Another AUSSIE query......

[AICS-LR300/338]

Had some great feedback from the locals so i've got another q?.....

I have a certain "look" i'm going for in building my .300RUM custom (which i'll eventually take out to a .338/300 Edge when i burn out the barrel) and want to get some blueprinting done.

Sooo...., is there anyone here that can make me a "custom" barrel of my own design "look" and do the smithy work here in Oz, or do most smithy's just import "blanks" from O/S and cut/ream etc from those and im stuck with their limited import?

As noted this is going to be my first "build" and as such my exposure to such things has been limited to date.

(LOL, guess i should have just asked...Is there anyone in Oz who can mill/smith a barrel of my own design, or am i reduced to picking "basic" design blanks...haha)

TIA for any/all helpful responses

Regards,
Gypsy

 

[Kruger21]

What's wrong with Maddco barrels???

Made in Qld I'm sure he'll do any profile you like.

I've used them on a lot of my BR rifles and Tac rifles and find them Just as good as any of my Krieger, Bartlein, Lilja, Schneider, Shilen or any other custom barrel I've used

 

[Hennig]

What are you actually talking about with the "look" of your barrel?

 

[dbateman]

What profile do you want ?

What state are you in ?

 

[bogeybrown]

Pardon a "sepo" for being completely ignorant of import restrictions to Oz, but could you get a Bartlein barrel imported? I ask because they're generally willing to build you whatever you want, and are active members here on the Hide.

I wish I could get one to Bali on my next visit; I could meet you there or leave it with some Aussie ex-pat friends of mine for you to pick up or have smuggled back

 

[Hennig]

You can bring in pretty much anything bolt action of a legal length - I have a LRI build en route.

Just have to pay the $$$ to get it over here - talk to Interdiction Logistics or Delta Tactical.

 

[KWilson]

Pardon a "sepo" for being completely ignorant of import restrictions to Oz, but could you get a Bartlein barrel imported? I ask because they're generally willing to build you whatever you want, and are active members here on the Hide.

I wish I could get one to Bali on my next visit; I could meet you there or leave it with some Aussie ex-pat friends of mine for you to pick up or have smuggled back

No issues with getting them imported at all, met a bloke at the range today who was shooting a 6mm BR in and was getting some nice groupings with it. Wait time is the problem we have with a lot of barrel makers in the US, which is not a criticism but just reflects their overall popularity and a lot of people are obviously prepared to wait. Maddco is the pick of the Aussie barrel makers and their wait time is about 4-6 weeks at present, they can do pretty much any profile asked of them too. Truflite in New Zealand is another option with similar wait times.

 

[AICS-LR300/338]

WOW!!!..you guys ARE good (& BIG thanks for the responses)...well for a bit more info to help. Id be looking for a 28" med>heavy barrel (predominately LR target work only, rarely if ever to hunt with), "threaded" to add a brake (not integral or with (magna port?) as well as an end cap when not using the brake, SS and "fluted" with my own design (this is where i think things will fall apart) unlike the usual full length fluting i see everywhere.

Im looking to have sectioned fluting (------ ---- -- ) <<<< sorta like that if you know what i mean with breaks between the length of the flute, then have the Cerakote and Ultraslick(?) treatments done thereafter (i believe these are best done after approx. 100 rounds down the tube).

I had been told of Maddco (even had a chat to them too) and IIRC there is a maker in S.A. (thats Sth Oz not Africa lol) but their sites only appear (when i last looked some time back) to list set profiles, and length, blanks. Exterior barrel designs also limited and no "after market" flute design possible (due to being SS i was told) (at least that was my impression....:dunno).

Im also looking to change out the stock bolt for a spiral/tactical fluted one (but this isn't as important where function is concerned for me and not a deal breaker).

Thanks to all the above for chiming in and trying to "guide/assist" my quest... and hope this extra detail helps with your advice.

Cheers & Thanks
Gypsy

EDIT~~~ Forgot to mention i will chase up the leads provided above & thanks to those individuals who responded with them..

Oh..BTW, i have no issues with "seppo's" lmao (or anyone else for that matter) that can provide useful info to help out. CHEERS

 

[AICS-LR300/338]

What profile do you want ?

What state are you in ?

Sorry here... missed this one while typing.. Im in Victoria.

 

[dbateman]

Like these ?

You should have no trouble doing what you are talking about.

Bolt fluting can be done, you have a couple of good smiths down your way.
I got to run but if no other Aussies chime in I'll add a bit more to this latter.

 

[AICS-LR300/338]

Like these ?
You should have no trouble doing what you are talking about.
Bolt fluting can be done, you have a couple of good smiths down your way.
I got to run but if no other Aussies chime in I'll add a bit more to this latter.

Hehe, pics are always good (thanks). Yeah well, no... not quite like that but you have the idea. (who does those btw?...) Im not looking to have my OEM bolt fluted, thinking i'd get a custom one already done & have both then, jeweled and fluted depending on mood lol(any ideas?....).

Just wondering who you might have been thinking of (smithy wise down this way) and if you had any contacts/links i might use?
I know there are a few around, just a matter if they want to do this sort of work or have the gear to do it.

I would really like to have a hex barrel as well but dont think it would match well to the action i already have on the SPS (would look kinda strange hex>round @ lug), so will settle for second best on that and have the fluting as per all round barrels.

Thanks for the help & your time for posting above. Things are looking up after all, as i was beginning to think i was outta luck with what i want to do.

Cheers
Gypsy

 

[bogeybrown]

If you get stuck with no other option than sourcing from the U.S., Twisted Barrel should be able to do what you want: Twisted Barrel

Or if nothing else, there may be some pics on their site that would help you show a local smith what you're wanting.

 

[AICS-LR300/338]

If you get stuck with no other option than sourcing from the U.S., Twisted Barrel should be able to do what you want: Twisted Barrel

Or if nothing else, there may be some pics on their site that would help you show a local smith what you're wanting.

Thanks also for that, i will have a look there also if i get stuck, Id post a CAD of what im thinking of but im a computer dummy (no CAD, not even used Excel or any of the "Office" pack except for "Word" lol...im a tragic, i know) but from the looks of things it may just be possible to have it done here after all, considering what info the locals are giving me.


I briefly saw a pic of what appeared to be a new Ruger that had a sectioned fluting (ie some fluting from the lug, then a break ((normal barrel) and then more fluting, so if your aware of that model, im after something "similar" but slightly different in that i want 3x sections of fluting (but all different lengths getting progressively shorter to the end) along the barrel with either 5 or 6 around the barrel if that makes sense

Here's hoping anyway....

Cheers
Gypsy

 

[dbateman]

Hehe, pics are always good (thanks). Yeah well, no... not quite like that but you have the idea. (who does those btw?...) Im not looking to have my OEM bolt fluted, thinking i'd get a custom one already done & have both then, jeweled and fluted depending on mood lol(any ideas?....).


Just wondering who you might have been thinking of (smithy wise down this way) and if you had any contacts/links i might use?
I know there are a few around, just a matter if they want to do this sort of work or have the gear to do it.

I would really like to have a hex barrel as well but dont think it would match well to the action i already have on the SPS (would look kinda strange hex>round @ lug), so will settle for second best on that and have the fluting as per all round barrels.

Thanks for the help & your time for posting above. Things are looking up after all, as i was beginning to think i was outta luck with what i want to do.

Cheers
Gypsy

I know what type of fluting you're after and anybody who does fluting should be able to do it for you. Search for interrupted fluting.

Hex barrel where originally that shape due to the manufacturing process, they where machined round after manufacture.
So if you where to go hex you would need a parallel barrel and have it machined if I where to do it I'd start the hex after the chamber area of the barrel and tapper down to the muzzle.
I probably wouldn't go with hex just because I think it may do odd things in long strings of fire, however I am sure if you had a competent machinist do the work and had the barrel relived it would be fine.

For your bolt you should be able to have your factory bolt fluted but you could also import one.

Talk to your smith about it.

As far as smiths go Shane Clancy who is Clancy's Gunsmithing, John Giles he is PESCO, Lee Trengove of Trentech gunsmithing are all good people to deal with and make good rifles I have first hand experience with all the names I've just given you and have no problem recommending them to you or anyone.

There is also Geoff Grenfell of Grenfell Armouring Service, he is in Vic. I have no first hand experience with him or the work he does and can't find a whole lot about the rifles he makes, I have spoken to them and they seem to know whats going on... But like I said no first hand experience with them.

 

[The_FNG]

Shane is in deep shit atm and has lost his licensing, something to do with bikies?? Theres a few blokes on AHN chasing rifles of theirs that he still has. In the hands of the authorities now i believe.

 

[dbateman]

Shane is in deep shit atm and has lost his licensing, something to do with bikies?? Theres a few blokes on AHN chasing rifles of theirs that he still has. In the hands of the authorities now i believe.

I didn't know that, it's probably something to do with all this guilt by association crap they have going on.
If the bastards want to make your life hard you're pretty much screwed even if you didn't do anything wrong.

 

[The_FNG]

Unfortunately, gun owners are seen in the same light as bikies in Australia. The association laws are garbage.

 

[peteyen86]

Shane is in deep shit atm and has lost his licensing, something to do with bikies?? Theres a few blokes on AHN chasing rifles of theirs that he still has. In the hands of the authorities now i believe.

Not suprised to read this. Took me a long, long time to recover my money. Debt collector, fair-trading australia... Nightmare i try to forget about.

 

[Kruger21]

He still owes me $2500 and a barrel I supplied from one of many jobs commissioned at the start of 2010!!! RAGE!!!
kept saying stuff in customs, wasn't in shipment, still at exporters in US..lies lies lies

Police involved now just waiting and waiting, with a little more waiting

 

[peaceatwar]

Check out fluting thread, just search barrel fluting for some flute ideas.

 

[AICS-LR300/338]

I know what type of fluting you're after and anybody who does fluting should be able to do it for you. Search for interrupted fluting.

Hex barrel where originally that shape due to the manufacturing process, they where machined round after manufacture.
So if you where to go hex you would need a parallel barrel and have it machined if I where to do it I'd start the hex after the chamber area of the barrel and tapper down to the muzzle.
I probably wouldn't go with hex just because I think it may do odd things in long strings of fire, however I am sure if you had a competent machinist do the work and had the barrel relived it would be fine.

For your bolt you should be able to have your factory bolt fluted but you could also import one.

Talk to your smith about it.

As far as smiths go Shane Clancy who is Clancy's Gunsmithing, John Giles he is PESCO, Lee Trengove of Trentech gunsmithing are all good people to deal with and make good rifles I have first hand experience with all the names I've just given you and have no problem recommending them to you or anyone.

There is also Geoff Grenfell of Grenfell Armouring Service, he is in Vic. I have no first hand experience with him or the work he does and can't find a whole lot about the rifles he makes, I have spoken to them and they seem to know whats going on... But like I said no first hand experience with them.

G'day again & once more thanks for the info. Im actually near Geoff Grenfell (had heard on the vine he is slowing down/minimising the services he offers???) so may try him again to see if he can help, or at the least refer me to one who can.

Re: Hex/Round barrel.... leaning more towards the round now after a bit more research (and your comments) and think i've got too much visual goin on already (especially for me as a minimalist...) to bother with the hex.

I really appreciate the time you've put into giving me the answers i was looking for and will do a follow up once i get the ball rolling on this project. ($$$ tight on the rock'n'roll atm so it may be a while...)

Thanks also to all others who chimed in to help, it appears to be a good community of guys here (unlike some other forums i visit) and i hope with time i can reciprocate in kind.

Cheers and Regards
Gypsy

 

[AICS-LR300/338]

Check out fluting thread, just search barrel fluting for some flute ideas.

Hi & thanks for the hint, i have done a look prior to posting, i wasn't looking for ideas per se, but for smiths to actually do the work i want done (already know the design i'd like).

^^^^ Not meant to offend, ...just inform/clarify my request.

Cheers