tell any difference supersonic wise. My supersonic load is 20gr of H110 under 110gr vmax which is about as hot as ypu can get 300blk and with well over 2k worth of 300blk through it, its still kickin just fine.

If the online reports are correct I should have my eform 1 back this week or next then I can test out the 9" aac barrel myself.
 
Why not to use Ti Suppressors with SBR?

Titanium doesnt handle heat as well as the other materials and generally speaking SBRs creat a lot of heat in the cans because all the powder isnt burnt before the bullet makes it out of the muzzle. The 300blk is different though as it uses magnum pistol powder that is burnt up very quickly so it doesnt get barrels or cans nearly as hot as other rifke cartridges. If the OP was talking about a 6.8 sure but the 300blk is a totally different animal. Just my opinion.
 
Titanium doesnt handle heat as well as the other materials and generally speaking SBRs creat a lot of heat in the cans because all the powder isnt burnt before the bullet makes it out of the muzzle. The 300blk is different though as it uses magnum pistol powder that is burnt up very quickly so it doesnt get barrels or cans nearly as hot as other rifke cartridges. If the OP was talking about a 6.8 sure but the 300blk is a totally different animal. Just my opinion.

Let me be clear. I did not say you cant use a Ti can on a SUBSONIC 300BLK build. I said you could see blown primers if you run supersonic ammo + a suppressor on a short barrel that utilizes a pistol length gas system. I have had it happen to me, AAC warns you in the user manual, it's a fact!

In subsonic form the 300BLK does not put off a lot of heat, that is correct be we were discussing two different loads.
 
Let me be clear. I did not say you cant use a Ti can on a SUBSONIC 300BLK build. I said you could see blown primers if you run supersonic ammo + a suppressor on a short barrel that utilizes a pistol length gas system. I have had it happen to me, AAC warns you in the user manual, it's a fact!

In subsonic form the 300BLK does not put off a lot of heat, that is correct be we were discussing two different loads.

Youre in the minority then, there are TONS of people running suppressed SBRs with supers. My buddys pistol is a 7 twist noveske and worked fine with my 17.6gr 147, 19gr 125 and 20gr 110 loads, no problem. My barrel is a 9" 7 twist aac so I'll test it here shortly with any luck. Also depends on what powder youre using, lil gun ia very finicky once you get into the higher pressures so much so that a hot chamber could lead to popped primers. Soundsmore like an isolated issue with your setup, way too many people doing exactly what I'm talking about with commercial and handload ammo with no problems for this to be some big issue.
 
Youre in the minority then, there are TONS of people running suppressed SBRs with supers. My buddys pistol is a 7 twist noveske and worked fine with my 17.6gr 147, 19gr 125 and 20gr 110 loads, no problem. My barrel is a 9" 7 twist aac so I'll test it here shortly with any luck. Also depends on what powder youre using, lil gun ia very finicky once you get into the higher pressures so much so that a hot chamber could lead to popped primers. Soundsmore like an isolated issue with your setup, way too many people doing exactly what I'm talking about with commercial and handload ammo with no problems for this to be some big issue.

We are not talking about just reloads. We are talking factory ammo because that is all that some people have access to getting. I have a mountain of Remington 220gr subsonic and a few others. I bought it all before the craze hit and I got it super cheap.
You cant just sit here and claim that every upper + suppressors combo will work. You have the ability to tune your ammo. Guys depending on factory ammo cant tweak it to suit their gun.

Its not an isolated issue when AAC posts a disclaimer about the 9" uppers + 762SD-N6 cans causing the issues. Do you think I would make this up?!
 
Im not calling you liar, calm down. Im simply saying that I've been a member on 300blktalk for a good while now and never read about constant problems with sbrs running supers with a can as well my own experience albeit not with an aac barrel and an sdn6 but a noveske and my phantom. Im very interested in this because I've got a 9" aac barrel on order. Tons of guys do it with factory ammo and no problems so I'm confused as to what is the common denominator here. Is it that the aac barrels have a bigger gas port compared to others? I dont know.

my reloads are hotter than factory ammo by at least 50fps so my reloads would make the problem youre describing worse.
 
Im not calling you liar, calm down. Im simply saying that I've been a member on 300blktalk for a good while now and never read about constant problems with sbrs running supers with a can as well my own experience albeit not with an aac barrel and an sdn6 but a noveske and my phantom. Im very interested in this because I've got a 9" aac barrel on order. Tons of guys do it with factory ammo and no problems so I'm confused as to what is the common denominator here. Is it that the aac barrels have a bigger gas port compared to others? I dont know.

my reloads are hotter than factory ammo by at least 50fps so my reloads would make the problem youre describing worse.

maybe AAC barrels have a smaller gas port, which would give the gas and pressure in the barrel less of a chance to travel back though the gas tube. he isnt popping primers because his gun is over gassed through the gas tube. the primer pop would be a combo of small gas port, restrictive can holding higher back pressures inside the barrel. KYS is getting upset because he is saying its a common problem, but yet he is the only one HERE experiencing it, and (take this for what its worth) i too have not read any other claims on forums like 300blktalk of supers popping primers and i havent experienced that myself.

i also wonder if KYS didnt get the Remington 220 grain subsonic ammo that had a ton of problems and was recalled by remington back way before the panic? it was a primer problem not being seated correctly. this would be part of why he is seeing this issue.
 
Considering peak chamber pressure occurs when the bullet hits the lands, the gas port or gas system length for that matter never really comes into the equation as far as popped primers is concerned. I agree a smaller port would keep more pressure in the barrel and the can does add some degree of back pressure to the barrel but I've never seen it pop primers with the exception of a way over max load I was trying.

I dont know the industry standards for gas port size or even what the differences are between manufacturers I've just always bought top quality barrels that are known performers.
 
I am Director of R&D at AAC.

I'm not starting up this debate again. It matters only on the platform. A FA with short barrel will generate some serious heat in a few mags. Thats the nature of gas expansion in a SBR with suppressor.
True.

The 300 BO was designed as a SUBSONIC CQB platform. That is straight from Remington/AAC and their military trials.
300 BLK was designed as supersonic and subsonic. I see it as mostly a supersonic platform - the most reliable and powerful way to shoot 30 caliber from an AR15 that uses normal magazines at full capacity. Here is more info:

http://www.300aacblackout.com/resources/300-BLK.pdf

I have the same upper the OP is talking about. With my AAC 762SD-N6 and supersonic ammo it gets considerable more loud and primers will bust. With subsonic it's as reliable as a Glock.
I would avoid 9mm cans for the reason stated - that it will heat up too fast. Stick with 308 cans that are FA-rated. There is no issue with primers though, so you either have bad ammo or you should have the chamber checked.

Let me also state that the reason supersonic will have such a tough time in these shorter barrels (8.5" and 9") is because of the pistol length gas systems they use to cycle the subs. With the can on they get a slight boost in gas movement and it actually helps the cyclic rate.
Take that can off and run supers and you should be ok but reliability will suffer. Put the can on, blown primers will occur.
Pistol length gas on 300 BLK is much like mid-length gas on 5.56mm. This is easy to see just by noting that they both have gas ports of the same size on 16 inch barrels. 300 BLK is not less reliable on a 9 inch barrel with no can. And it is not more likely to blow a primer with the can on. If you do a QuickLoad simulation, you can see that peak chamber pressure occurs with less than one inch of bullet travel.

I said you could see blown primers if you run supersonic ammo + a suppressor on a short barrel that utilizes a pistol length gas system. I have had it happen to me, AAC warns you in the user manual, it's a fact!
We do not warn of this in the user manual, and have not seen it in testing. Your blown primers were most likely the result of over-pressure ammo or an undersized chamber.

Its not an isolated issue when AAC posts a disclaimer about the 9" uppers + 762SD-N6 cans causing the issues. Do you think I would make this up?!
There are no issues with AAC 9 inch uppers and 762-N6 cans. There is no disclaimer. And there is I have never heard of a blown primer that was related to a short barrel with a pistol-length gas and a can either in internal testing or any mention on the internet until you made these posts.
 
I am Director of R&D at AAC.


True.


300 BLK was designed as supersonic and subsonic. I see it as mostly a supersonic platform - the most reliable and powerful way to shoot 30 caliber from an AR15 that uses normal magazines at full capacity. Here is more info:

http://www.300aacblackout.com/resources/300-BLK.pdf

I know about the caliber, thank you for the link. The information obtained when it was developed is what made me invest in the first run of AAC uppers.


I would avoid 9mm cans for the reason stated - that it will heat up too fast. Stick with 308 cans that are FA-rated. There is no issue with primers though, so you either have bad ammo or you should have the chamber checked.

There is an issue with primers. Either we have a bad run of Remington Ammo, the uppers are not assembled properly, or the cans are at fault. And Im talking 12k rounds and 3 uppers, 3 suppressors.

Pistol length gas on 300 BLK is much like mid-length gas on 5.56mm. This is easy to see just by noting that they both have gas ports of the same size on 16 inch barrels. 300 BLK is not less reliable on a 9 inch barrel with no can. And it is not more likely to blow a primer with the can on. If you do a QuickLoad simulation, you can see that peak chamber pressure occurs with less than one inch of bullet travel.


We do not warn of this in the user manual, and have not seen it in testing. Your blown primers were most likely the result of over-pressure ammo or an undersized chamber.

Must have been a combination because I don't see how 3 separate uppers with 3 of the same cans are functioning the same way. When I called into AAC for advise I was told to "not run the supersonic ammo thru the 9" uppers because they can over pressurize due to the short barrel and pistol length gas system". Guess I shouldn't take them for their word when it occurs every time we run supersonic ammo? The 3 of us ordered the suppressors from the same retailer at the exact time. They were the same run. The suppressors are not consecutive serial numbers so I'm lost on that one as it would be really hard to screw up 3 cans and they end up all in the same state let alone the same SOT dealer. Or it could be my ammo, like I said I only have time with factory ammo. Rolling my own never interested me due to having so much factory ammo available at the time it was conceived.


There are no issues with AAC 9 inch uppers and 762-N6 cans. There is no disclaimer. And there is I have never heard of a blown primer that was related to a short barrel with a pistol-length gas and a can either in internal testing or any mention on the internet until you made these posts.

Pretty bold statement when there are clearly some issues with the uppers and the cans have their own issues entirely. Might want to read around on the multiple users complaining of poor fitment to your mounts.....
Your sales staff made the disclaimer on the phone while I was trouble shooting the SBR, as well as my two friends that own the same setups.

There is a first time for everything!

My responses are in blue. I have fired over 6k rounds of subsonic ammo with no issues. Supersonic seems to be the only one giving me issues. I have my upper as well as two friends owning identical uppers and suppressors. We all have different lots of factory ammo. So, this is not an isolated issue. It can only be a combination of things.... as I said earlier, I am not making this up and I only responded to this post on the basis of information that I was given by AAC Staff when I called in to inquire as to why we were blowing primers with supersonic ammo in use. I was TOLD to take the can off when firing supersonic ammo on the 9" AAC Upper. Why would I sit here and make up some wild story?! :confused:
 
maybe AAC barrels have a smaller gas port, which would give the gas and pressure in the barrel less of a chance to travel back though the gas tube. he isnt popping primers because his gun is over gassed through the gas tube. the primer pop would be a combo of small gas port, restrictive can holding higher back pressures inside the barrel. KYS is getting upset because he is saying its a common problem, but yet he is the only one HERE experiencing it, and (take this for what its worth) i too have not read any other claims on forums like 300blktalk of supers popping primers and i havent experienced that myself.

i also wonder if KYS didnt get the Remington 220 grain subsonic ammo that had a ton of problems and was recalled by remington back way before the panic? it was a primer problem not being seated correctly. this would be part of why he is seeing this issue.

I was never aware of any recall...... especially on subsonic. I bought over 12k rounds, Im pretty sure I am down to about 2500 rounds now.

I have no issues with the caliber or my SBR. But its frustrating to be told one thing and then told on the internet Im the only one and am making up some story. This is happening and I have 2 other friends with the same setup. Happens to them as well.
We all ordered our uppers from the same place at the same time.
 
I dont rhink anyone is saying you're lying, as I read it everyone is saying there id a problem with your combination as many people run the same combo with no problems. No need tk take a healthy discussion personal. Im really interested to hear what the problem is. What factory supersonic ammo do you have and do you have any pics of them with the blown primers?
 
Im not calling you liar, calm down. Im simply saying that I've been a member on 300blktalk for a good while now and never read about constant problems with sbrs running supers with a can as well my own experience albeit not with an aac barrel and an sdn6 but a noveske and my phantom. Im very interested in this because I've got a 9" aac barrel on order. Tons of guys do it with factory ammo and no problems so I'm confused as to what is the common denominator here. Is it that the aac barrels have a bigger gas port compared to others? I dont know.

my reloads are hotter than factory ammo by at least 50fps so my reloads would make the problem youre describing worse.

I was on Silencertalk when this caliber broke out. When everyone was nuts over getting it. I got in on the first or second run of AAC 9" uppers. I am not saying you CAN'T do it. I am saying when I have ran supersonic ammo with the suppressor I got some popped primers and poor performance. The question was asked and I replied that I have had some issues with it. Take it with a grain of salt. Silvers can't come on here and say "there has NEVER been an issue with our products" I will call BS on that because I had the issues as well as two of my friends. You simply cannot deny an issue when 3 AAC uppers with 3 suppressor and over 4k rounds of supersonic ammo between 3 people start acting the same.
 
I dont rhink anyone is saying you're lying, as I read it everyone is saying there id a problem with your combination as many people run the same combo with no problems. No need tk take a healthy discussion personal. Im really interested to hear what the problem is. What factory supersonic ammo do you have and do you have any pics of them with the blown primers?

We ran the Remington 300 Blackout 125gr OTM Match Ammo. It was an AMAX style bullet that the box said was doing 2215 fps.

We also tried a few boxes of Remington 115gr CTFB. Advertised at 2280 fps.

We had issues with both types of ammo. Thats when we gave up and went with 220gr OTM Subsonic ammo. It ran fine so we just bought that in bulk after the talk with AAC Staff. If I still have that brass I will take a picture, its been at least 2.5 years since it happened by now.
 
My responses are in blue. I have fired over 6k rounds of subsonic ammo with no issues. Supersonic seems to be the only one giving me issues. I have my upper as well as two friends owning identical uppers and suppressors. We all have different lots of factory ammo. So, this is not an isolated issue. It can only be a combination of things.... as I said earlier, I am not making this up and I only responded to this post on the basis of information that I was given by AAC Staff when I called in to inquire as to why we were blowing primers with supersonic ammo in use. I was TOLD to take the can off when firing supersonic ammo on the 9" AAC Upper. Why would I sit here and make up some wild story?! :confused:

H2 buffer is the correct buffer to use, but the way. It won't effect pressure but it is best for reliability.

We called a meeting of all sales and CS people, and no one remembers having this conversation - nor would it make sense since there is no issue with that. If you think your three uppers are all defective, then AAC would like to pay two-way shipping to check them out for you.

There is an issue with primers. Either we have a bad run of Remington Ammo, the uppers are not assembled properly, or the cans are at fault. And Im talking 12k rounds and 3 uppers, 3 suppressors.

If you have blown primers, it would be the chamber or the ammo. It has nothing to do with cans. What ammo did this happen with exactly? Please tell me the type of ammo (brand the weight).

Must have been a combination because I don't see how 3 separate uppers with 3 of the same cans are functioning the same way. When I called into AAC for advise I was told to "not run the supersonic ammo thru the 9" uppers because they can over pressurize due to the short barrel and pistol length gas system". Guess I shouldn't take them for their word when it occurs every time we run supersonic ammo? The 3 of us ordered the suppressors from the same retailer at the exact time. They were the same run.

It has nothing to do with cans. Was it in the owner's manual that you read this as you said before, or on a customer service call? This is the combination that most of us shoot, and has been tested by AAC, Remington, Federal LE, and two branches of the military with hundreds of thousands of rounds, and that has not eve happened (primer failure from using a can on a 9 inch upper with supersonic ammo).

Pretty bold statement when there are clearly some issues with the uppers and the cans have their own issues entirely. Might want to read around on the multiple users complaining of poor fitment to your mounts.....
Your sales staff made the disclaimer on the phone while I was trouble shooting the SBR, as well as my two friends that own the same setups.

We were talking about if one can use a can on an AAC 9 inch upper for supersonic ammo. The answer is not only yes, but that is what the 762-SDN-6 was designed for. I can't say with certainty what anyone said to you on the phone, but if they did say that, they were incorrect. Again, AAC would be happy to pay shipping to verify that your uppers are ok.
 
We ran the Remington 300 Blackout 125gr OTM Match Ammo. It was an AMAX style bullet that the box said was doing 2215 fps.

We also tried a few boxes of Remington 115gr CTFB. Advertised at 2280 fps.

We had issues with both types of ammo. Thats when we gave up and went with 220gr OTM Subsonic ammo. It ran fine so we just bought that in bulk after the talk with AAC Staff. If I still have that brass I will take a picture, its been at least 2.5 years since it happened by now.

AMAX bullets are plastic tipped. Remington 125 OTM bullets are OTM (not tipped). The only tipped ammo that Remington makes is the AccuTip, which has gold plastic tips.

Clearly you had some primers pop out - that happened. I don't think Remington-manufactured ammo would do that, but if it happened, then it can be investigated. I am just saying that popped-primers would indicate that the ammo was on the hot side and/or the chamber was too tight or headspace too short. If the ammo was on the hot side, then we need to deal with this as an ammo issue. If the chamber was the problem, then AAC would like to inspect the three uppers at their expense. But there is no problem shooting supersonic ammo in an AAC 9 inch upper with a can in place - that is what it is designed for and how many, if not most, people use them.
 
We had issues with both types of ammo. Thats when we gave up and went with 220gr OTM Subsonic ammo. It ran fine so we just bought that in bulk after the talk with AAC Staff. If I still have that brass I will take a picture, its been at least 2.5 years since it happened by now.

So you have not seen the problem in 2.5 years?

Do you know of anyone else who has had these problems since?
 
AMAX bullets are plastic tipped. Remington 125 OTM bullets are OTM (not tipped). The only tipped ammo that Remington makes is the AccuTip, which has gold plastic tips.

Clearly you had some primers pop out - that happened. I don't think Remington-manufactured ammo would do that, but if it happened, then it can be investigated. I am just saying that popped-primers would indicate that the ammo was on the hot side and/or the chamber was too tight or headspace too short. If the ammo was on the hot side, then we need to deal with this as an ammo issue. If the chamber was the problem, then AAC would like to inspect the three uppers at their expense. But there is no problem shooting supersonic ammo in an AAC 9 inch upper with a can in place - that is what it is designed for and how many, if not most, people use them.


The second ammo option for 300 blackout states that it is an AMAX style bullet. This is what we initially tested.

REMINGTON 300 AAC BLACKOUT RIFLE AMMUNITION | Brownells

Our ammo had no red tips....
 
So you have not seen the problem in 2.5 years?

Do you know of anyone else who has had these problems since?


No. The incident happend that long ago maybe less time, Im not sure I even still have the brass that was faulty. I will try and locate it. I usually don't save the brass out of a semi auto.
The three of us all switched to the 220gr OTM subsonic loads from Remington, we stopped having the issues then.

AAC is in contact with me now and I am going to take the necessary steps to get the upper inspected. Thanks.
 
I just tried to be as descriptive as possible and that is what I found..... cant tell you why Brownell's lists it that way.
 
Man my phone was lagging on that last post. Makes me look like an illiterate drunk haha.

The remington 125s are the sierra match king flat base bullets. Theyre a very accurate load for factory stuff and I havent had any problems with the 200ish rounds I've fired and my buddy shot 100 or so out of it before I started reloading. Glad to hear AAC is taking care of you. Im really interested to hear the results from it. Hopefully my barrel gets here Friday or Saturday and I get my eform back so I can test my loads out in the same barrel.
 
Lol @ my thread. There is so much info in here, I greatly appreciate all the debate cause I really wanna know what i'm in for either way.


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But on a serious note I have a few different types of 300 rounds to try out, i'm going to see how they shoot and look for any keyholes before I even consider a can.
 
I'll be running the 8.5" cmmg upper soon as well and I'm interested in what ammo you have had the best luck with
 
I'm running an 8 inch Noveske 1 in 7 twist barrel on my 300 Blk. SBR with the SDN-6 can. With handloaded 220 SMK's @ 1000fps I'm getting 1 inch groups at 100 yds. With 125 gr TNT's (1900 fps) I'm getting about .75 MOA. This rifle has shot everything I've put in it well but always test different loads before putting the can on.
 
I don't know if this is relevant but I have one can. A SAS Arbiter. I use this on 260, 223 and a 10 inch 300 blk. The report on the 300 blk with super sonic loads is much louder than any thing else and it is the least amount of powder. I shoot these vary sparingly.