Ok, a little on the serious side but interesting non the less. It's all bottom line….
Think Again: Mexican Drug Cartels
Think Again: Mexican Drug Cartels
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It's a good read, I agree, very informative.
But what I really wanted was that video of the drug cartel pukes cutting off that dude's head with a chainsaw and then a knife.
Don't worry, folks....What is happening on the Mexican side of the border will soon enough be in your town here in the good ol' USA.
But what I really wanted was that video of the drug cartel pukes cutting off that dude's head with a chainsaw and then a knife.
Don't worry, folks....What is happening on the Mexican side of the border will soon enough be in your town here in the good ol' USA.
Pretty light weight article from FP - zero critical (truthful) analysis.
If we want to talk about Mexico and drugs, we should start with the understanding that the Mexican Government has ALWAYS been a partner to the drug trade in Mexico. (cite: Murder City: Ciudad Juarez and the Global Economy's New Killing Fields: Charles Bowden: Amazon.com: Books
Secondly, we can not have an honest conversation about drugs in the USA coming from Mexico unless we understand that if the US Gov isn't complicit, they are at least aware, and choose to do nothing about it for ulterior motives. For uninformed, start with the stories of 'Freeway Rick' Ross and The Dark Allience - Gary Webb / SJMN Series investigative reporting series from Gary Webb. Also - check into the odd circumstances of Mr. Webb's death.
Think this through - (from the article) Despite enormous casualties, including members of U.S. law enforcement, the turmoil in Mexico does not receive nearly the level of scrutiny or attention from the U.S. government that conflicts in other countries do. During six hours of presidential debate in the 2012 campaign, for example, there was not a single direct mention of Mexico. - gee, this has been going on for DECADES, but when the US Gov tried to run guns into Mexico in order to undermine 2A, we heard A LOT about Mexico and how WE had to help them.
Aside from the component contribution of 'The War on Drugs' to our Econ, it allows for the discreditation (felony convictions, loss of rights, economic servitude) of wide swaths of ordinary people, while the gentry are protected Drug court judge Gisele Pollack enters rehab after court meltdown | Mail Online
There is a method to the madness. Learn to see the 'wizard' behind the curtain. End of the day it is what it is always about - money and control.
If we want to talk about Mexico and drugs, we should start with the understanding that the Mexican Government has ALWAYS been a partner to the drug trade in Mexico. (cite: Murder City: Ciudad Juarez and the Global Economy's New Killing Fields: Charles Bowden: Amazon.com: Books
Secondly, we can not have an honest conversation about drugs in the USA coming from Mexico unless we understand that if the US Gov isn't complicit, they are at least aware, and choose to do nothing about it for ulterior motives. For uninformed, start with the stories of 'Freeway Rick' Ross and The Dark Allience - Gary Webb / SJMN Series investigative reporting series from Gary Webb. Also - check into the odd circumstances of Mr. Webb's death.
Think this through - (from the article) Despite enormous casualties, including members of U.S. law enforcement, the turmoil in Mexico does not receive nearly the level of scrutiny or attention from the U.S. government that conflicts in other countries do. During six hours of presidential debate in the 2012 campaign, for example, there was not a single direct mention of Mexico. - gee, this has been going on for DECADES, but when the US Gov tried to run guns into Mexico in order to undermine 2A, we heard A LOT about Mexico and how WE had to help them.
Aside from the component contribution of 'The War on Drugs' to our Econ, it allows for the discreditation (felony convictions, loss of rights, economic servitude) of wide swaths of ordinary people, while the gentry are protected Drug court judge Gisele Pollack enters rehab after court meltdown | Mail Online
There is a method to the madness. Learn to see the 'wizard' behind the curtain. End of the day it is what it is always about - money and control.
Well said Mike.
This is very interesting, and good for Texas, I'm glad someone is taking steps.
Texas defies feds; we shut the border down ourselves, said Lt. gov. - BizPac Review
Sadly the problem starts with us and our unwavering taste for illegal drugs. We all have a friend or someone in our families who partake regularly. Seriously, if this was a harsher county when the cops see drug runners driving their bronco into a river to evade them they would just light them up. I almost wish that was our policy.
Texas defies feds; we shut the border down ourselves, said Lt. gov. - BizPac Review
Sadly the problem starts with us and our unwavering taste for illegal drugs. We all have a friend or someone in our families who partake regularly. Seriously, if this was a harsher county when the cops see drug runners driving their bronco into a river to evade them they would just light them up. I almost wish that was our policy.
Wow - that article sure starts off with an interesting straw-man argument, which it then attempts to argue against:
"Drugs Aren't a Foreign Policy Problem."
Yeah, 'cause everyone certainly thinks that we haven't been chasing around drug lords in South America since the 1980s, or alternating between encouraging and discouraging opium growth in Afghanistan, or anything like that. Mexico has brought the consequences of mistakes and failures to our own back yard (roosting chickens and what-not), but let's not forget that the US drug policy has caused us to play fuck-fuck games around the world since well before it was considered cool to wear a white sport coat over a pink t-shirt.
Yep, harsher enforcement worked during Prohibition (look at how few people drink nowadays!), and it's worked everywhere it's been tried during the War on Drugs (look at how difficult and expensive it is to get drugs!).
"Drugs Aren't a Foreign Policy Problem."
Yeah, 'cause everyone certainly thinks that we haven't been chasing around drug lords in South America since the 1980s, or alternating between encouraging and discouraging opium growth in Afghanistan, or anything like that. Mexico has brought the consequences of mistakes and failures to our own back yard (roosting chickens and what-not), but let's not forget that the US drug policy has caused us to play fuck-fuck games around the world since well before it was considered cool to wear a white sport coat over a pink t-shirt.
Yep, harsher enforcement worked during Prohibition (look at how few people drink nowadays!), and it's worked everywhere it's been tried during the War on Drugs (look at how difficult and expensive it is to get drugs!).
Our policy was designed to allow us to intervene / meddle in the affairs of other sovereigns. While we're squaring them up on that issue, we'll also line them out on those oil and gas / natural resource / cheap labor / trade matter / foreign loan issue as well.
The 'policy' is merely a reservation to intervene at anytime, for any reason. It requires that a real solution is never achieved.
Mexican drug cartels, a good read
If you are interested in this topic, and in public info available regarding support activities, have a search of the wiki leaks cable intercept documents from a private intel company sending its messages from Mexico last year: A misnamed 'Force Recon' was reportedly spotted there working with Mexican government forces.
If you are interested in this topic, and in public info available regarding support activities, have a search of the wiki leaks cable intercept documents from a private intel company sending its messages from Mexico last year: A misnamed 'Force Recon' was reportedly spotted there working with Mexican government forces.
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Yeah, unfortunately you have a valid point. Curious what would your recommendation be then?
There are a couple of Blackwater guys on this forum who have said they were working in Mexico? But I don't imagine thats what your talking about.
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Borderland Beat American consultants worked closely with SEMAR in OCT12 and assisted in the takedown of Lazca. Also involved in the apprehension of El Chango. Working in MX always sucks but the hours are nice and the pay is good. From what I have heard.
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Not the brightest group....
IGUALA (Mexico) (AFP) - Gunmen stormed a prison in southwestern Mexico on Friday in an attack that left five of the assailants and four inmates dead, officials said.
Six armed men entered the prison in the Guerrero state town of Iguala by posing as public officials before firing at inmates and guards, the state prosecutor's office said in a statement.
The gunmen fooled the guard at the prison entrance by telling him they were delivering an inmate sometime after midnight.
"Once in the prison, the armed group started a confrontation against inmates and later against guards in a security tower," the prosecutor's office said.
Two other people were injured in the attack, according to state police.
The motive behind the attack was not immediately known.
One of the dead inmates was a convicted cocaine dealer, another was a kidnapper and the two others were inprisoned for carrying illegal weapons.
The National Human Rights Commission said in November that violence has increased in Mexico's prisons, the majority of which are controlled by inmates.
IGUALA (Mexico) (AFP) - Gunmen stormed a prison in southwestern Mexico on Friday in an attack that left five of the assailants and four inmates dead, officials said.
Six armed men entered the prison in the Guerrero state town of Iguala by posing as public officials before firing at inmates and guards, the state prosecutor's office said in a statement.
The gunmen fooled the guard at the prison entrance by telling him they were delivering an inmate sometime after midnight.
"Once in the prison, the armed group started a confrontation against inmates and later against guards in a security tower," the prosecutor's office said.
Two other people were injured in the attack, according to state police.
The motive behind the attack was not immediately known.
One of the dead inmates was a convicted cocaine dealer, another was a kidnapper and the two others were inprisoned for carrying illegal weapons.
The National Human Rights Commission said in November that violence has increased in Mexico's prisons, the majority of which are controlled by inmates.
