I have a Barrett M82CQ(20" barrel) and I absolutely love the gun. However it's just to much of a pig for my needs. I'm in the process of downsizing my whole gun collection and would like to also downsize my 50 BMG. Now obviously DTA are the kings of downsize. I love the SRS, and can't wait to get the MDR(still trying to get a response from them about my order for one). So naturally the HTI seems like a good choice, but they only offer it in 29" barrels which would make the gun longer then my current M82CQ. So I guess my question is how hard would it be to turn the DTA HTI into a 20". Judging by the size on their website the overall length would go from about 45" to 36" and I'm guessing 9" of 50 BMG barrels weighs at least 5 pounds. All in all I could have a 50BMG rifle the size of a AR-15 and it would only weigh 15lbs how could I not love it. So guys could I make this happen?
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Yes, and it's also 10 pounds lighter which is the bigger issue for me. Unfortunately I just can't justify getting rid of the Semi-Auto fun the M82 offers unless it's for something dramatic. Plus I really see no reason for the extra 9"s of barrel for what I do with it.
Enjoy increased recoil due to the the lighter weight and it being bolt action vs SemiAuto. Also the felt concussion will be increased due to the muzzle being closer to your face. Oh, and only 5-6 rounds vs 10
60 rounds in one sitting through a DTA HTI will be punishing, to put it mildly...
Check this 50 out it looks like it has fianally come to the production stage, sounds more of what you are looking for.
MICOR Leader 50 BMG Semi Auto Gas Operated Bullup Gun 50 BMG Weapons
MICOR Leader 50 BMG Semi Auto Gas Operated Bullup Gun 50 BMG Weapons
Yea, I was kind of afraid that might be the case. Honestly 30 rounds of .338 lapua from my 110ba were punishing, but for whatever reason I can shoot the barrett all day. I wish there was some way I could check out the HTI in person before I made my decision.
That looks interesting, and definitely exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for. However I've never heard of the company, and to be brutally honest the fit and finish on that gun looks aweful. Maybe in a few years once they've proved themselves and redesign the gun to make it look like it wasn't fabricated in a garage I will buy one. But to demand $10,000 for a gun like that they have to be out of their minds. It would have to cost half that for me to even consider it as it sits now.
My .260 DTA SRS with optic and Bipod is almost 15.5, so I suspect your weight estimates are off a bit.
The standard .50BMG HTI barrel is 29" and while they don't make any short barrels, they potentially could do a one-off 20" for you. If not, you could theoretically buy an HTI chassis, then order a .50BMG bolt, magazine and HTI barrel extension. Then take that to a competent gunsmith and have them spin you a 20" .50BMG barrel. That's what many of us have done with our SRS rifles to get non-standard configurations. The one potential limit will be the HTI handguard. I suspect that 20" will be slightly inside, in which case you could have the smith trim the handguard (ouch) or just go with a 22" barrel. Perhaps they'll come out with an HTI Covert handguard some day? Either way, that would literally be a blast to shoot.
I was trying to find how long the handguard is on the HTI because I too realized the 20" might be just a little to short for it. I definitely don't think I would feel comfortable cutting up the $5,000 chassis for a few inches of barrel.
Maybe I'll just wait and see what they think up next at DTA. Who knows we could have a world changeling Bullpup Semi-Auto 50bmg around the corner. Although if I could get DTA to make a one off 22" barrel I would certainly go that route.
I've got one down in the shop I can measure tomorrow and see just how short the barrel can be. I fired the gun and was shocked at how bad the recoil is with the standard brake. I shoot a lot of .50 cal in my WWII British Boys anti-tank rifle and its a pussycat. I've fired McMillans and Serbu's and AR50's and none of them have the smack the HTI does. I'm a little surprised at how bad it is and how small the brake is. I'm guessing that shortening the barrel will help the brake a little since the velocity will go down and gas pressure go up. I'm building a suppressor for my buddies gun and hopefully it will knock some of the recoil down. Compared to my .338LM DT SRS it is a surprise. DT got the brake down pretty well on the SRS so I don't understand what happened with the HTI.....maybe I'm just a sissy. . .
Frank
Frank
I would really appreciate it if you would do measure it for me. It's not exactly the type of gun you can go and check out at your local gun shop. I'm trying to find some actual ft/lbs or recoil for that HTI and the M82 so I know just how bad the HTI is.
His experience with the HTIs recoil mirrors mine, it's very unplaesant vs other bolt-action 50's and even more so when compared to the M82.
Sure you can carry the DTA all day with little issue but 10 to 1 you will lose all enjoyment in actually shooting the big .50. I shot 8 rounds before fatigue started to set in due to the extra concentration required for the increased recoil and concusion, and by the 11th round I had enough.
My .02, buy a Biathalon sling and it'll make carrying your M82 far more pleasant.
I also have the M82CQ and love it and no way would I change for a bolt 50. My best friend has the Barrett M99 and I have shot it twice and first time it literally knocked a filling loose lol. The recoils is 5x worse that the M82. When we go to the range he begs me to shoot it and I am like hell to the no. I couldn't even imagine a lighter bolt action like the DTA. No thanks.
Thanks for all your help guys especially AEROmechanic. After hearing everyone's thoughts on the recoil I think I'm definitely just going to stick with my M82CQ I truly do love the gun. I've been looking for a good sling but couldn't find anything for a gun like that, but now thanks to AEROmechanic I just ordered the Biathlon Elite Sling, and I think that should fix my issues with the weight.
looks like the distance from the rear of the barrel extension to the front of the handguard is 23.5" so you would probably want to add a half inch to make sure any suppressors or other accessories clear. Thats a good 24" barrel on a fifty or 375 for the HTI.
Hope that helps
Frank
Hope that helps
Frank
No problem dude, good luck!
Um Erika seemed to handle the HTI .50 BMG ok, and she looks like she weighs about 120LBS.
DESERT TACTICAL HTI .50BMG - Range Time with Cory & Erika - YouTube
DESERT TACTICAL HTI .50BMG - Range Time with Cory & Erika - YouTube
Dude did you even watch the video you posted? It was kicking the shit out of her..
Further no one said it couldnt be handled, its just that it kicks you harder than other bolt-action 50s and a helluva lot more than the m82, also due to the muzzle being closer to your face makes the concusion that much more unpleasant.
I meant no offense, I just wanted to share the video as I think she's hot.
I was really considering the HTI .50 but the consensus seems to be that it kicks like a mule. I would like to hear as many opinions as possible and if anyone lives in the Phoenix Arizona area and has one I will pay for gas ammo and beer afterword if you will let me shoot it. Thanks.
Op don't mean to hijack.
I was really considering the HTI .50 but the consensus seems to be that it kicks like a mule. I would like to hear as many opinions as possible and if anyone lives in the Phoenix Arizona area and has one I will pay for gas ammo and beer afterword if you will let me shoot it. Thanks.
Op don't mean to hijack.
I don't think there is a single man portable .50 bmg system out there that doesn't push the shooter around a bit. You can reduce the recoil quite a bit with a muzzle break, but they don't take it all. The act of accelerating a 600+ grain projectile to the speeds it attains from a .50bmg is going to generate quite a bit of recoil on it's own. The question is whether the recoil is going to be a push, a shove, or a downright punch.
Here's a video of me shooting a Mcmillan Tac .50. 750gr turned solids. This was one of the softer .50's i've fired.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151905207208428&l=8313255745400887110
Here's a video of me shooting a Mcmillan Tac .50. 750gr turned solids. This was one of the softer .50's i've fired.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151905207208428&l=8313255745400887110
