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I haven't seen anyone talk about this, and I want one

I want one too. Should have one coming in as soon as my SBR stuff comes back.

My build is:

Mega Billet Ambi Lower
Mega 9" Keymod upper
8.2" Noveske .300 BO Barrel
Geissele SD-C
NEA CSS Stock
JP Bolt
Larue A-PEG

Right now I'm a bit worried about the clearance between the NEA CCS and the Mega billet lower. I think (but I'm not sure) that the area where the buffer tube threads into the lower is reinforced on the billet lower which may mean the extension on the stock won't clear that section. I know for sure I'm going to have to trim the right side extension if I want the stock to close all the way because the Ambi bolt release will interfere with the extension arms.

My goal is to have a really short suppressed rifle. With a SDN-6 I'm hoping for around 26" collapsed.

From what I've read they can require a little tinkering to get setup, but they seem to be reliable once you find the sweet spot. I've found more good reviews than bad ones.

Only thing that sucks is it's gonna cost a bit of money on top of the list price because they all come from canada afaik.
 
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I'm pretty sure there is a sling attachment point on the stock, but I'm not sure if it's compatible with a single point as I don't know the first thing about single point slings.

The PRS is one of the best precision rifle stocks for semi automatic platforms, and this (to me) is analogous to the PRS but in CQB form where OAL is important. It also includes the buffer assemble and proprietary bolt carrier, which is probably close to $100 in a standard AR. That brings the price for the stock to ~260, which isn't too overboard in my mind, especially considering their volume is probably very small.

Of course that might just be me trying to justify the purchase, but I'll give an update when I get it.
 
no doubt that it's worth it as far as cost of parts go, but the end game of cutting a few inches it seems like a lot. On the flip side i've spent that much at a bar soooooo yeah it's definitely a cool part.
 
Sure it is expensive as a replacement part, but on a build or as a part of a SBR purchase it isn't to bad considering it replaces the following parts, bolt carrier (maybe bolt also) stock, buffer, buffer tube, buffer spring. Having held the "little Joe" it is quite impressive. Very compact. Surely a waste on anything that is not SBR.
 
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2ndamendfan said:
Sure it is expensive as a replacement part, but on a build or as a part of a SBR purchase it isn't to bad considering it replaces the following parts, bolt carrier (maybe bolt also) stock, buffer, buffer tube, buffer spring. Having held the "little Joe" it is quite impressive. Very compact. Surely a waste on anything that is not SBR.
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Agreed
 
Have one. Almost useless in the fully collapsed position unless you are a midget. Im not tall either. By the time you extend it to a useful length you are already at normal fully collapsed length of a ctr or something of the like. Even on an SBR the length savings is useless off the back

I would highly recommend an ACE Ultra light weight Entry Stock over this. I have this also.

There are only Three reasons I bought the CCS

I can't SBR in this state(even being LE, The Powers that be wont sign off on it for personal guns) so saving length out the front was not possible. Had to save it out the back.

My kids use this particular rifle. and the super short length of pull works out great for them. Not so much for my monkey arms.

This state mandates that my rifle be 30" overall. Shortening to 14.5 with pinned FH and the CSS stock gets me ridiculously close to 30" its like 30.1"
 
Also while the spring is just a carbine spring with a few coils cut off....... the bolt carrier is proprietary. If something goes wrong you only have one source. And you'll have to pay customs on the stock and any additional parts should something go wrong.
 
I have seen something similar, if not that exact stock, on some LWRC IC PSDs. I don't think it is one of their regular items, nor is it listed on their site (as parts or part of a build). But, I have seen pics and it does exist somewhere. I always thought it looked too short to be practical.
 
The latching mechanism looks like a copy of the Sage EBR design that they also offer for shotguns.
 
Here's the rifle i was speaking about. couple things to note that i forgot about last time. You lose your buffer retention pin and spring as the tube is not long enough to secure them. You lose the ability to pivot the upper. First you must fully extend the stock then push both pins in or out. The carrier, due to the integral buffer design leaves a portion sticking out the rear of the carrier. So, to install you must sandwich the spring between the upper and lower and carefully jam both halves together then pop your pins in. I believe I have the latest iteration. There are now only two stock positions, all the way closed or all the way open.
 

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It looks cool. Would the Law Tactical folding stock adapter not be a more reasonable choice in this case though? It gets you even shorter, AND doesn't require the use of a proprietary bolt carrier, spring, extension tube, and stock. My question being with the NEA- without a buffer, how do you "tune" the gun, and if the upper is 7.5", what are the chances it won't need SOME tuning?
 
g3ninfinite said:
Here's the rifle i was speaking about. couple things to note that i forgot about last time. You lose your buffer retention pin and spring as the tube is not long enough to secure them. You lose the ability to pivot the upper. First you must fully extend the stock then push both pins in or out. The carrier, due to the integral buffer design leaves a portion sticking out the rear of the carrier. So, to install you must sandwich the spring between the upper and lower and carefully jam both halves together then pop your pins in. I believe I have the latest iteration. There are now only two stock positions, all the way closed or all the way open.
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The other day I pushed a primer and instead of it going low and getting wadded up in the trigger, it went high and got wadded up in the upper. Somehow the BCG over road the buffer detent as well. So I had the BCG wedged into the buffer tube. Needless to say getting the situation unf*cked took some tools and time.

While I'd have to see it all in person to fully understand how it goes together, based on how I understand it from reading the above, I think the only way to fix it if I had this stock would have been a hacksaw. Granted, pushing a primer isn't an every day problem but the whole buffer tube / BCG deal is already a tenuous situation.

I give it style points, it looks cool.
 
This stock will go good with the SERBU Upper when it's released. Should make a VERY compact little SBR.
 
The Law Tac is a nice unit. I have one on an 8" 458 and it works perfectly for that specific set up as the insert that installs in the rear of the carrier increases the carrier weight just enough to increase dwell time and it stows away in my vehicle wonderfully when the stock is folded. With the NEA I am going for a short and light package on a 8.2" 300 BLK. The only negatives to the law tactical adapter is that it adds significant length and weight when the weapon is operational. Doesn't allow the rifle to fire when folded. What I'm concerned about with the NEA though is the carrier/integrated buffer weight being too light and giving me dwell time issues and gas in the face. It looks like it's about the weight of an M16 carrier at 9.7oz but that includes buffer weight. It'll be interesting to see if I can use an SLR GB to tune it and have it run reliably without knowing the spring tension. I'm also worried about the stock's adjustment bars hitting the right side bolt release on an ambi lower when the stock is fully collapsed. Anyone know if it would?
 
Curious if anyone has compared these to the similar designed stocks & buffer systems on the new Troy M7A1s? I'd be very interested in any functional design differences or dimensional variations between the two.
 
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