I know Shooter is pretty popular on this board. How does it compare to other software available. I can't see me being able to spring for a special purpose computer, so how good can you run them on your smart phone. Does everything fit? Room to type input?
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All the above listed will do you right. Ballistic AE and shooter work great from my use.
Good luck
Good luck
Strelok Pro on Android. Run it on my phone and on a 7" Galaxy tablet for matches. Works great if you put in good info. It was like $8 iirc. (Started with free version, then got the $4 paid version, then pro to use G7 BC.)
Starting off I had used Mil Dot with good results. But after going through all the options available on Ballistic AE I switch to it. Probably the biggest plus was being able to log shot targets. Its a great reference library for load development and tracking your progress as a shooter. It also stores environment conditions, along with a note field that you can store scope setting for the distance, or any other info thats important.
I use Ballistic AE and Bullet Flight on my iPhone and iPad. Ballistic AE is truly amazing.
I am also waiting for Bryan Litz's Applied Ballistics to become available for iOS. It appears that will have some extremely novel features.
BR,
I am also waiting for Bryan Litz's Applied Ballistics to become available for iOS. It appears that will have some extremely novel features.
BR,
i have, or have used most out there, the top are
Ballistic AE, Applied Ballistics and Shooter
either is great...
anything else is lacking
Ballistic AE, Applied Ballistics and Shooter
either is great...
anything else is lacking
Strelok fan here. I have the pro version and the cool part (that i just found) is that you can calculate angles through it just by pointing your phone at the target. Otherwise, I have put it to test against shooter and one other program. Its as good as the information you put into it. The other benefit is Igor (the developer) will answer emails like likkity-split. I got the Burris MTAC and the program did not have the G2b reticle. One email later, and it was in the program. I like customer service, and his is top notch.
I recently switched from exbal on a palm to Shooter on a S4 and I like it. Its easy to use and it's good out to 800 so far. My shooting buddy ran strelok with same results.
If you can afford a second hand Nomad with FFS then this would allow you to also have GPS capabilities with and accuracy to within 2 - 5 metres.
If you have a LRF with a compass (for Coriolis) and Kestrel both with BT the corrections are automatically calculated with an algorithm and constant real time corrections are shown.
The above maybe an overkill depending on the calibre, range and targets you plan on shooting
If you have a LRF with a compass (for Coriolis) and Kestrel both with BT the corrections are automatically calculated with an algorithm and constant real time corrections are shown.
The above maybe an overkill depending on the calibre, range and targets you plan on shooting
If you want simply the best hands down, go with ColdBore 1.0, it comes in 3 editions for PC, PDA and Windows Phone. All 3 can sync data. Nothing close, and for sure none of the run of the mill apps. Second option, is FFS, but it will force you to go with a very expensive platform with an already expensive software.
From reading the ColdBore specs page it doesn't offer everything that FFS does such as multiple wind zones and their distances and target speeds to name a few.
I still might be wrong (and please correct me if I am as it would be objective for the OP) as I haven't used Patagonia software yet.
Coldbore has multiple wind zones, absolutely. In fact I recently shot a local match and used the wind calls in ColdBore almost exclusively as I found its wind to be the best. Elevation is pretty close with almost all of these programs. All things equal they are usually within a .1 of each other if you set them up right. But the wind varies, they all don't call it the same. I find CB 1 to be spot on for me.
For the money it is more robust in features but harder for many to navigate. The only exception to that is the Windows Phone version. It's really a great addition to ColdBore. With CB 1 you can build profiles on your Desktop and slide them over to the PDA or Phone. As well you can build a profile in the field and then make it part of your Desktop Tracks / Library.
But Coldbore is very robust and if something else has it, odds are, ColdBore does too. My other suggestion, read the manual, and take the time to learn it, as it's not as easy as open up an APP as many of the other solutions out there.
For the money it is more robust in features but harder for many to navigate. The only exception to that is the Windows Phone version. It's really a great addition to ColdBore. With CB 1 you can build profiles on your Desktop and slide them over to the PDA or Phone. As well you can build a profile in the field and then make it part of your Desktop Tracks / Library.
But Coldbore is very robust and if something else has it, odds are, ColdBore does too. My other suggestion, read the manual, and take the time to learn it, as it's not as easy as open up an APP as many of the other solutions out there.
Aussie, what Lowlight said, I concur fully.
There is nothing that FFS does that Coldbore does not. If you check their websie Multiple Wind Zones are there, as well as very robus GPS/Targets module with anything you can think of.
The new version for Windows Phone is simply outstanding and packs the same feature set of the PDA version plus some more like true Mapping capabilites that FFS cannot offer. I have no issue at all to easily navigate the software in either version. Follow Lowlight advice and read the manual in depth. There are so many features that a throught read is a must.
A recent ELR test made by some guys on other forum, proved what most of us already know. It's hands down the most accurate solution out there and packed it is. Going with a very expensive PDA these days is something I'd not reccomend since Windows Mobile is certainly dead for good. For the money alone, Coldbore is a bargain compared to FFS or any app out there.
For the price of $150.00 I don't think you can go wrong after further researching the program.
I'm pretty sure you can't use normal google maps out side of mobile coverage but this can be fixed with preloaded maps from TwoNav.
Also I believe HandHeld are coming out with a ruggedised mobile phone which would make the hardware more reliable in the harsher environments.
I like that you can specify the ellipsoid in the software aswell.
I would love to do a product comparison between the two. I don't believe the algorithms would be that different (again I could be wrong).
I'm pretty sure you can't use normal google maps out side of mobile coverage but this can be fixed with preloaded maps from TwoNav.
Also I believe HandHeld are coming out with a ruggedised mobile phone which would make the hardware more reliable in the harsher environments.
I like that you can specify the ellipsoid in the software aswell.
I would love to do a product comparison between the two. I don't believe the algorithms would be that different (again I could be wrong).
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My Windows Phone is not active, I have no SIM card in it. Works perfect. I connect to the skydive to move data via wifi.
If you want GPS which in your case is not necessary, use a PDA like a Nomad with it built in. Then it works with Coldbore.
GPS is a nice to have feature but barely used in most shooting applications to include hunting. Simply range the target and dial the solution given for the distance.
Plus no iPhone programs ports to use anything BT but audio. No App for an iPhone connects to any external device. Period. Apple protocols prevent it. No kestrel, nothing. Only Android phones or Windows.
The GPS works best if the targets are pre-plotted, then you get a range to these from where you are standing. But requires you to plot the waypoints first. It's also less precise than a laser as not all GPS is perfect.
You have options that is the point. It works with multiple devices.
If you want GPS which in your case is not necessary, use a PDA like a Nomad with it built in. Then it works with Coldbore.
GPS is a nice to have feature but barely used in most shooting applications to include hunting. Simply range the target and dial the solution given for the distance.
Plus no iPhone programs ports to use anything BT but audio. No App for an iPhone connects to any external device. Period. Apple protocols prevent it. No kestrel, nothing. Only Android phones or Windows.
The GPS works best if the targets are pre-plotted, then you get a range to these from where you are standing. But requires you to plot the waypoints first. It's also less precise than a laser as not all GPS is perfect.
You have options that is the point. It works with multiple devices.
I agree.
Their are some limitations but like you said most of the extra components aren't required for most shooting and for the price of the software you get more bang for your buck.
I over looked the OPs original query specifying that non purchase of a PDA.
It's kind of hard to scroll up and down the screen with a smart phone.
Their are some limitations but like you said most of the extra components aren't required for most shooting and for the price of the software you get more bang for your buck.
I over looked the OPs original query specifying that non purchase of a PDA.
It's kind of hard to scroll up and down the screen with a smart phone.
